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[k-four-nine]

This video is not accurate. S4 is 'very much' faster, the S4 tested in the video is in a very bad software health.

HaHa! Well, yes & no...
The S4 software isn't in a bad shape. It's actually running a TON of Samsung's bloatware in the background that comes pre-installed on all Samsung Smartphones...! Not to mention TouchWiz, which is basically Samsung's proprietory theme (or 'layer') over the actual Android OS and eats up a TON of system resources and battery. TW makes there phones unique and kind of cool, but also slower and power hungry!
Whereas AndroidOne (or any Google Nexus and also some Motorola Models) run on COMPLETELY ORIGINAL version of Android. And hence, The Hot 2 in the video clip is so ZIPPY and LIGHTNING FAST! In other words, It's like an I-Phone of Android Smartphones...! It has ZERO PRE-INSTALLED GARBAGE, just like an Iphone...!

[Dragoon]

Android one tread mark can be seen easily at back and it will get marshmallow update yes i agree its crazy fast [emoji14]

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I remember that image, my cousin's friend shared that on Facebook. He said that this is going to get launched in Africa first then after a long time here.

I asked Infinix on Facebook and they confirmed it isn't Android One
Also the product images prove it.

But because it is almost stock, hopefully it will receive fast updates just like other Infinix phones.

[hasooboy]

I remember that image, my cousin's friend shared that on Facebook. He said that this is going to get launched in Africa first then after a long time here.

I asked Infinix on Facebook and they confirmed it isn't Android One
Also the product images prove it.

But because it is almost stock, hopefully it will receive fast updates just like other Infinix phones.

Hot 2 is a android one device there is a logo of android one at the back and i have one in my possession, i took that pic. Facebook page must be own by some non technical persons who only knows it has laaalipop [emoji14]

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[hasooboy]

Android one logo on the box too

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[s15]

I remember that image, my cousin's friend shared that on Facebook. He said that this is going to get launched in Africa first then after a long time here.

I asked Infinix on Facebook and they confirmed it isn't Android One
Also the product images prove it.

But because it is almost stock, hopefully it will receive fast updates just like other Infinix phones.

Infinix Facebook official page. Ask them, not a non official Facebook page [emoji14].

https://www.facebook.com/InfinixPakistan/

[Dragoon]

This video is not accurate. S4 is 'very much' faster, the S4 tested in the video is in a very bad software health.

Antutu benchmark scores are ~29000 on S4, and ~20000 on Hot2. Hot2 has just an average MediaTek 6580 chip.

You can compare Infinix Hot 2 to Galaxy Core Prime or Galaxy Grand Prime, both scoring ~21500 on Antutu, but Infinix Hot2 will be faster than these Samsungs, because Hot2 has 2GB ram and 16 GB storage. Other than speed and storage, it is not better than any of these.

Some mediatek phones are also really good.
For example I have the Lenovo vibe x2 with me which comes with an octa-core media tek 6595. The benchmarks are just say better than anything launched last year. And the phone itself costs just 30k here. Here's the benchmarks I just ran:

And here's an older one showing devices that are below it:

For comparison here's the LG G3 which has a Qualcomm processor:

And my Honor 4C:

S4 was sold a while back so deleted all the screenshots but it was around the 25k mark.

Benchmarks just show the raw power of the processor and ram, it doesn't tell the everyday perofmrance of it. In everyday performance, the Vibe X2 and Honor 4C leaves both the S4 and G3 behind

TouchWiz is the worst thing to happen to Samsung. It's improved in the S6/S6e/Note 5 but still not great.

[Dragoon]

Hot 2 is a android one device there is a logo of android one at the back and i have one in my possession, i took that pic. Facebook page must be own by some non technical persons who only knows it has laaalipop [emoji14]

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Infinix Facebook official page. Ask them, not a non official Facebook page [emoji14].

https://www.facebook.com/InfinixPakistan/

Sent a message to the official page too.
I guess we'll have to wait until someone on PakWheels buy one and confirm
I would buy it, but the Hot 2 is a downgrade over the Honor 4C that's why I am relcutant and I don't want to sell it.

[k-four-nine]

I think Infinix should've launched The AndroidOne with Hot Note 2's specs, like 5.5" HD Display & Octa Core processor. A 2GB RAM would've suited an Octacore Processor much better than a mere Quadcore... And keep in mind another thing, upcoming Android Versions will be so HEAVY that Quadcore processors won't be able to run them smoothly! Just like how single & dual core CPUs can't run anything newer than Android 2.3 Gingerbread! IMHO, Octacore CPUs will be the new standard...

[hasooboy]

I think Infinix should've launched The AndroidOne with Hot Note 2's specs, like 5.5" HD Display & Octa Core processor. A 2GB RAM would've suited an Octacore Processor much better than a mere Quadcore... And keep in mind another thing, upcoming Android Versions will be so HEAVY that Quadcore processors won't be able to run them smoothly! Just like how single & dual core CPUs can't run anything newer than Android 2.3 Gingerbread! IMHO, Octacore CPUs will be the new standard...

Performance didn't directly proportional to the cores a quad core can be more power full than octa core hexa core

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[s15]

HaHa! Well, yes & no...
The S4 software isn't in a bad shape. It's actually running a TON of Samsung's bloatware in the background that comes pre-installed on all Samsung Smartphones...! Not to mention TouchWiz, which is basically Samsung's proprietory theme (or 'layer') over the actual Android OS and eats up a TON of system resources and battery. TW makes there phones unique and kind of cool, but also slower and power hungry!
Whereas AndroidOne (or any Google Nexus and also some Motorola Models) run on COMPLETELY ORIGINAL version of Android. And hence, The Hot 2 in the video clip is so ZIPPY and LIGHTNING FAST! In other words, It's like an I-Phone of Android Smartphones...! It has ZERO PRE-INSTALLED GARBAGE, just like an Iphone...!

Some mediatek phones are also really good.
For example I have the Lenovo vibe x2 with me which comes with an octa-core media tek 6595. The benchmarks are just say better than anything launched last year. And the phone itself costs just 30k here. Here's the benchmarks I just ran:

And here's an older one showing devices that are below it:

For comparison here's the LG G3 which has a Qualcomm processor:

And my Honor 4C:

S4 was sold a while back so deleted all the screenshots but it was around the 25k mark.

Benchmarks just show the raw power of the processor and ram, it doesn't tell the everyday perofmrance of it. In everyday performance, the Vibe X2 and Honor 4C leaves both the S4 and G3 behind

TouchWiz is the worst thing to happen to Samsung. It's improved in the S6/S6e/Note 5 but still not great.

Agreed, TouchWiz is a living hell! (especially for those who cannot handle it)

TouchWiz = Samsung UI + Samsung Apps (bloatware)

Samsung Apps, most of the times are the culprit of lags, freezes, battery drains etc. So they should all be disabled as soon as one sees them! Good Riddance Bloatware!. Now, 50% of TouchWiz is dealt with.

TouchWiz UI, especially the Lollipop version is the worst UI. One of the biggest reasons is, its extremely poor optimization for Super Amoled displays. Most of us know that Super Amoled displays consume significantly less power on darker backgrounds, even then TouchWiz decided to keep the backgrounds 'pure white', which significantly increases power consumption. One of the reasons why Kitkat to Lollipop update worsens battery timings!

So stock TouchWiz = TouchWiz UI (white backgrounds causing significant power drain) + Samsung Apps (causing freezing, lags and significant power drain)

So stock TouchWiz = A living hell! (especially for those who cannot handle it).

[s15]

Some mediatek phones are also really good.
For example I have the Lenovo vibe x2 with me which comes with an octa-core media tek 6595. The benchmarks are just say better than anything launched last year. And the phone itself costs just 30k here. Here's the benchmarks I just ran:

And here's an older one showing devices that are below it:

For comparison here's the LG G3 which has a Qualcomm processor:

And my Honor 4C:

S4 was sold a while back so deleted all the screenshots but it was around the 25k mark.

Benchmarks just show the raw power of the processor and ram, it doesn't tell the everyday perofmrance of it. In everyday performance, the Vibe X2 and Honor 4C leaves both the S4 and G3 behind

TouchWiz is the worst thing to happen to Samsung. It's improved in the S6/S6e/Note 5 but still not great.

For benchmarks, what you said is 100% true. Benchmark is just like a Dyno run in an artificial world, real life usage varies a lot. Here is the quick example.

Three Snapdragon 410 phones, all scoring equally ~21500 on Antutu Benchmark, Grand prime (1GB ram), Galaxy J5 (1.5GB ram), Galaxy E7 (2GB ram), but their real life usage varies A LOT, because of different ram capacities and other factors. The one with higher ram capacity can handle more apps without lags.

Most of the MediaTeks are very impressive, the Lenovo result you posted actually crossed S5 by 10,000 scores. The MediaTek 6592 octa core used in Infinix Zero 2 scores ~33500, so you can see how perfectly it performs with Snapdragon 800 series on benchmark, though Snapdragon is better due to various other factors. S4 (I9505) ~26000 and S4 (I9500) ~29000. S5 ~37000.

Do not change 4C, Honor 4C is an excellent device, and their very own Hisilicon Kirin 620 performance is no doubt much more than its score, even better than Zero2. Its battery timings are very good, ~5+ hours screen on time, but still most people spread false rumours about its battery life, hanging problems and blah blah.

LG G3 and G4 is all downhill, G2 was best!.

Benchmark results vary, even with different Antutu versions 4 and 5.

[hussey08]

I think Infinix should've launched The AndroidOne with Hot Note 2's specs, like 5.5" HD Display & Octa Core processor. A 2GB RAM would've suited an Octacore Processor much better than a mere Quadcore... And keep in mind another thing, upcoming Android Versions will be so HEAVY that Quadcore processors won't be able to run them smoothly! Just like how single & dual core CPUs can't run anything newer than Android 2.3 Gingerbread! IMHO, Octacore CPUs will be the new standard...

You sir are ignorant as hell!

[akdon47]

I'm looking forward to get a Samsung Note 4. I need suggestions on which version to get? I plan to root it in future so kindly suggest me the version which has more development support.

Regards.

[ihpwf12]

I'm looking forward to get a Samsung Note 4. I need suggestions on which version to get? I plan to root it in future so kindly suggest me the version which has more development support.

Regards.

There are 2 main versions you should look for:

SM-N910C (Exynos)
SM-N910F (Snapdragon)

Both have good dev support.

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[k-four-nine]

You sir are ignorant as hell!

Ignorant? Lets not jump into conclusions just yet...
There's a good reason behind why most Mediatek and Qualcomm's SOC's are now coming with atleast a hexa-core. In fact, Mediatek just recently released a DECA CORE processor, which has 10 CORES... So, are they ignorat too???
Now one might say: Iphones are still running on Dual Cores! True, Apple's stuck with Dual Core for several years now... But its because The iOS aka iPhone OS is optimised for just 2 cores... Whereas Google can't optimise its Android as precisely as Apple because there're just so awful variations between handsets and their SOC's...! Same goes to Windows Phones, though at a much smaller extent...
Besides, inventing a totally new CPU Core with faster Bus Speed, more Cache & twice the Bit Rate is more EXPENSIVE than just 'slapping' few extra cores on an existing model!
R&D has its limits...

[crossfirex]

Xiaomi Redmi Note 2?? Are its accessories available here

[hussey08]

Ignorant? Lets not jump into conclusions just yet...
There's a good reason behind why most Mediatek and Qualcomm's SOC's are now coming with atleast a hexa-core. In fact, Mediatek just recently released a DECA CORE processor, which has 10 CORES... So, are they ignorat too???
Now one might say: Iphones are still running on Dual Cores! True, Apple's stuck with Dual Core for several years now... But its because The iOS aka iPhone OS is optimised for just 2 cores... Whereas Google can't optimise its Android as precisely as Apple because there're just so awful variations between handsets and their SOC's...! Same goes to Windows Phones, though at a much smaller extent...
Besides, inventing a totally new CPU Core with faster Bus Speed, more Cache & twice the Bit Rate is more EXPENSIVE than just 'slapping' few extra cores on an existing model!
R&D has its limits...

First of all there is absolutely no proof that Android will get "heavy" with time. I do realize that new features etc will be introduced which may be more demanding(of the chipaet) but Google isn't dumb. Remember when Kitkat was launched. Google admitted that Android was getting a bit power hungry and therefore they optimized it so that i tran smoothly even on basic smartphones with dual core processors etc. Google realizes the fact that a lot of Android powered smartphones out there are entry to mid range smartphones or in other terms affordable smartphones with basic specs etc. If they add new features which in turn result in sluggish performance on entry tier smartphones then a lot of people might ditch Android which is something they definitely wouldn't want to happen. Rest assured, atleast in the near future Android wont become extremely power hungry (not talking about third party apps).

As for the processor thing. Android 5.0, 5.1 (even 6.0 will run smoothly; though i havent tried it yet) still runs buttery smooth on phones with the Snapdragon 400. A normal person who uses his phone for Fb, Whatsapp, browsing the web, listening to songs, watching movies etc wont ever feel his phone to be underpowered or sluggish( if its not poorly optimized by the OEM).The reason companies have now started producing octa-core, deca-core etc processors is because of the competition in the market. Samsung, Qualcomm, Apple, Intel, Huawei, are all in competing in this segment. Even LG now has started making/designing its own chipsets. With such stiff competition in the sector companies have to come up with something new amd more powerful. Besides those chips are made for flagship powered smartphones which have QHD displays, 4K video capture and other demanding features. I hope now you understand why octa-core and deca-core chips are put into production. They arent put into production becuase Android is getting power hungry!

[k-four-nine]

@hussey08
Well, fair enough... But people once said the very same thing about Quad Cores! Cause back then, single core CPUs were more than suffice...
Anyhow, I can't prove my statement... Or rather... My 'theory' at the moment, as only the time can prove it. I might be wrong though, who knows? Android might go on a 'diet' in future versions, LOL! But IMHO, it sounds highly unlikely...
Besides, even the upcoming iPhone 7 is rumoured to feature a Quad Core CPU or atleast a higher clock speed (Ghz) as its A8 Dual Core System-on-Chip (SoC) is almost at its limit with iOS 9...!
Brother, Its no mystery that Operating Systems tend to get 'beefier' over time... Be it a desktop OS or a Mobile OS... Look-up MS Windows progress from Windows 95 all the way to Windows 10! Its isn't seem to be getting any lighter!!!
But... FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE...!!!

[vagabondpiper]

Infinix Zero 2 battery timings on custom rom EMUI 3
Wifi 80% 3G 20 %
Plugged in at 7%

[zuhaibafzal]

Infinix Zero 2 battery timings on custom rom EMUI 3
Wifi 80% 3G 20 %
Plugged in at 7%

Bro, can you post some screenshots of your cell phone? It might help me to decide about this phone.