Coolant & its life?

[Xulfiqar]

Thanks for the article.
I've gone through this.
But this article doesn't give clear information about

- Types of Coolant.
- Either we should pour the pure coolant in car or should mix with water.
- If mix with water, then how much water? Should be Tap water or ionized water or distilled water?
- The origin of the article is Alaska (so cold state of USA) and perhaps helpful for the people living in similar areas.
- How many people (general public driving cars) knows that coolant should have a certain PH value? PH is Power of the Liquid or an element to donate the Hydrogen ions under certain conditions. Mostly acids. So it seems quite unnecessary information.

Here is the part from last paragraph.

""If you have questions regarding the coolant condition or the cooling system on your vehicle, we
recommend having it checked by your vehicle manufacturer?s authorized dealer or repair
station.""""

It (the whole article) simply recommends to use the coolant as advised by manufacturer and if any problem, then we should contact with manufacturer. That’s all. Absolutely Nothing special.

PH value is unnecessary information? what part of the world do you live in? Why dont you try to use an acidic coolant in your engine and see how it looks after a few months, at first it would be shiny new, after a few months the cast metal will be gone. Why? the DAMN PH thing did its job, but its fizool - most people think that such chemicals are a way of robbing money from the user.

the bare bones of using coolant for people who think cars are magical shiny boxes that feed on petrol should only be taught the below paragraph.

if you dont use proper branded coolant diluted half with distilled water you will have to sell your wife's jewelry to pay the mechanics bills. Coolant is a magic elixir that makes water the fountain of youth for your car engine, Using coolant will also increase its resale value.

[GoodMan7]

PH value is unnecessary information? what part of the world do you live in? Why dont you try to use an acidic coolant in your engine and see how it looks after a few months, at first it would be shiny new, after a few months the cast metal will be gone. Why? the DAMN PH thing did its job, but its fizool - most people think that such chemicals are a way of robbing money from the user.

the bare bones of using coolant for people who think cars are magical shiny boxes that feed on petrol should only be taught the below paragraph.

if you dont use proper branded coolant diluted half with distilled water you will have to sell your wife's jewelry to pay the mechanics bills. Coolant is a magic elixir that makes water the fountain of youth for your car engine, Using coolant will also increase its resale value.

I've read your many posts. And noticed that most of them contain technical knowledge which is mostly unnecessary to know for a common man. People click "like' to the post and move on, considering that post of excellent & perfect. I also agree with this because am one of them too.

But.... here most folks need to know the suitability of the oils according to their engine's life & health. Which oils are good which are not. Where to find the good quality oils. To know if many people out there having the same vehicles as theirs and wishing to know the mileage they are getting and the performance, etc. etc. etc.

Well the technical knowledge is always appreciated. But its quite excessive to absorb.

Many times your replies are bit insufficient. Just a recent example of Coolant thread. You mentioned that water does cooling and should be mixed with coolant. But never mention how much?
Anyway, its not a complain, but for me (personally), such information (like PH, Acid wash, etc.) are over weighted. Keeping general informations with bit of knowledge is good.

[Xulfiqar]

When you use a product and need to inquire about what to use for it you do a few things

1 - read the manual and follow it
OR

2 - research on how and why

So - if you want a simple answer to this - if you drive a Honda go to a Honda store and buy their premixed coolant and pour it in, if you drive a hyundai shehzore go to a hyundai showroom (which are all closed now) and buy a bottle of coolant from them (but you cannot as the showroom closed off)

So now you can either throw away the Shehzore because no parts are available or try to find the correct "technical specifications" for it so you can actually keep it working. Which means that you then find out WHY was a certain product recommended by the manufacturer - that involves technical details but you say they are useless - Well I guess then ignorance wins here.

In short, I have read that you run an oil retail business - still you are questioning how much water to add to coolant? Its very basic sense and just for keeping the responsibility clear on the manufacturer side they print the usage of coolant in the owner manual. Now you being in the oil retail industry can easily get the TDS of the products you sell which are a must for a business like yours - Just like when you ask me about these technically I reply to you accordingly - because this is a discussion forum. But you just claimed that you dont need any technicalities just sentences like - buy this and thats all. But then you ask such questions of HOW much water should I add to coolant - This is really sad because on every package it will claim either its premixed ready to use or requires dilution with water and secondly you already are in this business - and in every business you should know the finer details about it - thats how you win.

In very simple terms henceforth

"when buying coolant READ THE PACKAGE" If you cannot understand it, you can take a picture of it and post here with your question"

To answer the water as heat transfer medium question I would need to verify first that you can actually understand the concept of latent heat in thermodynamics

[faiz.aslam.121]

One question: is there a chance of coolant getting low in level? I've got a brand new swift and the coolant level seems to get lower than it was brand new. Do I check from radiator cap or the reservoir bottle? I'll attach a picture, hopefully the MIN/ MAX signs are visible
Reservoir bottle


Radiator cap

[Xulfiqar]

that level is perfect, and dont open the radiator cap it can upset the level inside and in some cases (like tilted car) can introduce air pockets.

Open the cap only when extremely necessary.

[faiz.aslam.121]

it's more towards the low side, i was expecting it to be at least 75% full. Is it safe to top it up with Suzuki's genuine coolant?

[Xulfiqar]

leave it alone, that gap is required, when the engine is hot the level will be near or above full. Its normal.

[faiz.aslam.121]

Thanks for your valuable information, a pleasure to have people like you on PakWheels:)

[tariqazama]

I bought Genuine Toyota coolant from Toyota Ravi with price of 2500 for 2 litres and it is pink color coolant and is Made in japan. red color coolant is Thai or pakistan made.

[ehalin]

Can you post a picture? Thanks,

I bought Genuine Toyota coolant from Toyota Ravi with price of 2500 for 2 litres and it is pink color coolant and is Made in japan. red color coolant is Thai or pakistan made.

[Xulfiqar]

I bought Genuine Toyota coolant from Toyota Ravi with price of 2500 for 2 litres and it is pink color coolant and is Made in japan. red color coolant is Thai or pakistan made.

pink is SLLC, its nothing to do with japani, pakistani or thai, it can come from different areas of the world.

[ehalin]

This is the reason why I requested him to post a picture? These sales people understand the Pakistani customers mentality and also all they are concerned with is their sales. If you ask for a pink coolant they will give you pink one and if you ask for red coolant they will give you red one. But if you look closely both of red and pink will have exactly "same colour."

pink is SLLC, its nothing to do with japani, pakistani or thai, it can come from different areas of the world.

[Xulfiqar]

the part number for pink coolant is 00272-SLLC2

while the part number for the red coolant is 00272-1LLAC-01

the packaging will literally say super long life coolant for pink

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[jz]

replace it every 4 years or 100,000 kms.

thats the answer i was looking for

[ehalin]

Toyota Coolant which is available here on dealerships has part # 08889-80029. I couldn't find any reference on net. Regards,

[bradpit]

Sir is glysantin G48 hybrid formulation is suitable for Honda ?

Only the old formulation of G30 is officially approved for Honda & the G48 is not.

Is it a marketing gimmick or G48 could damage the cooling system if used in Honda ?

never use neat coolant as it will have very poor heat transfer capability, always cut with distilled water.

the water does the cooling job, the glycol formulation does the protection and management of the freeze and boil of the water in the coolant mixture.

ergo - always use the proper recommended ratio.

when using a regular OAT, HOAT coolant - replace it every 4 years or 100,000 kms. The toyota red and pink are really good products, the best ive used is BASF glysantin.

[Xulfiqar]

Sir is glysantin G48 hybrid formulation is suitable for Honda ?

Only the old formulation of G30 is officially approved for Honda & the G48 is not.

Is it a marketing gimmick or G48 could damage the cooling system if used in Honda ?

The G30 is the best for all aluminium construction engines with many metal parts, the G48 has silicates which require additional add packs in the cooling system, mostly these are placed like packets in the coolant tanks and nearly all the cars that take this have a completely sealed system meaning no open to air overflow expansion tank.

I personally use G05 in nearly all cars that I have. Its a real nice item

[tariqazama]

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