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[accord7362]

great average Ahmad bahi

[raza1]

bhai jan aesi avg ki pics na lagaya karain , now our avg is 10.2 km/l , i'm drooling all over the place coz there is 0.1 increment!

Buntu bhai, when i refilled the tank few days ago, meter shown 11.5, then refilled and set meter to zero, initially it shown 12.5 now today 11.8 :). Synthetic oil ka kamal hai.

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[ahmad_yar]

Ahmad bhai, u got this avg before refilling the tank?

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raza bhai this is 0 to 1000km overall avg and one of my pw brother
nomi ( having new city ) confirms his manual calculations matched with car calculator

bhai app wala manual calculation method main bhul jata hoon at time of refeuling pls maaf ker
deen , next refeuling will remmber it inshallha

[ahmad_yar]

bhai jan aesi avg ki pics na lagaya karain , now our avg is 10.2 km/l , i'm drooling all over the place coz there is 0.1 increment!

hahaha really enjoyed ur expressions , bhai be patient , let complete 1000 km, usualy feul avg set roughly after 5000 km

[speedster_101]

@Ahmed
Hey brother how are you?
Congrats on buying a pair of these black beauties.
As you mentioned, you have both Honda City and Toyota Corolla 1.3 cars, both are 2012 models, how do you compare them?
I don't want to start a war here, there are a lot of threads on that, but since you own them both brand new, you are in a better position to comment.
1) Engine response. Does Toyota Corolla feels underpowered after driving Honda City? Which one is better in terms of torque?
2) Build quailty. Whose build quality is better.
3) Paint quality. Since you are a detailer, how can I miss that point?

In terms of comfort and space, I know Corolla is better, so I won't ask these things.
I own Honda City manual which I bought brand new last year. Its 6500 Km driven till now.

[ahmad_yar]

great average Ahmad bahi

amir bhai really miss you

[ahmad_yar]

@Ahmed
Hey brother how are you?
Congrats on buying a pair of these black beauties.
As you mentioned, you have both Honda City and Toyota Corolla 1.3 cars, both are 2012 models, how do you compare them?
I don't want to start a war here, there are a lot of threads on that, but since you own them both brand new, you are in a better position to comment.
1) Engine response. Does Toyota Corolla feels underpowered after driving Honda City? Which one is better in terms of torque?
2) Build quailty. Whose build quality is better.
3) Paint quality. Since you are a detailer, how can I miss that point?

In terms of comfort and space, I know Corolla is better, so I won't ask these things.
I own Honda City manual which I bought brand new last year. Its 6500 Km driven till now.

dilawer bhai
jazakallha for your post here and greetings

city is polish metal colour not black

yes there is war between honda and toyota fans on pw , infact my ex ride was also civic 04 and loved that car very much.

here is my personal experince / observations for corolla and city without any biasness:)

1) comfort / space
as u already said rolla far better than city in comfort and space, i re-confirm this
while driving rolla i feel crusing on sea, one of my friend having 2012 reborn belive
me in comfort not much differnce. city suspencions really very hard

2) engine responce
city far better than rolla, rolla seems really underpower in 1.3 liter with such huge body
specialy in city drive feels un-comfortable however after changing its oil to mobil 1 full syn
and hi-octain feul much improvments
on highway no issue with rolla ,uptil now i touched 160km on moterway with ac
and car was realy stable ( my friends told me its top speed is about 180km )

3) build quality
toyota improves build quality a lot compare to previous shape rolla and not much differnce
but if u ask me to rate quality than overall city build quality little better

4) feul avg

city better than rolla

rolla shows better results on highway but overall city feul avg better.

4) paint quaility

rolla far better than honda, honda having alot orange peel, well u will notice orange
peel on toyota as well but far less than honda.
so toyota reflect better detailing results

5) cabin

city cabin compact and give more young spoty look specialy its steering whereas rolla give wide ellegant look specialy beige black interior give expencive look, city odo meter better than rolla. some brothers on pw having dissatisfaction with rolla ac but uptil now i found it ok and no issues, both cars ac good enough just rolla produce more fan noise when on the ac compare to city

rolla seats are more comfy than city
sound system of city better than rolla's

6) shape
well both shapes perfect and modern, city shape more sporty, young look, rolla shape more wide, dynamic more ellegant ( dont like rolla tail lights :() well its all depend upon personal liking disliking, i personaly like rolla shape ( may be due to my age reasons hahah )

in nutshell city is real city car, compact, fast , better fuel avg, young look, stylish, more user friendly , i really feel young while driving her and wish to dye my all silver hairs to black
i belive rolla would be much better in altis 1.6 liter engine and may be next year i upgrade to altis manual 6 gear ( hun sare pasee muk gye nae ) well i wished for civic but i hate upcoming shape of civic and overall worldwide feedbacks are not good for new shape civic

dilawar bhai one request pls dont make me embaress by calling me detailer, i am just learner

i hope i cover all of ur questions, pls feel free to ask more if i left anything

[waleed80]

as per my city onboard computer, my car is regularly giving me 14.5 km/liter in hundred percent city drive with 100 percent AC on, even on chowks and traffic signals. on long route (only went on GT road once), it gives me 21 km/liter with 100 percent AC on @speed of 100 km/hr. moreover, my car is only driven 3000 kilometers till now, and is running on the engine oil which came with it when the car was delivered. planning to switch over to Mobil 1 fully synthetic now. hopefully it would improve more, or it wont ? comments please. cause usman (detailer) bro is not a very big fan of fully synthetic oils for some reason

[waleed80]

^^^^ and as per my own experience, the ACTUAL average we get is around 0.6 - 0.7 km/liter LESS than the onboard computer

[speedster_101]

dilawer bhai
jazakallha for your post here and greetings

city is polish metal colour not black

yes there is war between honda and toyota fans on pw , infact my ex ride was also civic 04 and loved that car very much.

here is my personal experince / observations for corolla and city without any biasness:)

1) comfort / space
as u already said rolla far better than city in comfort and space, i re-confirm this
while driving rolla i feel crusing on sea, one of my friend having 2012 reborn belive
me in comfort not much differnce. city suspencions really very hard

2) engine responce
city far better than rolla, rolla seems really underpower in 1.3 liter with such huge body
specialy in city drive feels un-comfortable however after changing its oil to mobil 1 full syn
and hi-octain feul much improvments
on highway no issue with rolla ,uptil now i touched 160km on moterway with ac
and car was realy stable ( my friends told me its top speed is about 180km )

3) build quality
toyota improves build quality a lot compare to previous shape rolla and not much differnce
but if u ask me to rate quality than overall city build quality little better

4) feul avg

city better than rolla

rolla shows better results on highway but overall city feul avg better.

4) paint quaility

rolla far better than honda, honda having alot orange peel, well u will notice orange
peel on toyota as well but far less than honda.
so toyota reflect better detailing results

5) cabin

city cabin compact and give more young spoty look specialy its steering whereas rolla give wide ellegant look specialy beige black interior give expencive look, city odo meter better than rolla. some brothers on pw having dissatisfaction with rolla ac but uptil now i found it ok and no issues, both cars ac good enough just rolla produce more fan noise when on the ac compare to city

rolla seats are more comfy than city
sound system of city better than rolla's

6) shape
well both shapes perfect and modern, city shape more sporty, young look, rolla shape more wide, dynamic more ellegant ( dont like rolla tail lights :() well its all depend upon personal liking disliking, i personaly like rolla shape ( may be due to my age reasons hahah )

in nutshell city is real city car, compact, fast , better fuel avg, young look, stylish, more user friendly , i really feel young while driving her and wish to dye my all silver hairs to black
i belive rolla would be much better in altis 1.6 liter engine and may be next year i upgrade to altis manual 6 gear ( hun sare pasee muk gye nae ) well i wished for civic but i hate upcoming shape of civic and overall worldwide feedbacks are not good for new shape civic

dilawar bhai one request pls dont make me embaress by calling me detailer, i am just learner

i hope i cover all of ur questions, pls feel free to ask more if i left anything

Thanks a lot Ahmed Bhai for such a detailed reply. It was really helpful. I agree with almost all the points.
Everyone of us are in learning phase but you have got good detailing knowledge.
Regards.

[buntu]

^^^^ and as per my own experience, the ACTUAL average we get is around 0.6 - 0.7 km/liter LESS than the onboard computer

its approximate +- actually!
sometimes manual gives more than odo and vice versa

[waleed80]

its approximate +- actually!
sometimes manual gives more than odo and vice versa

must be so. all depends upon how much u fill the tank each time. some ppl just leave it the moment the auto cut-off is reached on petrol pumps. some make sure they fill it to the brim (which is like 2-3 liters more than the auto shut down) . so yes it can vary.

[asimm76]

@ahmad
great mileage!
this is same mileage people get from 1.6 mt altis!

1.6 Altis is giving 13-15km/litre in lahore city dirving with a/c on 100% ?

[asimm76]

@ahmad-yar... which security products are u using for both ur cars

[buntu]

1.6 Altis is giving 13-15km/litre in lahore city dirving with a/c on 100% ?

search thru forums u'll get answers, collective avgs from all forums come out to b 12-14 kms
bhai agar 1.3l hawai jahaz say log 12+ acheive kar saktay hain tou altis say karna mushkil nie!

[buntu]

must be so. all depends upon how much u fill the tank each time. some ppl just leave it the moment the auto cut-off is reached on petrol pumps. some make sure they fill it to the brim (which is like 2-3 liters more than the auto shut down) . so yes it can vary.

exactly...

[ahmad_yar]

as per my city onboard computer, my car is regularly giving me 14.5 km/liter in hundred percent city drive with 100 percent AC on, even on chowks and traffic signals. on long route (only went on GT road once), it gives me 21 km/liter with 100 percent AC on @speed of 100 km/hr. moreover, my car is only driven 3000 kilometers till now, and is running on the engine oil which came with it when the car was delivered. planning to switch over to Mobil 1 fully synthetic now. hopefully it would improve more, or it wont ? comments please. cause usman (detailer) bro is not a very big fan of fully synthetic oils for some reason

waleed bhai
ur city giving good millage mashallha, my rolla with syn oil giving a km + millage and better accelration, well here on pw differnt openions like some say syn oils good and some says mineral oils so pls decide urself , overall i am satisfied and inshallha next week will change my city oil to mobil1 inshallha

[ahmad_yar]

@ahmad
great mileage!
this is same mileage people get from 1.6 mt altis!

1.6 Altis is giving 13-15km/litre in lahore city dirving with a/c on 100% ?

anyone pls guide me with avg millage of 2012 altis maual and 2012 reborn orial manual as well as reborn orial pros in city and on highway with ac ?

i am thinking to sell my rolla in few months and upgrade to any of one above said option
jazakallha

[ahmad_yar]

@ahmad-yar... which security products are u using for both ur cars

asim bhai my security products are "Aytal Kursi" and safer ki dua
well my cars usualy park under stricket parking security measures but still thinking to have desi talla at steering

[buntu]

asim bhai my security products are "Aytal Kursi" and safer ki dua
well my cars usualy park under stricket parking security measures but still thinking to have desi talla at steering

bhai jan , any sort of lock is not recommended by toyota and further they added , waranty will void!