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[testdriver]

thx for the replt testdriver....i dont think a relay is installed for injector and fuel pump as once the cng technician did try electronic switch but it didnt work....for now i will let go of this idea ...
right now i want to ask about petrol settings...recently i changed the valves of my car as it was missing....on both petrol and cng and mechanic and electrician said two of the valves were damaged and dat was due to bad petrol quality...any how the fuel tank was washed as well....i got the car yesterday and put in 1000rs petrol approx 11 litres i guess and my car ran just 75km after which the engine started to shut off so i guess the petrol ended...i made the rough guess abt petrol consumption which must be like 7litres/ km...man its too much...i want to run the car on petrol but cant with such high consumption...
plz can u help me in telling me what shall be done? as i m already using an advancer as u know...set on cng setting...
is there anything like computerised petrol tunning?
should i go for that?
and also wanted to ask if this distributor being on cng has anything to do with high fuel consumption? but at the same time do ve advancer...doesnt it kinda runs it on fuel setting the same time acting as fuel retarder...
help me out.....im thinking for petrol tunning but wanted to ask if like computerised CNG tunning there is petrol tunning as well?
IF there is such tunning on computers then does any body know of any good tunning workshop in LAHORE city?
so many questions.....but i cant help it as once a thing gets stuck in my mind i cant let go of it till its solved and in doing so i ve spent a lot on this car....especially for this petrol thing....i really wana ve good average on it...

Once you have to somehow get the ECM scanned to help diagnose the problem. If the engine is running rich (black smoke from the exhaust), try setting the CO. If you have doubt on the advancer, temporarily remove it and try driving on petrol without it.

I am also doubtful about the connections of advancer, can you take a snap from the distributor wiring to the advancer?

[guybwp]

im in lahore and i dnt think there is any daewoo scanner available here in lahore....i asked a guy who does computerised tunning of cng but he said only daewoo poeple can do it. but he said he can do petrol tunning but i doubt if he can really do it.....i went to enercon as well and the guy there said it has single injecton system and there is no knob for petrol tunning and its ECM is self learning type so it cant be tunned apart from cleaning the plugs etc..........
i will post the pic. i dnt know if advancer is working to its full capacity but at least that much i knw that it is working coz my car is running fine both on CNG and PETROL while distributor is set on CNG setting..where as before advancer was installed the car used to rev up and then switch off at the same distributor setting....which isnt happening now after installing the advancer and running the car at same advancement for CNG and petrol..infact i tried to set the distributor on petrol mark but the pick was very much reduced on both PETROL n CNG...and dats how i knew it was fuel retarder for sure....
i wish i had fund the real STAP56....which runs the car on petrol setting and advances time for cng....would installing a relay for injector and fuel pump help? or adjusting the rpm....i think after installing the new valves to correct the missing problem, somehow the settings for both cng and petrol r affected...coz the full CNG cylinder ran just for 80 to 85 km in the city...
plz help out..should i go to the guy who said he can tune up the car thru computer both for CNG n PETROL...does the scanner which normally scans ECM of honda corolla can also be used to scan DAEWOO ecm?

[Hamza24]

Salam Brothers !!!
I have recently bouhgt a Daewoo Racer 96. Ihad a mehran before Racer.But i would say That Its such an Amazing and luxury car i think mehran is a waste of Money. i would say those who are looking for a luxurius car in mehrans price they should go for Daewoo.

There are few things i want to know.1st how to raise the antenna of radio hahah.2nd i want to know that i bought this car for 345K is it ok.if u ask about condition then the condition is bombastic.here a few photos. oh one more thing that the voice of tape is very low is it by company or there is some problem????

[testdriver]

im in lahore and i dnt think there is any daewoo scanner available here in lahore....i asked a guy who does computerised tunning of cng but he said only daewoo poeple can do it. but he said he can do petrol tunning but i doubt if he can really do it.....i went to enercon as well and the guy there said it has single injecton system and there is no knob for petrol tunning and its ECM is self learning type so it cant be tunned apart from cleaning the plugs etc..........
i will post the pic. i dnt know if advancer is working to its full capacity but at least that much i knw that it is working coz my car is running fine both on CNG and PETROL while distributor is set on CNG setting..where as before advancer was installed the car used to rev up and then switch off at the same distributor setting....which isnt happening now after installing the advancer and running the car at same advancement for CNG and petrol..infact i tried to set the distributor on petrol mark but the pick was very much reduced on both PETROL n CNG...and dats how i knew it was fuel retarder for sure....
i wish i had fund the real STAP56....which runs the car on petrol setting and advances time for cng....would installing a relay for injector and fuel pump help? or adjusting the rpm....i think after installing the new valves to correct the missing problem, somehow the settings for both cng and petrol r affected...coz the full CNG cylinder ran just for 80 to 85 km in the city...
plz help out..should i go to the guy who said he can tune up the car thru computer both for CNG n PETROL...does the scanner which normally scans ECM of honda corolla can also be used to scan DAEWOO ecm?

There is a CO potentiometer for fine tuning of fuel delivery. Take your car to enercon and ask them to adjust the mixture setting through it. The location is mentioned in the attached picture for reference.

Regarding your second question, No you cannot use any other scanner.

[testdriver]

@Hamza24

WAS!
You got a good deal as the condition of your car seems nice! What is the condition of engine and suspension? Regarding your queries:

1. Try using magnet or tie a small piece of wire beneath antenna tip
2. Yes the radio/cassette player is not loud, only 5 + 5 watt rms!

[Hamza24]

Mashallah The suspension is in excellent condition and the engine Also powerful.Engine 101000 Km Driven original Engine and never opened(overhauled). every thing is perfectly working.
Plz tell what should i do to make its consumption better because its giving me 110 on cng and on petrol 8 to 10 km /Liter.Here are few more pics.

Thanks!

[guybwp]

the enercon guy here is the one who said the ecm has self learning thing for fuel delivery and consumption..they r not apt enough regarding this car i guess..i will go to my mechanic to check the CO....i guess i gotta ve to take trip to isb one of these days may be guys there know about the advancer....much better then guys here..

[ultimatewhispers]

The realistic mileage is 11-12 in city with gear change at 2.5K RPMS and light foot. I recommend you get the ECM scanned for any problem, since hit and trial will not give desired results. Yes all the sensors are involved in attaining ideal consumption and performance.

Also thanks for pointing out about the service manual links, I have re-validated them.

Thanks for re-validating the links. Will get my ECM scanned in next week and share the results.

[asifnadeem1975]

Dear Test Driver
I have turned turned my daewoo on petrol during current CNG crisis. But on petrol the car taking jerks after covering some distance rest the car is marvellous. Kindly guide me what should I do?

[testdriver]

Dear Test Driver
I have turned turned my daewoo on petrol during current CNG crisis. But on petrol the car taking jerks after covering some distance rest the car is marvellous. Kindly guide me what should I do?

Did you check the fuel pump and fuel filter? Do you get any error code/CEL? Any black smoke from exhaust?

[hafizsarwar]

1. Before overhauling the engine, the car was giving oily black smoke. Now i have overhauled and the car is still giving the smoke but it is not oily. Tahir has said that it will take time(approx 6 month) to clear the old smoke from silensor. Is it another way to clear the smoke.

2. Regarding water dropping from engine in the morning, on petrol water drops after 2-4 minutes start. Should it drop water immediately or this one is OK and a good sign of engine.

[hafizsarwar]

Reference Post #4770 below are the rates of work done in my woo from Tahir Sb G-8 Markaz. (Please point out the items about over rate):-

Fuel Injector - 3000
Crank - 7000
Piston - 3000
Ring - 2100
Jain Kit - 1400
Cam House - 1500
Labour - 4000
Oil Pump - 3000
Excel Set - 3000
Plug - 580
Wheel Baring(8) - 1900
Timing Belt - 700
Self - 2600
Cam - 6000
Fuel Pump - 1500
Kharadia - 2500

[ammadusmani1]

Dear Test Driver, i have Daewoo Recer 1993 model, i am very much confused regarding Radiator FAN. I have overhauled my engine from Shahid G-10. He said that your FAN should be direct and he made it BUT now i have made it automatic by some electrician but still a problem in low speed of FAN. I want to know that what is the Genuine procedure of radiator FAN and how many speeds of FAN are ?. Said electrician insert a lupi with a fuse and told me that whenever you want to start the low speed of FAN you just have to complete the circuit of lupi with a fuse then FAN will always start at low speed means DIRECT. But It is very hard to accept that the company do like that. I think this is a CHOOGAAR. Please help me in this context and advised me some good electrician. i am very much obliged

[testdriver]

Reference Post #4770 below are the rates of work done in my woo from Tahir Sb G-8 Markaz. (Please point out the items about over rate):-

Fuel Injector - 3000
Crank - 7000
Piston - 3000
Ring - 2100
Jain Kit - 1400
Cam House - 1500
Labour - 4000
Oil Pump - 3000
Excel Set - 3000
Plug - 580
Wheel Baring(8) - 1900
Timing Belt - 700
Self - 2600
Cam - 6000
Fuel Pump - 1500
Kharadia - 2500

I am not aware of prices for majority of the items above, but as I mentioned earlier, you can check the prices of various items from the part dealers. Labor and Kharadia seems reasonable though.

[testdriver]

Dear Test Driver, i have Daewoo Recer 1993 model, i am very much confused regarding Radiator FAN. I have overhauled my engine from Shahid G-10. He said that your FAN should be direct and he made it BUT now i have made it automatic by some electrician but still a problem in low speed of FAN. I want to know that what is the Genuine procedure of radiator FAN and how many speeds of FAN are ?. Said electrician insert a lupi with a fuse and told me that whenever you want to start the low speed of FAN you just have to complete the circuit of lupi with a fuse then FAN will always start at low speed means DIRECT. But It is very hard to accept that the company do like that. I think this is a CHOOGAAR. Please help me in this context and advised me some good electrician. i am very much obliged

I have already send you a reply, and I have also got your reply back. Still quoting it here for other's reference.

AoA,

There are two speeds in the fan, when the engine gets little hotter than optimum temperature, the fan starts at low speed, still if the engine does not cool down within one minute, the fan runs at full speed.

As far as the "lupi" is concerned, company has given an emergency mechanism of running the radiator fan and one has to put a fuse of 30A between the two pins...

Your reply:

Walaikum Sallam, Thanks for your active response, please also tell me the electrician who can do this and which type of coolant i can use in the radiator and how much quantity of water i will mix it. JazakALLAH

Regarding electrician, you can contact Arshad Electrician in G-10, I&T Centre near Shahid's workshop, I don't have his contact number.

For coolant I recommend use of zic premixed formula.

[hafizsarwar]

@testdrive please answer post #4791

[testdriver]

1. Before overhauling the engine, the car was giving oily black smoke. Now i have overhauled and the car is still giving the smoke but it is not oily. Tahir has said that it will take time(approx 6 month) to clear the old smoke from silensor. Is it another way to clear the smoke.

2. Regarding water dropping from engine in the morning, on petrol water drops after 2-4 minutes start. Should it drop water immediately or this one is OK and a good sign of engine.

1. The silencer should emit blue smoke if engine is consuming oil, if it is emitting black smoke (on petrol), it is running rich mixture. Regarding residual oil in the silencer, it should vanish with the passage of time.

2. Water dropping does not start instantly in the morning, but when the engine becomes a little warmer (the time span depends on the ambient temperature).

[haideruet]

Hi,

now a days I am using heater in my daewoo racer, but i dont know , what the symbols mean in second knob with fan speed .
what should be the proper setting of knob.

thanks

[ammadusmani1]

I have already send you a reply, and I have also got your reply back. Still quoting it here for other's reference.

AoA,

There are two speeds in the fan, when the engine gets little hotter than optimum temperature, the fan starts at low speed, still if the engine does not cool down within one minute, the fan runs at full speed.

As far as the "lupi" is concerned, company has given an emergency mechanism of running the radiator fan and one has to put a fuse of 30A between the two pins...

Your reply:

Regarding electrician, you can contact Arshad Electrician in G-10, I&T Centre near Shahid's workshop, I don't have his contact number.

For coolant I recommend use of zic premixed formula.

@Testdriver
AoA! Thanks for your guidance JazakALLAH

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