Fraud Alert R1

[VCheng]

Guys, please calm down, everyone.

Real friends are not those who do not have issues, but those who work to resolve any issues in a positive way.

I do have a question:

How was the item is question sent? Was it insured by the courier used or not?

[BlueHorn]

Thanks for replying here. First of all let me clear that there was no need to take snapshot. The MODS can easily look at my activity and know what I am doing.

Second, more than you I dont believe that R1 is doing such a thing. He was a very nice guy. This is why I never asked him to pay upfront. I dont know why he started sending these abusive PMs to me. And what I further dont understand is whh he is mentioning your name when he PMs me.
I think Amjad had helped us establish that this is not the first time he has used abusive language towards a member.
I dont know what happened between you and R1. I regret that I heard his version of the story and believed him.

Well as far as Silver_Knife is concerned, Although we have some sittings together and made trips together but there was no issue of money at all between us.. Iam a student and i know my limits !!! so spent realizing my boundries. And if someone is saying that i have spent on silver_knife and he's indebted to me !! Than my reply would be iam not wadaira ke beta, iam a student belonging to middle class and i can spend realizing me boundries and even R1 can justify this fact that i always tried my level best to afford the gathering financially as much as i can.

About the helmet.. I bought it for 1500rs from R1 on payment.. He can testify it !! Neither he asked for money neither he counted it while taking the money.

I have dealt online many times, Vickytulla once sent my tube for my R.Piaggio which costed me 500rs with shipping. I paid hum via mobile card. I delt thousand of time on PG and no fraud so far.

Iam not having soft corner for BH or R1.. Iam just evaluating on the base of my experience.. R1 cant do such fraud for 1500-2000 rs... Thats what my personel evaluation is !! I once taken 1000rs from R1 as i was in damn need, afterwards we have some clash i msged him about the money as wanted to return it and i messaged him like 4 times and pm'd 2 times that take the money and he replied" Take that as a gift from elder brother or distribute the amount among beggers"

Although he really used that to hurt my reputation on PW, there may be something personel between you guys but this matter is not about money or fraud.

I have taken the snapshot of this post.. If you edit or remove it, i'll surely report it to LIBRA to get rid of your thread moderating rights !!

[chdemon]

Bhaya kuch to garbar hay.... see he is saying that he gifted you exhaust and helmet to SK... kuch to garbar hay na jani. 1 banda agar gift day sakta hay to woh is kay pesay bhi day hi sakta hoga. i would love to listen to R1 as well that what he says about this.

Look at some message from Fraudster R1

[BlueHorn]

Guys, please calm down, everyone.

Real friends are not those who do not have issues, but those who work to resolve any issues in a positive way.

I do have a question:

How was the item is question sent? Was it insured by the courier used or not?

Brother the item was sent via Leopard Courier. It was uninsured item. I had attached receipt of item as well. R1 received it and didnt complain. Few days passed and he stopped answering my calls so I asked a friend to call him to whom R1 said that meter's mirror was cracked but he will pay the amount.

Now he has done a complete u-turn and saying he will not pay as whole meter was broke. Brother is it my fault that item was damaged in transit? I think my fault is that I trusted him and didnt ask for payment first.

One more thing, you are a MOD, so you can check my inbox and see how much he has abused me. If you like I can PM you my log in details so you can see my inbox. Other members are now also saying that R1 has sent them abusive PMs before.

[AZEEMMAJEED]

I would say just this it takes whole life to make reputation and just a second too desteoy it

[chdemon]

@BlueHorn, dont know much about any of you guyz @R1 or @SK or @you. but after @silver knife's reply, i am in doubt that its metter of money to R1. its personal for you guyz i am pretty sure. he can pay i am sure. and he will pay dont worry. wait for asia's rider. good luck and no hard feelings bro.

[VCheng]

Brother the item was sent via Leopard Courier. It was uninsured item. I had attached receipt of item as well. R1 received it and didnt complain. Few days passed and he stopped answering my calls so I asked a friend to call him to whom R1 said that meter's mirror was cracked but he will pay the amount.

Now he has done a complete u-turn and saying he will not pay as whole meter was broke. Brother is it my fault that item was damaged in transit? I think my fault is that I trusted him and didnt ask for payment first..........

It seems to me both parties are fighting over something that was likely caused by the Courier company.

[Rex_K]

So Sad to know about your tragic story.

[BlueHorn]

@BlueHorn, dont know much about any of you guyz @R1 or @SK or @you. but after @silver knife's reply, i am in doubt that its metter of money to R1. its personal for you guyz i am pretty sure. he can pay i am sure. and he will pay dont worry. wait for asia's rider. good luck and no hard feelings bro.

Brother not paying is one thing. But to start abusing me is another. First he doenst pay and instead to feel ashamed he starts using foul language. What kind of a person does that?!
I think he has some problem this is why first his friend SK left him and now me.

It seems to me both parties are fighting over something that was likely caused by the Courier company.

Brother suppose that meter was 100% broken and R1 received junk. But he didnt pay anything for it so why is he using very foul and abusive language?! I think that shows his true colours and character.

And brother I am not fighting. I am here to inform others to not make same mistake. If you look at this thread you will see that today another member almost did same mistake but my thread made him re-think. This is the purpose of this thread and not to indulge in fight with anyone.

[amjad635]

Abusive language & threats viva p.m is strictly against P.W rules
Abusive language shows the character of person

[BlueHorn]

too early to reply.... but wud u mind stating the amount ????

@all - Brothers the amount is not very much. But the intention of this thread is not to collect the amount (to which I have said 'ALLAH MALIK") but it is to inform others so that you may be saved from such fraud. If VickyTulla had shared those abusive PMs with us and if other members (like SK) had shared their experience with R1 then I may have been more vigilant in my dealings with him.
So I am sharing to let members know about R1. I hope he is unable to pull fraud with any other member.
Inshallah HE(Allah) is watching all.

[krgemini]

I think the silence of R1 till now is self explanatory to all to us, rest Allah knows better.

[amjad635]

Those abusive p.m massages are my big concern

[Durrani_45]

blue horn bro plz wait let r1 come a d justify himself i dont know who is wrong and right bit being a senior member r1 should have sent u money first

[BlueHorn]

Those abusive p.m massages are my big concern

I wish other members who received such messages should have also come forward to name and shame.

blue horn bro plz wait let r1 come a d justify himself i dont know who is wrong and right bit being a senior member r1 should have sent u money first

Brother he has already replied to me on PMs. What justification is for someone to ask for their money and you (R1) start abusing them and their families?!!

That was my fault to trust him and not ask money beforehand. It is a lesson learned for me ... the hard way.

[vickytulla]

I will not talk much in this thread, but to approve what Amjad said please have a look below, if Hanif Bhatti(libra) didnt blocked him and warned him, I had to think on other plans to get him down, then one of the senior moderator Tahir (who is my office buddy as well) jumped in and calm me down.

every senior member know about it I didnt shared it with Hidalgo because I didnt wanted him to feel bad as he is also a good friend of R1, I hoope he is not trapped by R1 too.

After this I learned what breed he belongs too... I am sharing it here for every body to know and stay away form him, specially who think he is a nice guy.

And let me Glorify the back ground behind this PM, he cannot stand for a split second in front of other point of view.
The only reason was that my point of view is that CG125 is an old fashioned bike in some forum post and look what was his response and specially from PM so that no body else know what he is being doing...

I also talked to talal[7thGear] and Malik Zahid and told them that me along with alot of other guys never joined PBC and Asia Riders MeetUp because this category mobsters exist in it, how can we go there when people like him are in those groups.

Even if he comes here and explains, but what about abusive messages ? I cannot forgive him until he apologizes publicly.

The real Face :

BlueHorn You were good friend of R1
Why is he doing this just for some money?
BlueHorn its not only you who he has abused viva p.m
He had badly abused Vicky viva p.m for which he was banned for some days
Vicky had shared evidence with me also very bad abusive language was used
I was shocked by this act of R1, Now he doing fruad with you being your friend
Very Very shocked Very Very Sad. loosing dignity for some hundred rupees

He seems a good person chats good on forum & helps
very shocking ALLAH PAK JAANE LOGON KI DILON KO

ALLAH ALMIGHTY IS WATCHING ALL OF US DOING BAD DEEDS
HE KNOWS ALL, WE MAY CHEAT PEOPLE BUT CAN'T CHEAT OUR CREATOR
ALMIGHTY ALLAH SEEING ALL

[Durrani_45]

there is a member who has to pay around 23k from past 4months and is a very active member he doesnot attend my call nor he replies txtes and pms I would say him bro plz send me the tokken money i am in need not going to disclose the name but plz

[vickytulla]

I just shared one of them, Dont have time to waste on a fraud guy.

I wish other members who received such messages should have also come forward to name and shame.

Brother he has already replied to me on PMs. What justification is for someone to ask for their money and you (R1) start abusing them and their families?!!

That was my fault to trust him and not ask money beforehand. It is a lesson learned for me ... the hard way.

[vickytulla]

Oh my God, I hope you get it soon, I cannot believe it is really happening on PW.

there is a member who has to pay around 23k from past 4months and is a very active member he doesnot attend my call nor he replies txtes and pms I would say him bro plz send me the tokken money i am in need not going to disclose the name but plz

[Teeboyuk]

I think he was talking to all of us on that one...