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[alikhan7]

Bro go for Sazuki GD110s it have powerful engine and nice speed then yamaha ybrg is under power bike due to overweight only have good look no power

Some riders took their YBR G till Khunjerab pass, We have to ask about their experience, did they face any difficulties climbing upward. I guess some riders traveled from Lahore till Naran in one day.

[asad01]

Some riders took their YBR G till Khunjerab pass, We have to ask about their experience, did they face any difficulties climbing upward. I guess some riders traveled from Lahore till Naran in one day.

If you are talking about metalled roads, even a 70cc bike can go to Khunjerab pass. My brother's friend rode from Lahore to Abbottabad on a very old c70 (not cd70) in one day and rode to Gilgit the next day. Any 100cc bike would be fine, 125cc or 150cc would be better.

It all depends whether you are going to ride off-road or jeep tracks, and I mean real jeep tracks in the north with big stones on the dirt road like Sharda-Jalkhad and others. In which case looks are no help at all. GS150 has higher ground clearance and spoke wheels which suit off-road or jeep tracks. But you can do it later with a bigger dual purpose bike.

You must try both YBR125 and GS150 to check which has a posture that suits you. After five or six hours of riding within seven or eight hours, a comfortable posture lets you ride for another two or three hours.

Top Speed: If you want to ride at 100kph you should get a 200cc-250cc bike. 125/150 cc bikes are good at 60kph to 80kph (approximately 50% - 66% of manufacturer's suggested maximum speed) and 70kph to 90kph for a short spell for overtaking.

[alikhan7]

If you are talking about metalled roads, even a 70cc bike can go to Khunjerab pass. My brother's friend rode from Lahore to Abbottabad on a very old c70 (not cd70) in one day and rode to Gilgit the next day. Any 100cc bike would be fine, 125cc or 150cc would be better.

It all depends whether you are going to ride off-road or jeep tracks, and I mean real jeep tracks in the north with big stones on the dirt road like Sharda-Jalkhad and others. In which case looks are no help at all. GS150 has higher ground clearance and spoke wheels which suit off-road or jeep tracks. But you can do it later with a bigger dual purpose bike.

You must try both YBR125 and GS150 to check which has a posture that suits you. After five or six hours of riding within seven or eight hours, a comfortable posture lets you ride for another two or three hours.

Top Speed: If you want to ride at 100kph you should get a 200cc-250cc bike. 125/150 cc bikes are good at 60kph to 80kph (approximately 50% - 66% of manufacturer's suggested maximum speed) and 70kph to 90kph for a short spell for overtaking.

Brother do u recommend any 200cc-250cc bike which I can use as my first bike

i personally drove Suzuki GS 150 Saturday night and it sound and drive really nice but after 20-30 min i feel stressed in lower back,
secondly braking is also not too good.

I couldn't drove YBR G as dealer ship doesn't have one for test drive.I am actually more inclined toward comfort and safety

Yes I 100% agree with you 80km/h should be maximum cruise speed on 125 cc bike,you could take till 90 while overtaking.

another aspect of having zero meter local bikes is availability of parts and maintenance.

Another reason I dont want to get higher CC bike right now because it would be risk on loosing money as I have limited biking experience.

Thanks

[alikhan7]

IS the any YBR G owner with long route experience who could answer my queries

[wkb143]

for Comfort Pridor and GD110s are best GD110s in equal to 125cc because of OHV engine Technology and butterfly carburetor

[alikhan7]

I talked to Yamaha dealership and they told that new model YZF-R15 is going to be launch in December

price is 189000

[haroon_1]

Go for Inazuma type thing, if you can afford, you will probably get one around 5 lacs, best value for money. very good grip, best for touring and normal use, if budget is issue then go for gs150..

[alikhan7]

Go for Inazuma type thing, if you can afford, you will probably get one around 5 lacs, best value for money. very good grip, best for touring and normal use, if budget is issue then go for gs150..

Brother I have limited biking experience, I will spend 5 lacs after I learn on lower cc bike first.
SUZUKI GS 150 seating position doesn't suits me due to height 6"1

I am asking about YBR G (can it work as first bike and for just one long tour)

[angel82]

@alikhan7 I agree with your approach. Try and learn on smaller cc bike first. It will tell you how your body and mind react on long tours and biking is your thing or not.

I won't recommend getting a bike lesser 125 cc. YBR G is more comfortable than GS 150 and yes it got looks too. You won't need to change tyres in YBR G as it already got good gripping tyres.

All bikes are under powered in Pakistan. Only CG 125 gives little speedy feeling because of its power to weight ratio but it lacks badly in safety and comfort.

YBR G can good you good cruising speed of 80 to 85 and i believe that is enough considering to Pakistani road conditions and traffic.

For bigger bikes don't yet think about it. just get yourself used to the first bike you purchase and get yourself engaged with some local YBR Groups there are many groups on Facebook you can search for some. Soon you'll get pros and cons of every bike.

and in future if you feel that biking is your thing and you have bugdet then go for a proper adventure bike. Like GS650F or Zongshen RX3 or even a good Trail bike from Honda or Suzuki. Don't go for inazuma CBR you'll waste your money.

Welcome to the biking world

[akhan911]

+1 to that

@alikhan7 I agree with your approach. Try and learn on smaller cc bike first. It will tell you how your body and mind react on long tours and biking is your thing or not.

I won't recommend getting a bike lesser 125 cc. YBR G is more comfortable than GS 150 and yes it got looks too. You won't need to change tyres in YBR G as it already got good gripping tyres.

All bikes are under powered in Pakistan. Only CG 125 gives little speedy feeling because of its power to weight ratio but it lacks badly in safety and comfort.

YBR G can good you good cruising speed of 80 to 85 and i believe that is enough considering to Pakistani road conditions and traffic.

For bigger bikes don't yet think about it. just get yourself used to the first bike you purchase and get yourself engaged with some local YBR Groups there are many groups on Facebook you can search for some. Soon you'll get pros and cons of every bike.

and in future if you feel that biking is your thing and you have bugdet then go for a proper adventure bike. Like GS650F or Zongshen RX3 or even a good Trail bike from Honda or Suzuki. Don't go for inazuma CBR you'll waste your money.

Welcome to the biking world

[alikhan7]

@alikhan7 I agree with your approach. Try and learn on smaller cc bike first. It will tell you how your body and mind react on long tours and biking is your thing or not.

I won't recommend getting a bike lesser 125 cc. YBR G is more comfortable than GS 150 and yes it got looks too. You won't need to change tyres in YBR G as it already got good gripping tyres.

All bikes are under powered in Pakistan. Only CG 125 gives little speedy feeling because of its power to weight ratio but it lacks badly in safety and comfort.

YBR G can good you good cruising speed of 80 to 85 and i believe that is enough considering to Pakistani road conditions and traffic.

For bigger bikes don't yet think about it. just get yourself used to the first bike you purchase and get yourself engaged with some local YBR Groups there are many groups on Facebook you can search for some. Soon you'll get pros and cons of every bike.

and in future if you feel that biking is your thing and you have bugdet then go for a proper adventure bike. Like GS650F or Zongshen RX3 or even a good Trail bike from Honda or Suzuki. Don't go for inazuma CBR you'll waste your money.

Welcome to the biking world

Thanks brother for your encouraging remarks.I have made my mind to go for YBR G black.
I will do some customization i.e (Ralco tyres,Wind shield,Race guards)

Any suggestions?

1- Which helmet i should buy (5000 budget)
2- Other protection (10,000 budget)
3- Tires (5000 budget)

I also checked Zongshen RX3 it seems very suitable for me in future,I hope some one is going to sell it in Pakistan with services/spare

Thanks

[angel82]

Thanks brother for your encouraging remarks.I have made my mind to go for YBR G black.
I will do some customization i.e (Ralco tyres,Wind shield,Race guards)

Any suggestions?

1- Which helmet i should buy (5000 budget)
2- Other protection (10,000 budget)
3- Tires (5000 budget)

I also checked Zongshen RX3 it seems very suitable for me in future,I hope some one is going to sell it in Pakistan with services/spare

Thanks

1- Which helmet i should buy (5000 budget) In this Budget, You can consider Sutdds Helmet they are very Rigid and properly engineered. Many riders are using it and very satisfied. Vohra autos are their authorized dealer in Pakistan. You can search on FB page .
2- Other protection (10,000 budget).
Riding gloves for sure.
initially You can consider fulll body armor with Albow, Knee pads. SOmething like this

or go for Full Paded Jacket and Trouser that is wind and water proof but it would be expensive if you buy new and imported one.

3- Tires (5000 budget)
YBR G's stock tyres are more than enough for it and they don't slip easily. I don't think you need a tyre upgrade at this level but still if you want then Ralco Speed blaster 100/90 18" (Rs.4500) is a good choice. I have used it in my DR250 for few 100 KM before i got a proper trail tyre and they are very good choice.

There are some Lads who are getting RX3 in Pakistan. I can guide you if you want.

[angel82]

Plus you should get Panniers and Trunk if you wanna enjoy touring.

[alikhan7]

Plus you should get Panniers and Trunk if you wanna enjoy touring.

 <a href='https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/user/angel82'>@angel82</a>

Now I believe bike riders are more cooperative then car riders (Just kidding)
Thanks for your valuable feedback brother.

There are some Lads who are getting RX3 in Pakistan. I can guide you if you want. (Definitely)

[alikhan7]

@angel82

Now I believe bike riders are more cooperative then car riders (Just kidding)
Thanks for your valuable feedback brother.

There are some Lads who are getting RX3 in Pakistan. I can guide you if you want. (Definitely)

Any thoughts on 250 G storm
Suzuki G-Storm 250 to be based on Inazuma | Shifting-Gears

[deltree]

I talked to Yamaha dealership and they told that new model YZF-R15 is going to be launch in December

price is 189000

Bhai apkay moun mein ghee shakar jo aisa hogaya tou kia baat hai....issay behtar khabar ho nai sakti

[angel82]

Any thoughts on 250 G storm
Suzuki G-Storm 250 to be based on Inazuma | Shifting-Gears

Don't get caught chasing the rumors. This bike hasn't been even launched yet. No one know how it gonna perform. Buy an authentic and tested machine that has been famous among adventure riders already. Secondly you can't expect much of low end torque from a twin cylinder in 250cc category. Such Low end torque can be given by a single cylinder only.

[alikhan7]

Don't get caught chasing the rumors. This bike hasn't been even launched yet. No one know how it gonna perform. Buy an authentic and tested machine that has been famous among adventure riders already. Secondly you can't expect much of low end torque from a twin cylinder in 250cc category. Such Low end torque can be given by a single cylinder only.

"you can't expect much of low end torque from a twin cylinder in 250cc category." 100% correct

At the moment I guess Zingshong RX3 seems to be economical and suitable options for travelers. I talked to Mr Zubair (Sigma Bikes) in detail , he seems to be very nice and humble as he answered all my queries regarding RX3 import and price.

Price is :500,000 RS (Carb)

He mentioned that considering local mechanic expert level carby version is more suitable for our environment and tough which i agree up to some extent.

Mr Zubair visted china multiple times and he mentioned that RX3 has only two variants (carb ad efi) and quality is same weather its USA import or local only difference is USA importer which offers more features.

now we have to see how much successful and popular this bike could be but i am seriously considering it after 4-5 months

[angel82]

"you can't expect much of low end torque from a twin cylinder in 250cc category." 100% correct

At the moment I guess Zingshong RX3 seems to be economical and suitable options for travelers. I talked to Mr Zubair (Sigma Bikes) in detail , he seems to be very nice and humble as he answered all my queries regarding RX3 import and price.

Price is :500,000 RS (Carb)

He mentioned that considering local mechanic expert level carby version is more suitable for our environment and tough which i agree up to some extent.

Mr Zubair visted china multiple times and he mentioned that RX3 has only two variants (carb ad efi) and quality is same weather its USA import or local only difference is USA importer which offers more features.

now we have to see how much successful and popular this bike could be but i am seriously considering it after 4-5 months

You search and findings are spot on.

Just one correction.

RX3 got four variants. The one he is talking about are Chinese market variants. In carburator and EFI. Another 2 varients are for American Market Varients that is Called CRC (RX3 Cyclon). It got improved suspension, larger rims and tyres and many other goodies.
It also comes in EFI and Carb version.

Search for it online and target that variant because it is their premium model.

[vickytulla]

I agree on its a dozen of varaints when it comes to Rx3, This thread can be help ful..

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/general-motorcycle-discussion/268223-ideal-touring-bike-zongshen-rx-3-a