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[s15]

Yes, this is what people need to know. Not all Android phones receive updates at the same time. If someone wants fast updates, he should go for a Nexus phone.
I've got some friends who ask me when their Samsungs, Qmobiles or Huawei etc are receiving Marshmallow when they are still running Jellybean ._.

It's really hard to explain this stuff to someone then and they end up blaming Android for it.

Exactly, very well said.

Its always best to know precisely (in advance) what a person wants most from a smartphone, and then choose accordingly. It applies to almost everything. Many people do not follow that and regret later.

Even some people in this thread ask for recommendations, without telling their precise requirements or usage patterns, which is why they fail to get good recommendations.

They should also know that a 'best' phone is NOT most probably a flagship phone, but any phone that meets most of their requirements.

Btw, @sha2eb was the only one to achieve an A* grade here, as he precisely mentioned his requirements, usage patterns and his current phone model while asking for recommendations [emoji4].

[humayun.chughtai.7]

Could anybody tell me, what is the reasonable price of Note 4 & LG G4 in good condition nowadays in market ???
I want to buy a cell phone ! And my choice is between the above both sets !

[altisdualvvti]

Can any one tell me that does infinix hot 2 does have GPS or not as its great disappointment to see that this feature is not mention in daraz.pk (maybe daraz mistake or may be I m right)

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[s15]

Can any one tell me that does infinix hot 2 does have GPS or not as its great disappointment to see that this feature is not mention in daraz.pk (maybe daraz mistake or may be I m right)

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Infinix Hot2 is confusing, better not invest in it, unless you know what you are actually getting!.

Looking for GPS, their Egyptian retailer site says one thing about Hot2, official specs say something else, Daraz.pk says something else, Facebook page of Infinix Pakistan says something else. It seems as they actually don't know what they put inside Hot2.

Infinix Pakistan Facebook page and Daraz.pk does not specify that its the Android One version at any place, whether specs or photos (logo). So I believe Pakistani version is not Android One. But I cannot confirm.

I even messaged them on Facebook about Android One and received no reply, even after 6 days!

P.S, to me, it is just another Qmobile like brand.

https://www.jumia.com.eg/catalog/?q=X510&baseUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jumia.com.eg

https://www.facebook.com/InfinixPakistan/

Only 300,000+ likes on their Global Facebook page, indicating no Global recognition.

https://www.facebook.com/InfinixMobile

[k-four-nine]

Can any one tell me that does infinix hot 2 does have GPS or not as its great disappointment to see that this feature is not mention in daraz.pk (maybe daraz mistake or may be I m right)

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Yes, @s15 is right. Its specs seems to be quite mysterious!
Some says it has Magnetic Compass, some says it lacks. Keep in mind that a compass is extremely useful while navigating maps.
Same can be said about its display. Some says its IPS, some says its just a regular LCD!
Here its listed as having an IPS Display:
Infinix Hot 2 X510 Review: Everything you need to know
Whereas in this article, the reviewer is grumpy about not having an IPS Display:
Budget Nexus Redefined: Infinix Hot 2 Review - Mobility Arena
Brother, You're better-off with Qmobile's A1. Although it lacks a 5" Display with HD and 2GB RAM, but atleast you know what you're getting... Secondly, you can claim the warranty locally. In case of Infinix, I think you'll have to ship it back to Daraz.pk and then they'll further ship it to AFRICA! LOLz!
I was so interested in Hot 2, not anyone...
I'm not sure, but I think that Pakwheel user @hasooboy has (or had) a Hot 2 as I spotted an ad on olx by his name... It might be from someone else though...

[k-four-nine]

Can any one tell me that does infinix hot 2 does have GPS or not as its great disappointment to see that this feature is not mention in daraz.pk (maybe daraz mistake or may be I m right)

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Yes, @s15 is right. Its specs seems to be quite mysterious!
Some says it has Magnetic Compass, some says it lacks. Keep in mind that a compass is extremely useful while navigating maps.
Same can be said about its display. Some says its IPS, some says its just a regular LCD!
Here its listed as having an IPS Display:
Infinix Hot 2 X510 Review: Everything you need to know
Whereas in this article, the reviewer is grumpy about not having an IPS Display:
Budget Nexus Redefined: Infinix Hot 2 Review - Mobility Arena
Brother, You're better-off with Qmobile's A1. Although it lacks a 5" Display with HD and 2GB RAM, but atleast you know what you're getting... Secondly, you can claim the warranty locally. In case of Infinix, I think you'll have to ship it back to Daraz.pk and then they'll further ship it to AFRICA! LOLz!
I was so interested in Hot 2, not anyone...
I'm not sure, but I think that Pakwheel user @hasooboy has (or had) a Hot 2 as I spotted an ad on olx by his name... It might be from someone else though...

[k-four-nine]

That's true. And they still are updating their older devices such the 4S, unlike Nexus phones. It's a fact, no one can match the update frequency and support of Apple.

Well, yes & no. Surely old iPhones do get updated to latest iOS for upto 3 years or so, but they don't support all the features new OS has to offer and sometimes suffer from performance issues...
Apple 4S did get the latest iOS 9 update, but there's a LONG list of iOS 9 features that it doesn't support! Google will provide more insight...
Whereas Nexus 4 runs on Lollipop just as well as it ran on Kitkat & Jelly Bean! BTW, thats THREE major OS updates for Nexus 4...! Which is Compareable to iPhone 4S and actually BETTER when you consider the functionality & performance factor!

[ihpwf12]

Well, yes & no. Surely old iPhones do get updated to latest iOS for upto 3 years or so, but they don't support all the features new OS has to offer and sometimes suffer from performance issues...
Apple 4S did get the latest iOS 9 update, but there's a LONG list of iOS 9 features that it doesn't support! Google will provide more insight...
Whereas Nexus 4 runs on Lollipop just as well as it ran on Kitkat & Jelly Bean! BTW, thats THREE major OS updates for Nexus 4...! Which is Compareable to iPhone 4S and actually BETTER when you consider the functionality & performance factor!

Also keep in mind that the Nexus 4 is still usable on Android 5.1.1, whereas an iPhone 4S on iOS 9.1 can't handle even 2 apps open at the same time. The boot time on the 4S is also insanely long now.
Apple and their users boast about updates but the older phones that receive them turn to SH*T. The iPhone 4 and 4S have become unusable, because they're so slow.

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[s15]

^
+1.

About providing updates to older devices, Apple has 'very few' iPhone models to take care of, whereas Android phone manufacturers have to take care of hundreds of devices, their variants and so on, and almost everyday a new Android phone releases, so it is not very easy for them to keep up with updates for older devices.

But still there is some unfair delay in updates of some phones.

Nexus 4, released at the end of 2012 has updated to 5.1.1 and surprisingly running faster and troublefree than many non Nexus phones, thanks to Stock Android which is the only 'Pure & Troublefree Android'.

[Nabeel_Ali]

Well, yes & no. Surely old iPhones do get updated to latest iOS for upto 3 years or so, but they don't support all the features new OS has to offer and sometimes suffer from performance issues...
Apple 4S did get the latest iOS 9 update, but there's a LONG list of iOS 9 features that it doesn't support! Google will provide more insight...
Whereas Nexus 4 runs on Lollipop just as well as it ran on Kitkat & Jelly Bean! BTW, thats THREE major OS updates for Nexus 4...! Which is Compareable to iPhone 4S and actually BETTER when you consider the functionality & performance factor!

Bro nexus phones are just 5% of total android phones. What about Samsung, HTC, LG and those zillion Chinese manufacturers? The main android oems only update their main flagships, once the new model comes the older one gets neglected instantly. My s5 is still stuck on android 5.0 and God knows when will it get marshmallow, and I guess S4 is on kit kat still lol and the bad news is that when they do give an update they never update the their own software like S5 still is using the oldest touchwiz and it will never get the touchwiz in s6.

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[zuhaibafzal]

Bro nexus phones are just 5% of total android phones. What about Samsung, HTC, LG and those zillion Chinese manufacturers? The main android oems only update their main flagships, once the new model comes the older one gets neglected instantly. My s5 is still stuck on android 5.0 and God knows when will it get marshmallow, and I guess S4 is on kit kat still lol and the bad news is that when they do give an update they never update the their own software like S5 still is using the oldest touchwiz and it will never get the touchwiz in s6.

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S4 got lollipop in September. S6 haven't got Marshmallow yet so there is a long queue for S5.

[ihpwf12]

Bro nexus phones are just 5% of total android phones. What about Samsung, HTC, LG and those zillion Chinese manufacturers? The main android oems only update their main flagships, once the new model comes the older one gets neglected instantly. My s5 is still stuck on android 5.0 and God knows when will it get marshmallow, and I guess S4 is on kit kat still lol and the bad news is that when they do give an update they never update the their own software like S5 still is using the oldest touchwiz and it will never get the touchwiz in s6.

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Both S4 and S5 are updated to Lollipop, you may think why aren't either of them on 5.1.1? You may even think why is S5 on 5.0 and S4 on 5.0.1
That is something I can't explain that well, but I'll try.
I don't know why Samsung develops their updates like that, but they just do. They choose a random Android version and they develop and update for their device, but it won't be the latest Android version. However, for example, the S5 only has 5.0 builds available right now.
On SamMobile, if you search for G900F firmwares, a list will come up showing Android version and build dates. There are firmwares from last year with 5.0 and firmwares from a few days ago with 5.0
This means, Samsung includes any fixes, performance improvements and security updates from 5.1.1 and puts them into the same 5.0 build and pushes an update.

Your second point, why doesn't the UI on S5 look like S6?
Same reason as Apple.
However in this case, the S5 can easily handle the animations and UI elements of the S6. But Samsung still refuses to make all their phones look the same.
In Apple's case, the iPhone 4S on iOS 9 and the iPhone 6S on iOS 9.
Its horrible and Apple decided to not include some of the features in the 4S, because its tiny 512MB RAM couldn't handle it.

I read somewhere that the:
Galaxy Note 3
Galaxy S5
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note Edge
Galaxy Alpha
and some others
Will get Marshmallow in Q2 of 2016.

Galaxy S6
Galaxy S6 Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge+
Galaxy Note 5
and other newer gen devices
Will get Marshmallow in Q1 2015 and its possible we may see signs of it around December.

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[k-four-nine]

Bro nexus phones are just 5% of total android phones. What about Samsung, HTC, LG and those zillion Chinese manufacturers? The main android oems only update their main flagships, once the new model comes the older one gets neglected instantly. My s5 is still stuck on android 5.0 and God knows when will it get marshmallow, and I guess S4 is on kit kat still lol and the bad news is that when they do give an update they never update the their own software like S5 still is using the oldest touchwiz and it will never get the touchwiz in s6.

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Very true. But the only reason updates gets delayed on Non-Nexus devices is because of the customization the OEM makes to the real Android OS to make it 'Their Own'...
I give you an example of Motorola Moto X Pure. As the name suggests, it runs on PURE Android like a Nexus. And even though it gets updates from The OEM like any Samsung or LG & not directly from Google, its updates are FAST. As of now, Motorola is pushing Marshmallow Updates to Motorola Moto G, X Play and X Style; all running pure Android. Whereas Marshmallow Update is no where to be seen on Samsung, HTC and LG etc and even on Motorola's own Moto Droid Turbo which runs on customized Android...
Its because Samsung, LG and HTC etc are busy customizing Marshmallow in their Software Houses, which could take atleast a month or two! Hence, updates gets awfully delayed and sometimes don't even make their way to older devices!

[Nabeel_Ali]

Both S4 and S5 are updated to Lollipop, you may think why aren't either of them on 5.1.1? You may even think why is S5 on 5.0 and S4 on 5.0.1
That is something I can't explain that well, but I'll try.
I don't know why Samsung develops their updates like that, but they just do. They choose a random Android version and they develop and update for their device, but it won't be the latest Android version. However, for example, the S5 only has 5.0 builds available right now.
On SamMobile, if you search for G900F firmwares, a list will come up showing Android version and build dates. There are firmwares from last year with 5.0 and firmwares from a few days ago with 5.0
This means, Samsung includes any fixes, performance improvements and security updates from 5.1.1 and puts them into the same 5.0 build and pushes an update.

Your second point, why doesn't the UI on S5 look like S6?
Same reason as Apple.
However in this case, the S5 can easily handle the animations and UI elements of the S6. But Samsung still refuses to make all their phones look the same.
In Apple's case, the iPhone 4S on iOS 9 and the iPhone 6S on iOS 9.
Its horrible and Apple decided to not include some of the features in the 4S, because its tiny 512MB RAM couldn't handle it.

I read somewhere that the:
Galaxy Note 3
Galaxy S5
Galaxy Note 4
Galaxy Note Edge
Galaxy Alpha
and some others
Will get Marshmallow in Q2 of 2016.

Galaxy S6
Galaxy S6 Edge
Galaxy S6 Edge+
Galaxy Note 5
and other newer gen devices
Will get Marshmallow in Q1 2015 and its possible we may see signs of it around December.

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S4 got lollipop in September. S6 haven't got Marshmallow yet so there is a long queue for S5.

Oh my bad I thought S4 is still on Kitkat [emoji14] but the update problem regionally still exists. I had Note 4 before this and 6 month after the launch of lollipop it still didn't had it, only the Poland version got it so I had to use odin. In fact last time I checked Afghanistan got update before Pakistan. This is hideous. And worst part was that they ruined note 4 on lollipop and no fix was provided specially regarding ram management and battery problems. I know that Apple updates are also buggy but they provide fixes immediately, where as Samsung etc are just sleeping.

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[Nabeel_Ali]

Very true. But the only reason updates gets delayed on Non-Nexus devices is because of the customization the OEM makes to the real Android OS to make it 'Their Own'...
I give you an example of Motorola Moto X Pure. As the name suggests, it runs on PURE Android like a Nexus. And even though it gets updates from The OEM like any Samsung or LG & not directly from Google, its updates are FAST. As of now, Motorola is pushing Marshmallow Updates to Motorola Moto G, X Play and X Style; all running pure Android. Whereas Marshmallow Update is no where to be seen on Samsung, HTC and LG etc and even on Motorola's own Moto Droid Turbo which runs on customized Android...
Its because Samsung, LG and HTC etc are busy customizing Marshmallow in their Software Houses, which could take atleast a month or two! Hence, updates gets awfully delayed and sometimes don't even make their way to older devices!

Yes Bro I agree with you but it's about time these giant android oems should solely focus on software, they should focus all of their RND on it as hardware doesn't count now.
Firstly they should optimize android to have zero lag, secondly they should update all phones at once like Apple does and lastly they should provide instant fixes for bugs in their softwares because once they do update their older phones, they are hell buggy and then no support is provided.

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[k-four-nine]

@altisdualvvti, @s15
Bad News! Google has "almost" killed The AndroidOne Project:
Google giving Android One OEMs freedom to kill the Android One program
Crazy, right? Now that makes things perfectly clear!
I was wondering why Infinix Hot 2 don't have the specs of a "TRUE" AndroidOne like Qmobile A1. Thing is, AndroidOne is (or was) a standard with ALL devices having the EXACT the same specs regardless of OEM... Same LCD, same Processor, RAM, Resolution or whatever from Google Specified vendors. And there I was wondering, how come this darn Infinix has a 0.5" Bigger Display, better resolution and twice the RAM and lacks a Compass whereas all AndroidOne from Africa to Philipines to Pakistan are JUST THE SAME! It wasn't making much sense until now...!
According to this article, OEM can now give AndroidOne any specs or 'flavour' they want. They can now give it an Octa Core processor or a 6" Display, or 3GB of RAM if they so fancy!!! And inversely, AndroidOne no longer gets updates directly from Google but rather from The OEM itself on an 'ASAP' Basis according to Google Officials!
I think its a Good Thing! Now, imagine an AndroidOne with Galaxy Grand Prime specs & Snapdragon SoC! WOW!!!

[zuhaibafzal]

Blackberry first Android based Smartphone is here. Blackberry Priv

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[adil5855]

How can I update my Galaxy core prime to Lollipop?

[s15]

How can I update my Galaxy core prime to Lollipop?

Exact model number?.

G360G, G360F, or G360H?

If G360H, then there is no Lollipop update available yet. Enjoy the WARRANTY!

G360G has 5.1.1 and G360F has 5.0.2 update available.

Pakistani official warranty models (H variants) latest Android version updates are coming soon (on turtles), so be patient.

[s15]

^
Can't you people see that they are coming? Here is the proof!