Indian bikes vs Pakistani bikes

[RX115]

@killman u said that

@2468-Bro 125cc two strokes can go no more than 100-105kph max true speed in street form.Maybe it does 145kph on the speedo which has error.

@killman i have RX 115,goes till 150 km/h.u recently conclude about 40 km/h diffrence on speedometer, i think in this matter u r not correct.
if u said 5 to 10 km/h diffrence on speedometer that would b quiet right

[abdulsattar_civic95]

@rx115
bro you are rite rx can go upto 150 KMPH
@killman
bro firstly that RD 350 is a two stroke bike so think about it again a four stroke 250cc or 300cc bike can reach 160 to 180 KMPH so a two stroke 350 easily touch 200 kmph

[2468]

@killerman
Bro our 100cc two stroke yamaha yb 100 royal goes to 100 to 105 kms easily, and you said GTO125 or RX115 cannot go above 100 to 105, I think you dont know the facts right.

RD350 is a heavy weight bulky machine, similar to Honda CB350 which was available in Pakistan in 70's, these bikes are certainly classics but not performance machines, even dont have disc brakes in them!!

[ROHANGENIUS]

@ ROHANGENIUS-The RD is availaible between Rs 5000 to Rs 1 Lakh and more for well maintained bikes.You shud respect that this machine still commands such a premuim after more that 20years after production stopped.Will the R15 and FZ command such prices 20years later?? think abt. it and you will know.

Yup! I agree.Superb build quality ist has.(Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)

RD350 is a heavy weight bulky machine, similar to Honda CB350 which was available in Pakistan in 70's, these bikes are certainly classics but not performance machines, even dont have disc brakes in them!!

100% Agreed there.RD ,Bullet etc are semi cruiser bikes.

[KILLMAN]

@abdulsattar_civic95-Bro modern liquid cooled models can easily do such speeds but RD is an aircooled model from the 70's.

@2468-Bro here is link to road test from Bike Magazine Circa November 1975
RD350 vs Suzuki GT380
http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/bikes/Test_Reports/Yamaha_RD350-GT380.html

RD did 100kph in 7.3secs going on to hit 156kph (97mph)...do you think your GTO 125 or RX115 can beat a RD that easily though the GT380 couldnt do it with the bigger engine.

I bet that GTO/RX has big speedo error and the true top speed is not more than 110-115kpg in any case.

Also can you tell me what is the BHP(brake horsepower) of GTO and RX ??

[abdulsattar_civic95]

@killman
GTO 125 is 18 Bhp and for your kind information there is no such as speedo meter fault this is paractical which is done by my self even a 70cc 4stroke bike easily touch 80Kmph and a 125cc fourstroke bike can touch 120kmph so thats why im so sure about it. i think you dont know much about two stroke engines or you never ride a two stroke bike.

[mamehmood]

@abdulsattar
you are absolutly right abt GTO and 70

[575maranello]

erterter

[2468]

@killerman
Thanks for the nice information, you said that GTO125 would not go above 115km/h, bro our CG125 in fit condition goes to 115Km easily and even touches 120km and at that speed GTO125 crosses it from back like bullet, now u can understand the situation yourself, bro its power to weight ratio as well that comes into play as well, Aprilia RS125 is another example for you in this regard.

[DesiBoy]

New 135 cc bike launched in India. The Bajaj XCD 135

Speedometer of the Bajaj XCD 135

Pics taken from www.xcd135.blogspot.com

[RX115]

@killman u said gto/rx has big speedo error,in my point of view u lives in fools peradise dear dont mind first of all gto/rx r made in japan not by made in india.gto/rx-bhp=18/15.5 and thers is not any speedo error in these bikes bcoz we have experienced it with diffrent kinds like race with honda vti,toyota corrola {car} and there were no diffrence among my bike and the cars.2ndly u r quite young ask to ur elders about rx135 which used to b a best bike in india.3rdly u claimed rd350,s speed then i m agree with u its bullet

[RX115]

@killman dear i have rx115 my bike does 100km/h in 8 sec and going on to hit 140 km/h easily and u asked that can rx/gto beat the rd350, my ans is nope bcoz its much diffrence in cc,s rd is also a name of its class.u can bet gto/rx on rd125 rather 350.....

[KILLMAN]

I think we can bury this issue here and now.

I dont think i can argue about the machines that i havent ridden.

GTO125 seems to makes same power as the Yamaha RXZ @18bhp(india special RX series model) and its light weight but let me tell you one thing even the RXZ didint do that kind of speed.And if it had a analogue needle speedometer there is bound to be some amount of error.You can check it by using SIGMA or some GPS device which will tell you the speed.

If its showing 140kph on the speedo then the true speed is somewhere close to ~125 +-few kph

@abdulsattar_civic95-Bro i myself ride a RD 350 (i maintain it myself)...you can find the pics in some of the topics i post on PW so i know enough of the 2stroke tech for you kind info.

@RX115- Even RD is a japanese model...model from 1983 to 1985 were imported in India and had the "Made in Japan" sign on them.Mine is a '84 model.
Bro who told you only bike speedo had errors....even cars have erroneous speedometers

[RX115]

@killman i dont wanna comment anymore

[ROHANGENIUS]

2 stroke bikes have more power than 4 stroke but not that huge power & they have speed-o-meter errors too.New digital speed-o-meter is free from errors.

@Killman

The old RX-Z......Ah! those were the days (Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)

[abdulsattar_civic95]

@killman and rohan
i think so you guys dont want to understand wht we are saying anyways we state what we do in our paracticals and facts.

[ROHANGENIUS]

@abdulsattar_civic95

Buddy we have also ridden many 2-stroke bikes and we are also telling you our experiences.

[BMW7Series]

main ty eagle ly vi lai.

[Ducati]

@RX115

@KILLMAN is right mate all bike speedo's have have a fair margin of error even the digital ones and one of the most accurate ways to determine its true speed is to use a GPS. Ofcourse if you have access to a radar/laser gun used by the cops that will also work with a very small margin of error

[2468]

@all

Yes 2 to 3 km plus or minus speedo error is possible, but not more than that.