Honda Civic 1997 VTi Engine Overhaul ( over heating reducing oil)

SER_GTR (SER_GTR) 2014-04-16 05:26:53 +0500 #21

These Honda Engines Once Overheat All Way Twice Are Prone To Have uneven Head/Block.....Unlike Old YOTA's Iron BLOCK's

So Considering Advice...Get Only Oil Seals Changed And Resolve Heatup Issue.....

If You Need To Keep Car........Get New Assembly And Live Happy...Else You Will Spend More Than 2 Assemblies In Couple Of Months

janleva (janleva) 2014-04-16 09:45:27 +0500 #22

This ia how the pit stop people fixed my side virw mirror that made me loose confidance on them at least in fsd

afnan.bashir (afnan.bashir) 2014-04-16 10:28:09 +0500 #23

I don't believe in hiding things for selling purposes.I guess op should either tell the purchaser of current situation of engine else he shoul change assembly

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Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 13:31:59 +0500 #24

@hash4u

If you try to build an engine without caring for new stretch bolts and not paying attention to details like genuine gaskets, sealants, torque settings - you will have a disaster - more called "garbage in garbage out" - aka - shilcone toob + paana + taami + hathora rebuild.

Its pretty funny that the D series engines are known to spit in the eye of satan while running with little oil and water and still being able to get work done. - They are pretty dheet.

The pictures show a leaky valve cover gasket which has been ignored for tens of thousands of kms. First order will be to remove the head and check the block for corrossion, if its shot - then a new block is required. Its 90% of the fault in Pakistan because people think that "coolant" is a "bewaqoof bananay ka tareeqa" - in rebuild the machinist says he will weld new "silver" (yeah right like he's going to weld chaandi to your engine) - and then reface the block and you will have to use a 4mm thick headgasket.

such jobs end in tears - do the job once and do it correct. A car is a transport machine - it should be reliable

janleva (janleva) 2014-04-16 14:07:14 +0500 #25

No one is hiding any thing will for sure tell that it had a ring job and gasket change..its no big deal but alterations in a registration book and puting in a engine of some other car may cause a negative impression in the buyers mind ..

Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 14:10:13 +0500 #26

I dont think it would put a negative impression, firstly the car is 13 years old and secondly (according to PW) everyone swaps engines for "awesome JDM powaah"

janleva (janleva) 2014-04-16 14:16:11 +0500 #27

Everyone on pakwheels i guess but not every conventional buyer has that mind set.

Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 14:47:44 +0500 #28

I would suggest to remove the powerpack (engine + trans) - its dead easy on your car. separate the engine from trans - undo the cylinder head and check the block for warping etc, repair as required, repack properly and you are set.

hash4u (hash4u) 2014-04-16 14:50:15 +0500 #29

when ever i walk across an old civic i read the block code,
and i ask owners if they know engine is swapped
almost all of them say they have no idea, and they bought the car as it is

( the way i am, i did not reverse my cars meter, and told new owner engine change).......i had to leave 3-4k for engine number transfer fee from payment
but alteast i did not lie or cheat with anyone

Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 14:55:50 +0500 #30

That is because most people believe their mechanics and see that the engine looks very similar to the original one hence must be original.

SER_GTR (SER_GTR) 2014-04-16 17:23:55 +0500 #31

Bhai Ke Jazbaat Check Karein Bas......DIL DUkhaaaa Hua Insaan Aisa HOjata Ha

SER_GTR (SER_GTR) 2014-04-16 17:26:46 +0500 #32

Xulfiqar;4331914:

@hash4u

If you try to build an engine without caring for new stretch bolts and not paying attention to details like genuine gaskets, sealants, torque settings - you will have a disaster - more called "garbage in garbage out" - aka - shilcone toob + paana + taami + hathora rebuild.

Its pretty funny that the D series engines are known to spit in the eye of satan while running with little oil and water and still being able to get work done. - They are pretty dheet.

The pictures show a leaky valve cover gasket which has been ignored for tens of thousands of kms. First order will be to remove the head and check the block for corrossion, if its shot - then a new block is required. Its 90% of the fault in Pakistan because people think that "coolant" is a "bewaqoof bananay ka tareeqa" - in rebuild the machinist says he will weld new "silver" (yeah right like he's going to weld chaandi to your engine) - and then reface the block and you will have to use a 4mm thick headgasket.

such jobs end in tears - do the job once and do it correct. A car is a transport machine - it should be reliable

and 95% The Case Is GONE Block....WHich Blows Gasket...And In END You Need NEW One....

Yahan Block He Face Karte Hain...Chandi Wale C******** Kam Hogae Ab

Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 17:32:04 +0500 #33

As I said - garbage in garbage out.

SER_GTR (SER_GTR) 2014-04-16 17:32:39 +0500 #34

BHai Chona Lagane Ka Kisne Bola Ha.....Get It Sorted Mean SOLVE The Worst Of It......! Even In This COndition..People Buy Cars But You Should Atleast FIX The OIL LEaks...And Maybe Heatup Is Due To SOmething Else....Not Always Block HEad Is GONER..But Its Mostly The Case Because People Do RAGRAA Till It Begs For Life........No One Want To Nip The Evil in the Bud....!

Chalrahe ha bas...chalae jao

SER_GTR (SER_GTR) 2014-04-16 17:35:17 +0500 #35

Open HOOD

VTEC Valve Cover.....All Good...Close

rj212 (rj212) 2014-04-16 22:28:09 +0500 #36

Yup that's right. If I was you I'd do the swap for b18 tbh less hassle and straight job with no fixing....

Xulfiqar (Xulfiqar) 2014-04-16 23:58:08 +0500 #37

no matter if its got a carburettor? VETEC - zindabad

janleva (janleva) 2014-04-17 00:06:30 +0500 #38

@xulfiqar will do that for sure

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janleva (janleva) 2014-04-17 02:40:33 +0500 #39

the first time it got over heated but stayed below the red line was when its radiator needed service the seccond time when it over heated it had leaking hoses fixing them and a new radiator solved the issue for about 4 years. After the first over heating it developed starting problems whenever the car even had a normal driving when the engine was warm. The mechanic told me that these hondas self starter gets farig after heat ups usually, So he installed some kabli one for 1100 rs which sounds heavy( like a a truck self ) but the car didnt had any starting problems after that still half self start. Some other mechanics that i queried before for that problem said that its sensors are bad, engine farig hai, kholian *** to pata chalay ga bka bla bla. I am keeping my fingers crossed this time aswell will see what type of mess the cars engine is into this time this wekedend.

janleva (janleva) 2014-04-17 04:32:39 +0500 #40

i figured out after on google that the leakage around the distributor area might be due to a worn out O-ring that is one of the leading problems of such leaks along with the head gakset. The whole area below the distributor as here in my case is contaminated with oil staring right from the distributor area. O rings , valvse seals, gasket, may be the mot common reason of the oil reduction as i dont feel any lack of power while drive or any wierd noises. Checked the transmission fluid for any leaks but its level was all right.