Honda CG125/150 International & Our CG125

[aqibasit]

"technology" ko ronay walo ... pehle market conditions bhi to dekho. :S Even if someone brings an advance level bike here, it will be LONG (really long) before our market reacts to it. Not only maintenance will be difficult but the products MAY receive a negative impression from "general" public. (I said general for a reason, because most of the bikes buying people are still illiterate)

1 GD110 aayi hay bus abhi from Suzuki, and wo kisi mechanic se set nai hoti theek tarah se. Baat karte hain "new technology" ki.

Seriously :\

P.S. Specifically talking about looks, that yellow honda bike in the above picture looks HORRENDOUS. Our Deluxe looks so much better than that :\

[abobobilly]

Fine it makes sense, but the reason I am keep replying you is because If some thing is not of your taste then its not logical that you have to spur it horrendous and Ugly and over done every where ..... even its big hit and not a chinese copy and made by a leading brand whose engineers have decades of engineering and crafting experience off their sleeves....

lol WUT?
So i can "praise" everywhere but can't do otherwise? Kya philosophy hay bhai. Unbelievable.

Plus, i really don't make my purchases on the fact "how big of a hit" that product is. Had this been the case, i would've bought an iPhone instead of a Galaxy. That applies too all of the stuff I purchase.

And in your last wording you sound like i am degrading Honda as a whole. Sorry to disappoint you, but thats really not my intentions. Because almost every other company seems to be following the same concept. Basically dhobi ka kutta, na ghar ka, na ghaat ka.

he he h he you got to be kidding me APP MAHAN ho SIR GEE APP MAHAN HO, classic following kerni achi baat hai but sirf classic following kero bakyon ky point of views ko majroh kero *** tu bahas tu ho gee ... or wo bhi tab jab dosra point of veiw ho bhi majority ka .. new tech men koi valid keeera nikalo bhai sahab takay hum bhi han men han milain sakain ... !!!

Baaqiyon k point of view of Majroh karna? Did i point a finger to a specific individual, criticizing his choice over anything? The only thing i shared was my opinion, which seems to be indigestible for some.

Sirf Tareefain karna mujeh nai aati. Ye sahi hay waisay. As long as you "Praise", you are praised in return. Start to be negative, the whole world will turn against you :-! ....... UNBELIEVABLE

point to ponder is the ride is not even offered to poor Pakistanis ( ye tu wohi baat ho gaye na k 'Angoor khatay hain' ).....

Aap k idioms need improvement. Because i haven't shown a single evidence which suggests that i am jealous of a ride because i don't have it ...

Plus, its not even offered in Pakistan. Which is exactly why i didn't ponder anywhere else, except the looks.

[vickytulla]

Lol Ye tu abobiliy gee ap gusa ker gaye hain

and still your all justifications don't make deluxe any better in any case from CG125FAN

lol WUT?
So i can "praise" everywhere but can't do otherwise? Kya philosophy hay bhai. Unbelievable.

Plus, i really don't make my purchases on the fact "how big of a hit" that product is. Had this been the case, i would've bought an iPhone instead of a Galaxy. That applies too all of the stuff I purchase.

And in your last wording you sound like i am degrading Honda as a whole. Sorry to disappoint you, but thats really not my intentions. Because almost every other company seems to be following the same concept. Basically dhobi ka kutta, na ghar ka, na ghaat ka.

Baaqiyon k point of view of Majroh karna? Did i point a finger to a specific individual, criticizing his choice over anything? The only thing i shared was my opinion, which seems to be indigestible for some.

Sirf Tareefain karna mujeh nai aati. Ye sahi hay waisay. As long as you "Praise", you are praised in return. Start to be negative, the whole world will turn against you :-! ....... UNBELIEVABLE

Aap k idioms need improvement. Because i haven't shown a single evidence which suggests that i am jealous of a ride because i don't have it ...

Plus, its not even offered in Pakistan. Which is exactly why i didn't ponder anywhere else, except the looks.

[vickytulla]

and frankly from where I see it is becoming hard for you to accept some HONDA products out there in the international markets are better in every aspect then almost half a century old rides which are cosmetically loaded with plastic to 'LOOK' modern...

Negative right point per hotay tu shyid koi apsay agree kerta lekin ap sirf Nostalgic ho rahay ho nothing more then that. baki ap manay na many doesnt matters..

Sirf Tareefain karna mujeh nai aati. Ye sahi hay waisay. As long as you "Praise", you are praised in return. Start to be negative, the whole world will turn against you :-! ....... UNBELIEVABLE

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[chawli]

I totally agreed u Amjad.... I am awaiting for CG 150, since i heard it is to be launched in Jan-2014.... let c...

[Ansee]

Amjad bhai nice thread.

Our CG and even Deluxe have got nothing on this real cool Fan CG. I don't think that Atlas will launch any such product as their motto is to make money only. They'll dominate this uneducated and ignorant society with their 1970's products for as long as these people are buying a 1986 model CG or 120k.

I have so much anger for Atlas and i strongly wish that they get shut down for good.

[SyedMoazzam]

Amjad bhai nice thread.

Our CG and even Deluxe have got nothing on this real cool Fan CG. I don't think that Atlas will launch any such product as their motto is to make money only. They'll dominate this uneducated and ignorant society with their 1970's products for as long as these people are buying a 1986 model CG or 120k.

I have so much anger for Atlas and i strongly wish that they get shut down for good.

Me too and InshAllah their shutdown is near:P

[Xarak]

Just because you own pathetic underpowered Pridor which no one bothers to buy your degrading CG. Carry on but let me tell you. It will remain the best bike of Pakistan.

[waqas18]

Just because you own pathetic underpowered Pridor which no one bothers to buy your degrading CG. Carry on but let me tell you. It will remain the best bike of Pakistan.

You are wrong...

It will remain greatest bike of the whole world... no one can compete CG125...

[asadsrc2003]

fIf you want this model, bring the civilized nation first.... well aware people.... and most importantly our mechanics should get over all the 2 numberian .... I have worked alot for it... most importantly your people of this country cant really buy expensive spare parts ... people are unable to pay . I believe AHL is keeeping in mind the class of people in mind so no upgrades are there........ tell the goray people that we are buying the rear light of 2013 70 just for a pound!! he will die for sure

[asadsrc2003]

Amjad bhai nice thread.

Our CG and even Deluxe have got nothing on this real cool Fan CG. I don't think that Atlas will launch any such product as their motto is to make money only. They'll dominate this uneducated and ignorant society with their 1970's products for as long as these people are buying a 1986 model CG or 120k.

I have so much anger for Atlas and i strongly wish that they get shut down for good.

its good to see civilized people around .... you have figured out the same thing.... we are buying 1986 model for a lac
its crap...........
pata nae kab log sekhain *** k being original is gud... we ahev so many copy cats.. copying 70 ... now that is sick

[saboor73]

"technology" ko ronay walo ... pehle market conditions bhi to dekho. :S Even if someone brings an advance level bike here, it will be LONG (really long) before our market reacts to it. Not only maintenance will be difficult but the products MAY receive a negative impression from "general" public. (I said general for a reason, because most of the bikes buying people are still illiterate)

1 GD110 aayi hay bus abhi from Suzuki, and wo kisi mechanic se set nai hoti theek tarah se. Baat karte hain "new technology" ki.

Seriously :\

P.S. Specifically talking about looks, that yellow honda bike in the above picture looks HORRENDOUS. Our Deluxe looks so much better than that :\

i agreed

[waqarbukhari125]

Guys i know this thread will hurt you guys like me who knows what AHl is doing with us
So please forgive but i can not stop myself from sharing the pics of this bike here at pw
Sharing so we can curse AHl for what they are doing with since years :'(

Look what honda CG125 has turned into and still what we are getting here in pakistan
first pics i am attaching to this thread is the comparison of Honda CG125 1976 & CG125 2014
and those are real honda made bikes the CG125 which we are getting here is manufactured by AHl
instead of improving anything or introducing any changes since decades they are lowering quality day by day
i don't need to explain thing sensible biker knows very well, there big innovations are "Sticker Change" every year

There are other variants of this bike available 150cc & even more full loaded sporty version is also available

Now posting pic our AHl CG125 2012/13 Model

Notice: A humble request to all crazy CG125 lovers please be patient
this is not an attack on your CG125 and its not necessary in every thread
you guys jump and start defending CG125 so my request is please be patient
let us guys who are sick of these decades old Old CD/CG curse AHl
for what they are doing since decades with us and this international CG125/150 says all
A moment of shame for all us :'(

International CG125 is really classic. I always have been fond of classic CG125 only due to its classic looks. But I think change is possible maintaining Classic look in CG125. Thanks for sharing amjad635 . Allah se dua karu k who deluxe of is tarah ka deluxe bna dein aur classic ko is tarah ki classic bna dein. I think this change will make happy both CG fans and Deluxe fans.

[SyedMoazzam]

i agreed

Nope i totally do not agree
Brother the point is that when GD110 was launched, Suzuki should have given proper training to all of its mechanics which should have been in the form of technical demonstrations as well as charts and diagrams comprising of detailed lectures.
But alas no such investment was made
As a result very few mechanics know how to deal with GD110
If a company for example Yamaha launches latest bikes the they will have to invest heavily in promotion as well as after sales including trained mechanics, if they do not invest capital in training their mechanics then its good bye to them
The point about humans is that they can adapt to anything, for example same jahil mechanics were totally clueless when suddenly a whole tsunami of jdm cars started to launch in Pakistan but with the passage of time the same mechanics made efforts to learn to repair these cars and look now you can get your vitz repaired easily
So the moral is that mechanics if given proper training can even handle a Hayabusa easily provided that they are able to learn and training is given step by step systematically
Yamaha should give training sessions which suit the mentality of our mechanics and not to overload them with too much technicality at first rather take it step by step systematically
Change will come and change always comes, if Iran can stop its Nuclear programme then anything can happen

[waqarbukhari125]

Nope i totally do not agree
Brother the point is that when GD110 was launched, Suzuki should have given proper training to all of its mechanics which should have been in the form of technical demonstrations as well as charts and diagrams comprising of detailed lectures.
But alas no such investment was made
As a result very few mechanics know how to deal with GD110
If a company for example Yamaha launches latest bikes the they will have to invest heavily in promotion as well as after sales including trained mechanics, if they do not invest capital in training their mechanics then its good bye to them
The point about humans is that they can adapt to anything, for example same jahil mechanics were totally clueless when suddenly a whole tsunami of jdm cars started to launch in Pakistan but with the passage of time the same mechanics made efforts to learn to repair these cars and look now you can get your vitz repaired easily
So the moral is that mechanics if given proper training can even handle a Hayabusa easily provided that they are able to learn and training is given step by step systematically
Yamaha should give training sessions which suit the mentality of our mechanics and not to overload them with too much technicality at first rather take it step by step systematically
Change will come and change always comes, if Iran can stop its Nuclear programme then anything can happen

Shah jee, aap to bht achi achi batein bhi kr lety hain. (Kidding). Yes brother you are right. In fact no other company has invested on special training of mechanics. Honda was the first one. And due to their that one investment they are getting profit till date. Most of the motorcycle mechanics are illiterate they know nothing about technology. They are all Asgardians cousins of THOR, best thing they know is use of hammer.

[tomsdasu1]

The design is different, but aren't the fundamentals (engine, suspension, frame, etc.) pretty much the same? I thought the PK version of the CG125 is just as bulletproof - why fix something if it isn't broken?

Most of the changes in the international version are related to emissions, safety, and maybe rider comfort - but they are also priced much more (2-3X more). The fundamentals (what is important) is here.

[waqarbukhari125]

The design is different, but aren't the fundamentals (engine, suspension, frame, etc.) pretty much the same? I thought the PK version of the CG125 is just as bulletproof - why fix something if it isn't broken?

Most of the changes in the international version are related to emissions, safety, and maybe rider comfort - but they are also priced much more (2-3X more). The fundamentals (what is important) is here.

you mean to say. AHL Honda cg125 is better. ?

[amjad635]

you mean to say. AHL Honda cg125 is better. ?

yes he is saying AHl CG125 is better

[waqarbukhari125]

@amjad635? are you sure? My English is not good. So I think, I have miss interpreted.

Hahaha. I was kidding. Everyone has right to have his own opinion. It is democracy.

[SyedMoazzam]

Shah jee, aap to bht achi achi batein bhi kr lety hain. (Kidding). Yes brother you are right. In fact no other company has invested on special training of mechanics. Honda was the first one. And due to their that one investment they are getting profit till date. Most of the motorcycle mechanics are illiterate they know nothing about technology. They are all Asgardians cousins of THOR, best thing they know is use of hammer.

Yes the foundation is very important