IJC Rally Team Jhal 2011 Experience

[nn]

Found one of my Evo too:):),,, tearing across Mullah River

Lovely head-on shot, Can be new avator pic!

[nn]

Trust me,,,,, unless its the tie-rod or steering rack-end,,,, nothing happens:)

Cool video,,,, and Mashallah very neat driving, no wobbles,,, no drift.

Cant hear Asad's voice properly in the video but seems you received no warning before the turn at 12.02:14 and you almost over-shot, that could have been nasty.

Checked my in-dash video, from start of this video i.e. the trees on opposite sides, till the stream, I took 1 minute and 53 seconds.

Well, in an independantly sprung/suspended EVO it might not be too bad with tyre or suspension failure, but with solid axle front failed tyre / suspension usually can have signifcant consequences, lets hope we never find that out!

I can hear Asad saying full left, full left.........but probably a bit late, we actually didn't make proper notes for second half, as were running late during recce and it was getting dark, and course seemed reasonably familiar from last years rally.

Your time would obviously have been much quicker, (20 minutes quicker overall even with burst tyre). We maybe could have tried harder in 2nd stage, but still I don't think we could have bettered Anas's time, maybe even that is being too optimistic.

[fobak]

love the pics and on dash cam vdo superb

[nn]

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Asad, Time kia hua hai?
Doc, 12:41
Asad, wai wai wai.. bachon ko school se bhi pick karna thaa...

[nn]

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[nn]

@ 5:50sec
Asad, Time kia hua hai?
Doc, 12:41
Asad, wai wai wai.. bachon ko school se bhi pick karna thaa...

Nahi yaar, sunday ko chuttee hoti hai!

[Janj]

[I]Congratulation IJC Rally Team & Support team way to go .

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[nn]

Congratulation IJC Rally Team & Support team way to go .

Thnx Saqib!

[nn]

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[SuhaibKiani]

Your time would obviously have been much quicker, (20 minutes quicker overall even with burst tyre). We maybe could have tried harder in 2nd stage, but still I don't think we could have bettered Anas's time, maybe even that is being too optimistic.

Well I may be wrong but I got the feeling that this track with the carromboard drifting generally favoured the Evos. And unless you had aeronautical level stuff installed on a solid axle rig as in the Nadir Magsi Cruiser, you would always have a very hard time catching upto the independent suspension, limited slip everything Evos....

BTW @nn does the NPP has a limited slip diff at the rear?

[aamir567]

Zabardast videos & photo coverage of the event

[SuhaibKiani]

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[yaserag]

great thread guys, two thumbs up! @suhaib, just wondering, since youve made the uzi for rallying have you thought of replacing the leaf spring setup with a 4 link setup and coilovers? on another note, has any1 locally swapped complete 80 series axles onto a 40? what axles are you running btw?

[SuhaibKiani]

great thread guys, two thumbs up! @suhaib, just wondering, since youve made the uzi for rallying have you thought of replacing the leaf spring setup with a 4 link setup and coilovers? on another note, has any1 locally swapped complete 80 series axles onto a 40? what axles are you running btw?

Many Thanks! Firsly, I probably indicated rally intentions underlying the UZi build, but the fact of the matter is that we wanted a cross trainer sort of a thing that does everything from rock crawling to rallies to grocery shopping and even an occasional weekend office drive!

Ah, the leaf springs! Well youre right links and coilovers is the direction we eventually thought of taking this towards and thats mainly why we never swapped out the leafs for stock TLC coil suspension. For now, we retain flexibility of playing around with leaf spring rates and save cash for an coilover setup someday. Ideally start with linking the front with dual rate coilovers and leaving the rear coils hanging on some triple bypasses, but all that is a fair distance away at this stage if it ever transpires!

We are running TLC 70 series diffs (RKRs for local lingo) which are beefier/stronger than Prado 70 series diffs (with slightly bigger pumpkins). We got these over the 40 series diffs essentially for the lockers and rear disc brakes. Track width for both 40 and 70 series diffs is around 55-56 inches. We also have some 1.5 inch spacers with the 8 inch stock TLC 80 rims. 80 series diffs on 40s have not been done out here, to my knowledge....

[yaserag]

Many Thanks! Firsly, I probably indicated rally intentions underlying the UZi build, but the fact of the matter is that we wanted a cross trainer sort of a thing that does everything from rock crawling to rallies to grocery shopping and even an occasional weekend office drive!

Ah, the leaf springs! Well youre right links and coilovers is the direction we eventually thought of taking this towards and thats mainly why we never swapped out the leafs for stock TLC coil suspension. For now, we retain flexibility of playing around with leaf spring rates and save cash for an coilover setup someday. Ideally start with linking the front with dual rate coilovers and leaving the rear coils hanging on some triple bypasses, but all that is a fair distance away at this stage if it ever transpires!

We are running TLC 70 series diffs (RKRs for local lingo) which are beefier/stronger than Prado 70 series diffs (with slightly bigger pumpkins). We got these over the 40 series diffs essentially for the lockers and rear disc brakes. Track width for both 40 and 70 series diffs is around 55-56 inches. We also have some 1.5 inch spacers with the 8 inch stock TLC 80 rims. 80 series diffs on 40s have not been done out here, to my knowledge....

understood... thanks.

the 40 mustve been like a bronco bucking like crazy on the jhal magsi track...hats off to you guys pulling it off successfully

[SuhaibKiani]

[SuhaibKiani]

understood... thanks.

the 40 mustve been like a bronco bucking like crazy on the jhal magsi track...hats off to you guys pulling it off successfully

Well it wasn't actually! We'd been trying to get the suspension to behave for months and it all came together for us somehow in the end mainly with the following two things and we ended up with a slightly softer suspension than we would have liked:

(i) Some freshie BF Goodrich MTs 285/75/16s showed up at a local second hand tire shop, which we picked up and ran at 15 psi on race day on 8 inch wide rims (in hidsight, slightly lower than we would have liked but long story....). Apart from the visual appeal and the few hundred compliments the tires solicited for us, they made bashing into dunes, bannas and rocks easy and dare I say quite a bit of fun

(ii) The rear tire carrier craftfully constructed on fasttrack basis by Jamil Usta was perhaps the major turning point in the FJ40 ride. There was something about outboarding the heavy 33x12.5 Yokohama Geolandar tire (Courtesy: Shabab aka Untamed) that did away with the bumpy ride characteristics and we were left wishing we had an extra leaf at the back. I believe its the lever like effect that the tire hanging out far behind the rear diff had that made the difference because it worked much better than two tires right above the rear diff....