G100 4age vs 2zzge vs b16a

[Hassan1991]

4efte is way too old now.
You may need to rebuild immediately after sourcing it.
2zzge is new. And n/a always has a wide power band.

[sardarg]

does G100 have enough engine bay space to swallow any of these engines? What about engine mount positions, suspension and on top the STOP distance for vehicle under such power at any given speed.

[Xulfiqar]

G100 has tiny brakes as its a tiny econobox car.

[jdolondriz]

Thank you for the responses. @Xulfiqar I was also thinking of converting front wheel assembly to accomodate bigger brakes. @sardarg Right now Im still gathering info on the engine before I make decisions for the 2nd charade engine swap. Ive seen 4age and 4efte swaps in our country but 2zz, not yet. Still not sure about the clearance of 2zz in engine bay.

I really appreciate the raising of risks and problems as these are things I will also look into.

@Hassan1991
Reason for bringing 4efte in the conversation is because its cheaper and could be upgraded to get same power of 2zz. But i agree with you, 2zz is newer and would be a better choice.

4g63t engines? I believe they are too big and heavy for the charade? This is also cheaper in our country, 4g63t from RVR's and not the evo ones.

[Xulfiqar]

There was a 4g63t conversion including entire driveline done to a mitsi fto in Karachi a long time ago,

That car is pretty tiny, and with the evo driveline was an absolute maniacal devil, ive seen a g100 evo conversion too, but it broke more than it ever ran.

[jdolondriz]

Thank you for the insights. I think evo g100 will only be good for racing then.

[Hassan1991]

Yes turbo engines comes with added wait.
Although they are not big just heavy.
Why not a k series? You can make good power keeping it n/a.

[jdolondriz]

@Hassan1991
K series of honda? k20? anyone swapped it onto a g100? does it fit?

btw, which k series? I believe they have different hp numbers. and if you are pertaining to type R versions, i believe it is quite expensive here

[Hassan1991]

Size wise it's just a normal inline 4 engine.
Talking about k24a RBB. Then you can slap a k20a head on it to make quite good numbers. Even in stock form it's good enough.
I swapped it in corolla.

[jdolondriz]

Have you seen anyone fit it in g100?

[Hassan1991]

I have seen 3sgte, 2zzge, f20b, 4age and 3sge.
Not a k24 yet or might be done already.... but i haven't seen in person.

[jdolondriz]

would'nt the k24 be heavy compared to other engines?

[Hassan1991]

No, it weighs 160-170kg with 6 speed transmission.
But 6 speed comes with it's own hassle. Occupy too much space.
But that torque will rip your chassis.

[jdolondriz]

would that mean that if i go withk24 rbb, i should get 6 speed trans?

[Hassan1991]

No get 5 speed transmission.

[jdolondriz]

While searching, i saw a k24 swapped charade in youtube but the radiator is alreadybfitter outside of the bumper. Is this the case for all k24 swapped charade? Is there a way for the radiator and condenser be placed inside the body/hood/bumper?

[Hassan1991]

Yes you can. Eg/Ek civic radiators are pretty small.
Not sure about condenser fitment.

[Xulfiqar]

Anything is possible for a craftsman.

For crazy radiator placement, have a look at audi 5000 engine bay.

[jdolondriz]

is this the one where the radiator is placed around the left headlight?

[Xulfiqar]

Yes, that one,

Point being that a radiator can be placed in many weird positions, audi did it behind a headlamp, mazda slanted it on the rx7 and 8

VW golf mk2 had it placed crooked so it was halfway under the front fascia frame and halfway in the engine bay.