Haval " H6 " Dedicated Discussion, Owner/ Fan Club Thread

[pwuser163673737661]

I searched a bit on internet and usually GT version came up when it comes to PHEV. I don't think they are going to lauch GT version here. Can anyone share a link of any good review of the exact version which is going to be launched here?

[darthvader]

The version they're launching here doesn't exist anywhere. Everywhere I've checked it's either the GT PHEV or the PHEV in the older shape.

[pwuser167550015690]

Pakistan was the first RHD market to get the regular FL and is also the first market to get the FL PHEV. Australia will be the close second which should start to see deliveries soon.

For LHD, you can find the PHEV in markets like South and Latin America.

[alitayyab]

The Aussies have a FL AWD PHEV. Thai's have a FL PHEV that is FWD (at-least that is what i gather from the specs, since there is only 1 motor). There are subtle difference between the two (no front parking sensors/ autonomous parking or reverse in the Aussie version, 4 in rear as compared to 6/6 in thai), but they are both AWD PHEV FL

https://assets.gwmanz.com/f/256395/x/aafa4ec972/h6_brochure_au.pdf

https://www.gwm.co.th/content/dam/gwm/pages/th/en/model/haval-h6-hev/h6-specification-en-0626.pdf

Aussie:

Thai

However both do get a 9 speaker system

I'll hold out until the sensor situation is clear. Yes, I am very OCD about parking sensors.

[pwuser167550015690]

I actually use auto-park quite frequently so it's definitely a deal-breaker for me as well.

[darthvader]

These specs seem to be all over the place. The battery size on the first link is 19kwh for PHEV. On the TH link it's 27kwh.

[user9099]

How long did it take for you all to receive your H6 1.5T facelift? It's been exactly 2.5 months and still haven't received my car while I was promised to get it within 2 months, how was your experience?

[imtiaz.omer]

It normally gets delivered a month after making full payment. What's your booking date and full payment date? Also which city?

[user9099]

Booking was done on 15th May, and payment was made on 7th July. The delay in payment was from their side as my payment was ready, but no allocation was given until 4th July.

[pwuser163673737661]

This is interesting, this account which says it's official but it isn't have almost all videos from Pakistan. They have posted a video which is of H6 GT. below is link. Am i missing something?
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSSfQYs2k/

[darthvader]

Lol just because it says official doesn't mean it's official

[mgwattoo2]

this is exactly what he is saying, although it looks like video is from Pakistan.

[AABBDDuullaahh]

Very true about the margins

I see whenever we talk about Sazgars absurd profits on the H6 HEV everyone on the forum jumps to attack the person. While i understand the demand suggests people are happy paying that amount, yet the ones with a bit of sense and brain have the right to cross check pricing with other markets and make their comment

Just recently i checked the Australian market and the prices were as follows:

MG HS PHEV (Tope trim : comparable to our local): ~38000 AUD (old shape same as ours, was discounted at this price)
Honda HRV hybrid (mid trim : almost nearer to our spec): ~38,000 AUD
Haval H6 HEV (LUX trim : comparable to our spec) : 38000.AUD

all cars are being sold as ckds here in pk. All have the exact same duty structure due to engine size and also similar international pricing. Yet honda and mg are selling in 9_9.5mil bracket. Yet H6 hev is at 11.7mil. I just cannot see one justifiable reason for the 2.2mil difference. 400_700k might have made sense. But 2+mil surely shows the amount of profits they're making off of each unit (and maybe dispensing some on marketing).
But then again, that's just my view and the biggest reason I've stayed away from Haval, until they decide to bring it to the VFM segment. And it has nothing to do with people's choice, everyones free to spend their money on whatever they think deserves their hard earned cash.

I love the PHEV though due to the powertrain, but will wait for other more sensible options to be released, since yet again, 12.9mil isn't exactly value for money just for the acceleration

[mgalaxy3]

@AABBDDuullaahh you’re right

Profit margins seem to be huge. Priced very high.

[alitayyab]

MG HS PHEV

The Haval HEV trim we get is comparable to Ultra Hybrid 2WD not Lux. The Lux trim lacks

1. Autonomous parking + reverse
2. Fewer parking sensors (front 4 on the Lux compared to 6 on the Ultra and PKDM)
3. THe Lux variant doesn't have a moon roof either. Infact it is a hardtop
4. Other minor stuff thats in the specs

the specs are here (i have posted them before as well).

For the FL, the car is now on feature parity with the Aussie RHD FL HEV. If out PHEV gets autonomous driving and parking and 6 front parking sensors, we would be getter a better equipped PHEV than what is listed on GWM ANZ website.

https://assets.gwmanz.com/f/256395/x/aafa4ec972/h6_brochure_au.pdf

The price of the Ultra Hyrbid is 44,000 AUD.

As for pricing and profits. Toyota and Honda as well as Suzuki were and to an extent still are, are/ were ripping us off. It is only the entry of Haval and to an extent MG and Changan that have made them revisit their thinking.

The Cross came in very close to the HEV, only to drop back after it failed to gain traction. I think it is now nearly 3 million cheaper for the hybrid variant when it was launched. The non hybrid HRVs have dropped in price but have gained ADAS features.

Even now when the big three launch a new vehicle, they tend to offer stripped down versions. Look at the recent HRV, they stripped the eHEV of the Dual zone A/C. They do not offer rear parking sensors on any of the versions and the rear camera of the current lineup is static. The Thai PKDM last gen HRV offered rear parking sensors as well as dynamic guidelines. The cross launched without any Level 2 ADAS which the haval was already offering.

Now imagine had these new players (i am not counting Lucky or Nishat, since except for the tucson, they are both living in lala land with their pricing structure, esp lucky). We would be getting much, much higher prices for a even a way poorly equipped car since their would have been no competition.

So yes, sazgar (and MG and Master Motors) have arguably higher (very high) profit margins. But haval introduced so much to Pakistani market in terms what a fully loaded car feels like to drive unlike any other car manufacturer before.

[ArslanNawaz]

I understand their profits to be high but they gambled a lot investing in a poor country like this. So the risk they took they're taking full advantage of that. Now their lineup is pretty strong from 80 lack to 140 they have a haval for everyone.
And to add to that they launched fully loaded vehicles which never happened in this country and forced other companies to introduce fully loaded vehicles too. Honda thought they'd strip out the hrv and launch it and people will buy it still cause it's honda, but they failed miserably and now they're launched hrv again with quite a lot of features. Corolla cross has constant price drops. Fortuner and revo getting new features without any price change etc etc.
Haval now has set a good trend.

[mgwattoo2]

This video is interesting, it's a H6 PHEV FL version but with a boss seat as well as the full body tail light that was an exclusive to the pre FL version. At 2:17 buttons on steering are also different worth noticing the red brake calipers as well

[pwuser167550015690]

Haval H6 HEV (LUX trim : comparable to our spec) : 38000.AUD

Just this suggests you're not really paying attention when you are comparing the models. The H6 we get is top of the line variant, which compares to the Ultra spec in the ANZ market, which costs about 16% more than the Lux.

MG HS PHEV's "official" price in Pakistan is quoted at PKR 9.9 million (they keep extending the "promotional" price of PKR 9.7 million but not sure if they've done it past the July 31 date).

So assuming the previous gen HS PHEV did cost the same as the H6 Lux variant in Australia (it did in Thai market, last I checked when HS PHEV was launched here), then PKR 9.9 million + 16% = PKR 11.49, which isn't that far off from the PKR 11.75 price for the H6 HEV in Pakistan either.

Yes, Sazgar is 1000% charging a premium and enjoying higher margins on H6 in Pakistan than GWM does in other markets, but it's up to the other manufacturers to step up their game and undercut their price with a better product to force their hand.

[pwuser167550015690]

This is the Thai spec variant.

They had a slightly different localized FL that retained some of the features of the pre-FL variant (light bar, boss seats etc.) and gained some additional features from the Chinese FL (the new GWM steering wheel and a Coffee OS 3.0 based infotainment platform) while adding completely new ones (red brake calipers, side steps etc.).

[mgwattoo2]

Thanks for the info, side steps, red calipers, new buttons looks cools though.