Doubling you money every year?

[atharshah]

even if 30% its still lots of money. and which hotel you run? wanna come and eat at your hotel.

well again a very deep area.

even 30 % is a very good.

then again how is the glass ceiling effect.

how much can a business take.

etc etc etc

[atharshah]

bump bump bump

[DrJawad]

Bro if you want some good return,then you have to work hard,make a good plan,do your research and then put some serious effort.Farming is very profitable,plz do consider it,read a few books on agriculture,consult people and then analyse their statements thoughtfully.I once sat waith a farmer,who was saying that he could not safe enough from farming,i asked him to tell me all the inputs and outputs and we calculated that if one grows wheat he can earn upto 70% with only one crop,can you belief?Just sit down with someone and calculate.

[Xulfiqar]

Why dont you ask yourself a question. what are you good at? Basic rule of business is to do what you have command over.

Do not think that simple book keeping is the way, There are many verticals to consider. e.g. if you get into livestock, do you know anything about raising cattle for consumption purpose or are you going to rely on hired talent with hawk like book keeping.

wheres 2C when you need him, he has got extreme experience in business finance and analytics. HEY PW MODS unban him

[BackToCivicFaiez]

I think a hotel in place like defense H block or Y block is the golden hen if you have the initial investment.

Here is How.

according to my analysis an avg customer spends 200 to 500 in a restaurant. so if you have a 3 marla space rented and have capacity to seat 30 people at a time assuming average customer spends 250 rupees and also assume each customer occupies the space for 1 hour. then you make 250X30=7500 rs for an hour. now suppose you operate from 6 to 12 and assume you run on full capacity and still have some people in waiting list then you earn 7500X6= 45000 rs a day. which means your monthly revenues are 1350,000 (13 lac 50 thousand RS).
restaurants operate on 50% cost and 50% profit so your profit will be 675000 a month. so you get rich in no time.
you just need the initial investment, right people and right marketing to make your restaurant a success.

sir jee there's just one problem...

I have seen countless restaurants shut down due to many factors :

-khaney main makhi gir gayi etc, restaurant badnaam, people dont come now.

-its not gonna operate at 100% capacity as soon as you open it.

-you're gonna need a place where there is exposure. Such places dont cost like 50k a month, its more like several lacs. And you talk about defence, good commercial area is tough to find there (its already taken, the good stuff) and once you find some good place, its usually up for sale at 10 crore lol. or rent 5lacs/month etc...

-dont think about returns before you invest, think about how to operate the business in day to day operation, how to do it efficiently, and then consider the profits...

-you're gonna need good staff, cheff etc. someone who doesnt know these things may hire a not so good chef and run into problems...

-first year return is always much lesser, due to unexpected costs. You should have enough cash to cover all costs for atleast 6 months....

-there's always a risk of little success or loss. So you have to be prepared. You have probably only heard of the restaurant business success stories, but in recent times I have seen a large number of failures in this business....People come to this business thinking its easy money with little spare cash and f[_]k up and shut down...

( and hotel is something different from restaurant, you were talking restaurant, hotel business has little scope at small level )

[BackToCivicFaiez]

Why dont you ask yourself a question. what are you good at? Basic rule of business is to do what you have command over.

Do not think that simple book keeping is the way, There are many verticals to consider. e.g. if you get into livestock, do you know anything about raising cattle for consumption purpose or are you going to rely on hired talent with hawk like book keeping.

wheres 2C when you need him, he has got extreme experience in business finance and analytics. HEY PW MODS unban him

you are right, 2C would know alot...experienced accountants always know alot about what business is most profitable, he may not know 100% detail about every single procedure in doing the business but he can tell you if its feasible/viable or not...mods should let him comment on this thread if possible for limited time maybe...

[BackToCivicFaiez]

^^
Good advice.

@ OP

If you have 1.5 crores to invest i would suggest investing in essential commodities as atharshah recommended.

Controlled sheds (poultry farms) are a very profitable business but the investment is a bit more than your budget. On average a shed for 70'000 chicks will cost around 3+ crore. Returns are within 45 days cycles as chicks hatch & are sold. There are less risks with controlled sheds as everything is controlled from heat, humidity, to hygiene etc, so there is less risk of your chicks getting infected with diseases. As you know there is plenty of demand for chicken, it's an item that's in daily use everywhere.

Another similar & equally good business is for providing milk to various companies by importing swiss/australian cows. I'm not well versed on this business but i have heard that it is also in big demand & yields good profit margins.

As always no business is that easy, it requires time & experience. Make sure that you make a proper feasibility & take advice from professionals already in that line of business. Good luck.

source?

[digitalmohsin]

sir jee there's just one problem...

I have seen countless restaurants shut down due to many factors :

-khaney main makhi gir gayi etc, restaurant badnaam, people dont come now.

-its not gonna operate at 100% capacity as soon as you open it.

-you're gonna need a place where there is exposure. Such places dont cost like 50k a month, its more like several lacs. And you talk about defence, good commercial area is tough to find there (its already taken, the good stuff) and once you find some good place, its usually up for sale at 10 crore lol. or rent 5lacs/month etc...

-dont think about returns before you invest, think about how to operate the business in day to day operation, how to do it efficiently, and then consider the profits...

-you're gonna need good staff, cheff etc. someone who doesnt know these things may hire a not so good chef and run into problems...

-first year return is always much lesser, due to unexpected costs. You should have enough cash to cover all costs for atleast 6 months....

-there's always a risk of little success or loss. So you have to be prepared. You have probably only heard of the restaurant business success stories, but in recent times I have seen a large number of failures in this business....People come to this business thinking its easy money with little spare cash and f[_]k up and shut down...

( and hotel is something different from restaurant, you were talking restaurant, hotel business has little scope at small level )

yes you are right, according to my analysis a restaurant can break even in its second year of operations. the view of restaurants i provided was very simplistic view. in reality there are many variables which can cause huge troubles. but still a restaurant is a lucrative business in pak. the most imp thing is brand and taste. location matters quite less if you have a sexy name plus some really good food.

[Getafix]

Source of what? My figures? A friend is opening up a controlled shed near islamabad, he told me though it could be that my figures might be a little off as it was a while ago.

[atharshah]

Source of what? My figures? A friend is opening up a controlled shed near islamabad, he told me though it could be that my figures might be a little off as it was a while ago.

yar bro he can start with a small number

say 2000 chicks and then gradualy progress.

as most of his work will be out sourced.

but when it is 70 chicks then evry thing has to be taken care of by ur self.

there is a whole chain of duties

lol i wanted to open a dairy farm and a poultry farm.

but now im still intrested ina poultry farm

possibly 5000 chicks

the infrastructure and man power is also req

if u go for poultry ill give u a big thumbs up

[Getafix]

Both dairy & poultry farms are very good businesses. I don't remember the exact reason but there was some technicality behind the 70k number. I'll ask him the next time i see him. I'm also interested in both of these businesses, my brother is currently trying to get some feasibility reports for both.

[devilslayer]

I have done some research on both Control Shed and Livestock Business. Both are profitable bt in the long run Livestock business is more profitable than Poultry.

Control sheds needs lots of investments and Poultry rates fluctuate a lot bt still one can save around 250-300K in 40 days period

Livestock doesnt require dat mch of investment but needs strict supervision. Both dairy and meat business in Livestock have guud returns like around 30-40%.

[yasirkhanpk]

Poultry farming is pretty expensive plus it is not that easy. One disease and your whole lot will be gone. Plus the fluctuations in price.
Managing a poultry farm is pretty difficult and time consuming. I would not recommend anyone to go for poultry farming if he has no experience. Maybe a joint venture with someone who knows this business will be a good idea. There are many sides of a business which one does not see while sitting outside. We had a farm in Karachi for over 20 years and there are numerous problems. It is not always profits, you should be able to sustain losses as well.
Livestock farming is relatively better option than poultry. We have our lands and keep livestock animals too. Agriculture and livestock farming is good business, and with every other business one should not jump into it without analyzing and learning about that business. Don't look for profits only, in the beginning you make mistakes and should be prepared to suffer losses and should have the capacity to bare those losses. We all learn with experience.

[Getafix]

^^
Aren't risks of diseases reduced by having a controlled shed? That's what makes the project so expensive. No personal experience as such but my friend was telling me that even the person going inside the shed wears a special decontaminated suit to reduce risk of the chicks catching a disease. I guess it's better than having an old-school farm but even if a controlled shed reduces risks i guess it cannot eliminate them completely.

You're absolutely right about having to bear losses sometimes as well.

[getscorpion]

i would say chick business is very risky .... hv seen two of my frnds investment going into drain due to this disease thingy ..

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[Xulfiqar]

speaking of live chicks, Ive seen people do great in it and Ive seen people lose their shirt on it, the difference was the people not the business.

Similarly speaking of resturants - its not quite as simple as one thinks, resturanting requires that you scientifically break down to every component in the dishes and produce the same result every time - With desi cooking its not that simple - I know a few very successful resturant owners they have got a truckload of cooking experience with them and can reproduce the same taste in food every time with different chefs too. Then comes in the repute, quality and service.

[atharshah]

Hello all,
The title may have made some sort of curiosity for you. But here I will be discussing few opportunities & their expected returns. I also want other members to contribute to this task. If you know any such investment that produces double the investment, please share it with me. Here are some of my options:

P.S: I am a serious intended investor and I want to invest 1.5 carore rupees. So please help me in identifying perfect project to invest in. So guys please tell me the most profitable business/ investing opportunities, along with there:
1. Expected profit
2. Pros and cons

Best Regards

buddy wheare r u

we need ur ffeed back

[BackToCivicFaiez]

Source of what? My figures? A friend is opening up a controlled shed near islamabad, he told me though it could be that my figures might be a little off as it was a while ago.

yes it is off...