F/s toyota starlet kp61 rear wheel drive

[levin]

300,000 for a 1974 carb car - Identical One is avlbl at much less.

One 1987 Starlet 1.0 XL 5 door Hatchback EP70 - is avlbl at much lower price but she is in Islamabad with Jehlum Number.

awd isnt rwd, and fwd isnt rwd, ive seen all videos. ive heard all talks ,,i had my share of lectures when i was a kid. some guys need to wake up before posting, ep61 is not 74,, anyway you guys can convince yrself now,
others may be selling cheaper cars, but im not letting go of this one at yr price.

i hope this below is acceptable

." the car wont get sold at yr price, i will sell it for what i paid for it,, you can go buy all kias or whatever cars new or old you prefer and thankyou very much for looking at the ad.".

[wasay_ahmed]

finding such clean kp61 not at all easy

good luck bro

[fawi]

wish u best of luck sir

[fawi]

well @levin is having a tough time here... lets c what it comes out to be
i would like to see the conclusion.. since all this debate enhancing my knowledge..
winner would get a WATER COOLER

[datpak]

a car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.i bought a rx80 cressida for a similar price in january.

[fawi]

@datpak
o nice.. btw wheres the car now?? i mean rx80??

[datpak]

i have it brother.converting it to jzx81.

[fawi]

@datpak
MASHALLAH... Kindly keep us up to date with the project..!

[saadzae92]

@ levin

first of all best of luck on your sale

secondly being an (ex)owner and having learned driving on a KP60 (being my first car I can share your concern for this car)

but lets face the facts here and don't get sentimental

in this stock guise with its stock brakes and mushy suspension it cannot do jack S*it against a FWD EP starlet in any for of contest touge,drag whatever you throw at it.......yes the car has potential...........but that is upto the tuner in what car he sees the potential and knows what it can do.........its not a mainstream sort of a thing, YES true performance cars are RWD and FWD came as an economical solution to ditch the heavy gearboxes, propellor shafts and differentials in favour of a lighter unit that compromised of everything.......but after that FWD technology has come a long way.......you cannot underestimate FWD EP71, EP82 and EP91 GT turbo models these things are viscious monsters waiting to be unleased and buck for buck.........your average racer will go for a latter FWD option and save himself the hassle...........it'll take a complete purist like you, datpak etc to make this car into something formidable

but your foresight does not justify the price as you seem to be preacing the basics of RWD cars to people in the wrong nation.............only a few die hard RWD enthusiasts exist out there who might even consider this as an option but as the market is flooded these days with nice examples of RWD KE70's, TA22 Celicas, 1982 Carina and Coronas and old Cressidas below the 250K mark you tell me why must one choose your starlet in this price range over the others?

thank you.

[datpak]

@ saad
u remember the same starlet that suleman built with a 4efte?rememeber its fate?just being a rwd car is not jusitifcation for the price.

[capsat]

." the car wont get sold at yr price, i will sell it for what i paid for it,, you can go buy all kias or whatever cars new or old you prefer and thankyou very much for looking at the ad."

If you have paid 300,000.00 and believe you will get what you paid, I think you are living in a paradise and we wish you Good luck. we are better in Pakistan

[levin]

why you guys writing the whole story up there going offtopic comparing a small rwd car with everything you can think of.
just face the fact.
smaller rwd drifts better,, this can be a great drift car if built properly , its even more fun than yr brand new corolla.

i wont sell a proper built car for 300k, you can get basic thing, rest is upto you to trade off parts, buy perf parts. put in 500K or more on this car, your not children so dont think like them. dont want it, go discuss how to build kp61 in diy forums, or car comparisons. if you dont know what to do with kp61, you shouldnt be looking at this thread.lol

[fawi]

finally @levin returns...

[datpak]

small cars are not good for drifting.

[fawi]

@datpak
i agree... cars with longer wheel base are best fr drifting...!

[faisi001]

YouTube - Rear-Wheel Drive vs Front-Wheel Drive vs All-Wheel Drive
a small video to explain how rwd cars (properly weight distributed cars) are superior in handling in normal driving conditions .... this is a normal sale ad and why all this fuss about price and technical aspects of the design....

[saadzae92]

@ levin

lets compare the wheelbase and track of the "SUPER STARLET" with some the other popular drift cars........that are renowned for their drift control and max angles..........infact:D lets just stick to the wheelbase discussion for now

wheel base of a KP series STARLET wheelbase 91.5 in (2324 mm)

Wheelbase of a S14 Silvia 2525 mm (99.4 in)

Nissan Cefiro A31 Wheel base: 2670 mm

Mazda RX-7 FD3S wheelbase 95.5 in (2426 mm)

you can see a pattern emerging..............

Now I shall take you back to the basics of drifting and shed some light on an age old topic of the
"ideal wheelbase and the perfect drifting car"

it is very simple you see
the longer the wheel base the more progresive (usualy) the drift is not as fast and snappy as a short wheelbase car, therefore able to sustain longer drifts and match and link chain drifting techniques such as "manji" drifting
the truth is what people call drifting on a small wheelbase RWD cars are actually short powerslides and there is a considerable difference in a powerslide and a proper drift and that is the case with this car aswell even if it were to bear an AE111 4A-GE as a heart under its hood with a T50 mission and a limited slip diff. it'll only be able to manage small powerslides and don't show me youtube videos of KP60 starlets converted to AP60 starlets that are mad drifters..............those cars have literally mad steering angles and a more direct rack and pinion streeing rack to keep up with the snappy and erratic nature of a RWD short wheelbase car as told by Datpak(baqir) that a KP was done in peshawar a couple of years ago with a RWD 4E-FTE setup and for the rest of details you can ask baqir bhai yourself

I actually was interested in getting a 4A-GE T-VIS for my car but that car made me change my mind for good!

thank you.

[fawi]

@ levin

lets compare the wheelbase and track of the "SUPER STARLET" with some the other popular drift cars........that are renowned for their drift control and max angles..........infact:D lets just stick to the wheelbase discuss for now

wheel base of a KP series STARLET wheelbase 91.5 in (2324 mm)

Wheelbase of a S14 Silvia 2525 mm (99.4 in)

Nissan Cefiro A31 Wheel base: 2670 mm

Mazda RX-7 FD3S wheelbase 95.5 in (2426 mm)

you can see a pattern emerging..............

Now I shall take you back to the basics of drifting and shed some light on an age old topic of the
"ideal wheelbase and the perfect drifting car"

it is very simple you see
the longer the wheel base the more progresive (usualy) the drift is not as fast and snappy as a short wheelbase car, therefore able to sustain longer drifts and match and link chain drifting techniques such as "manji" drifting
the truth is what people call drifting on a small wheelbase RWD cars are actually short powerslides and there is aconsiderable difference in a powerslide and a proper drift and that is the case with this car aswell even if it were to bear an AE111 4A-GE as a hear with a T50 mission and a limited slip diff. it'll only be able to manage small powerslides and don't show me youtube videos of KP60 starlets converted to AP60 starlets that are mad drifters..............those cars have literally mad steering angles and a more direct rack and pinion streeing rack to keep up with the snappy and erratic nature of a RWD short wheelbase car as told by Datpak(baqir) that a KP was done in peshawar a couple of years ago with a RWD 4E-FTE setup and for the rest of details you can ask baqir bhai yourself

I actually was interested in getting a 4A-GE T-VIS for my car but that car made me change my mind for good!

thank you.

+1 sir
now lets listen to levin

[levin]

all i am saying if you guys are quoting a low price, i cant entertain it.

rest all is say is ok by me.

[fawi]

all i am saying if you guys are quoting a low price, i cant entertain it.

rest all is say is ok by me.

levin doesnt hav an asnwer amazing