CTS-V - "The Sport Sedan Standard of World"

[salman_ksa]

@ateekt, Like in my last post, I copied a line from article which clearly states that "Cadillac frankly admits that the target for the new CTS-V is the BMW M5" Though I agree with you too on E60 being old, But still Caddy is the GAME here, about engineering, it's safe to say how well is THIS Caddy has been engineered and we can't deny that LS9 too. (y)

Just leave everything aside and look at that little monster 'See Sixty Three' :d

[wik_a]

@ateekt
Nice Hurricane. (Y) Well what nurburgring lap time it records? My claim for CTS-V to be the fastest was based on its nurburgring lap time.

Why don't you let the Hennessey Performance get their hands on this CTS-V (if they bother to :P) and then see the answer to G5. lol

@toofast
I've heard a lot 'good stuff' about their 'very simple' i-drive.

@anonpak
Its ok. No problem.

@salman_ksa
You're right bro. The point is not that whether you agree that this car is better than your beloved brands cars or not. Whether this will sell or not. The whole point is that it has matched (and crossed in some cases) the performance benchmarks set by these high-end performance cars from germany. All this by a 'messed up company'. Isn't it a good thing and deserves applaud. (H)

Just leave everything aside and look at that little monster 'See Sixty Three' :d

Why does your every post have to have a marketing slogan everytime?

[tech_wiz]

@all:

What are you guys made of? Victims of an escaped brain or what? Probably. When was E60 M5 launched? 2005!

When was this Caddy launched? I think there is a time scale difference of couple of years. Based on that Caddy is more than 3 years behind BMW and probably more if you throw in an M3.

How can you in the world compare an M5 with CTS-V? Totally different size/segment cars. Why not throw in a BMW M3 and see whats what. It'll be 1-2 seconds quicker than Caddy. Jeezuz, these reviewers suffer from some mental problem.

^ By the time you'll get the RS5 the next generation CTS-V will be on roads kicking all 'delayed-RS' a$$.

By the time we can now get CTS-V, M5 has been owning & kicking for more than 3 years straight!

[salman_ksa]

^ Chill out, what if M5 was launched in 2005? LOL! you sound like that we're responsible for this comparison.

How can you in the world compare an M5 with CTS-V?

The comparison was done by edmunds and Cadillac targeted M5 with their CTS-V, go and lodge a complain against them .LOL!

Totally different size/segment cars.

Size, I agree, but what segment, can you tell in which segment both cars belongs to? Cadillac is a 4 door Performance Sedan so is the M5.

Why not throw in a BMW M3 and see whats what. It'll be 1-2 seconds quicker than Caddy.

Never do this mistake, Cadillac is 4-5 sec quicker than M3 around Nurburgring and .6 sec faster in straight line. It will cream it!

[wik_a]

@tech_wiz

What are you guys made of? Victims of an escaped brain or what? Probably.

At least not of the junk you're made of.

Based on that Caddy is more than 3 years behind BMW and probably more if you throw in an M3.

Open your eyes and see how this Caddy has competed with your modern age C63. Get out of your kids mentality that BMW is 3 years ahead. Comparisons are not done on the basis that all cars have to have same launch date.

How can you in the world compare an M5 with CTS-V? Totally different size/segment cars.

Officially the CTS-V was launched to target M5. Thats why they are comparing.

Why not throw in a BMW M3 and see whats what. It'll be 1-2 seconds quicker than Caddy.

The nurburgring lap time of E92 M3 is 8:05. A full 5 seconds slower.

Jeezuz, these reviewers suffer from some mental problem.

Probably they lack kids like you to come up and based their reviews on personal favoritism.

By the time we can now get CTS-V, M5 has been owning & kicking for more than 3 years straight!

Dream on (H)

[ToofaneBatameezi]

I say I love BMW M5, And I wont mind buying the CTS-V or If the company gives me RS6; (Y)

[tech_wiz]

@salman_ksa:
Then by that standard M3 and M5 are in the same segment just like C63 AMG and S65 AMG. On this particular track how much was faster was Caddy than an M5? Just around 1 second. We all know M3 is much quicker than M5 around track. Do the Math.

@wik_a:

Ever since you joined PW, have you ever tried to show your liking about anything other than Chevys? Oh & btw, how much of the bailout money did you get?
Better go Food/Flower/Fishing forums next time?

[salman_ksa]

This very particular track was 'ONLY' 1.8 mi (2.89682). and where CTS-V set the record on Northern Loop of Nurburgring which is 4.814mi (7.747 km), I hope you know, The longer the track the more potential need to turn'. Atleast do a Google search (if not math) before posting.

@wik_a:

Ever since you joined PW, have you ever tried to show your liking about anything other than Chevys? Oh & btw, how much of the bailout money did you get?
Better go Food/Flower/Fishing forums next time?

Type in the same manner, you want to be typed to.

[wik_a]

@tech_wiz

Ever since you joined PW, have you ever tried to show your liking about anything other than Chevys? Oh & btw, how much of the bailout money did you get?
Better go Food/Flower/Fishing forums next time?

Just as I expect from you kids to talk cheap as soon as something hurts your fanboyism. Sorry, I don't have any answer to your juvenile mental approach. I know what forums to visit but you better visit some "grow up kid" forums. Will be of great help to you.

@salman_ksa
Truly said (Y)

[ToofaneBatameezi]

Tech_Wiz:

how much of the bailout money did you get?

He got enough to support ur family for coming 100 Generations!!

Better go Food/Flower/Fishing forums next time?

Yeah we should make one forum since I would love this country go green & The automotive world is even trying to go green!!

Even if I wanted to support ur point; I can't ur just too rude!!

Wik_a: Jigar, You owe me some cigarettes now!!
\m/

[wik_a]

@Toofan

lolz... Yei le... chill ker... kafi hien??

ok I've edited. ab theek hei jigz?

[ToofaneBatameezi]

lol; Nahin i smoke Gold Leaf!!

[ateekt]

@ wik_a:

Oh Paa-jee, Hennessey thing is good for Dodge! Stick & respect the Lengenfelter jobs, best ever for Gm! (y)

[ateekt]

@ salman_ksa:

It's not about what Cadillac thinks of their car! It's about what it's meant to be & what it really is!

PakSuzuki is also trying to chase
"standards"
since last 20 years with legendary Mehran!

[sami_voodoo]

I want the IS-F

Seriously though, if I'm going as fast a scalded raccoon in a CTS-V, I don't care if it looks like an outhouse inside. At least its got a proper manual, and for me that's what counts.

The C-63 doesn't come with an LSD or manual, so that's out.

And the M5? Well, no doubt it's an accomplished car, but again, it's got a robotised manual that I can't live with at that price range. I was a huge fan of the E39, just because it was a proper Q-car.

That said, I'd love to see how the CTS-V holds out in the long term. I know that the German opposition isn't the most reliable either. The Lexus might be a bit better as far as reliability is concerned.

[Bilaltq]

Is it me or is there no one impartial over here? I mean we've had Sami bhai, but other than that everyone's just sticking to their "fanboyism", quoting wik_a.

We need an impartial judge. And I think... Edmunds did an article titled "CTS-V- The Sport Sedan Standard of the World"!

In all seriousness, though, I'm still sticking with the CTS-V. All the old arguments against Cadillac are pretty much dead. Yes, they're still designing crap concept cars, but still the cars that came into production aren't that bad (some although, are horrendous.. but still). As far as the Hurricane M5 goes, it's completely rebuilt from the ground up AFTER leaving the factory, so yes while it may be the fastest sedan in the world (leaving all the particulars out), it's still not viable to this discussion.

American Muscle FTW! (Y)

[sami_voodoo]

Bilal

On second thought, I know I'll be grilled for this, but forget all of these samples of automotive "greatnesses" and make way for the grand daddy, the Maserati Quattroporte. Once you have that, you don't need to go fast around the Nurburgring, you've got nothing to prove (H). Won't you agree Saqib Bhai?

Of course, there's the little problem of price that we need to contend with...

[Bilaltq]

I'd agree, but my image of the Quattroporte was ruined when I saw it was only owned by old farts who drive it at 25mph in the left most lane on the freeway!

[salman_ksa]

@sami_voodoo, Just to clarify...

Seriously though, if I'm going as fast a scalded raccoon in a CTS-V, I don't care if it looks like an outhouse inside. At least its got a proper manual, and for me that's what counts

It might sound strange, but Auto CTS-V is faster than Manual CTS-V in straight punching contest as well around Nurburgring.

The C-63 doesn't come with an LSD or manual, so that's out.

C63 does come with LSD which is included in Performance Package, and I just noticed that the car which they (edmunds) tested, wasn't with PP. with PP you also get better brakes and delimited top speed to 172mph and some interior changes.

I want the IS-F

Seriously? A car with fake tailpipes

@ateekt,

PakSuzuki is also trying to chase "standards" since last 20 years with legendary Mehran!

ROFL!!!

[sami_voodoo]

Salman

Hmmm... I seem to be a bit out of date here... ^o)

It might sound strange, but Auto CTS-V is faster than Manual CTS-V in straight punching contest as well around Nurburgring.It might sound strange, but Auto CTS-V is faster than Manual CTS-V in straight punching contest as well around Nurburgring.

It's not the going fast that does it for me, it's the challenge of changing the gears myself that I want. If a car is available with a manual, I'd go for that. Same goes for the C63 AMG.

Seriously? A car with fake tailpipes

The Lexus IS-F? Well, I was trying to add some spice to the mix, nothing else :d. I know it comes with neither an LSD nor a manual.

On second thought, I know I'll be grilled for this, but forget all of these samples of automotive "greatnesses" and make way for the grand daddy, the Maserati Quattroporte.

I know, I know, the QP is also an Auto (or Cambiocorsa), but it's not supposed to driven like a CTS-V. And anyway, it's not a contender here...