Installation of Abs brakes

[haseeb.basharat]

specify valve lash check at 100,000 kms and replacing platinum plugs too, iridium ones last for 150,000 kms

I don't know about valve lash or something. There is a service like that known as valve check. Got that done in all cars at 100k kms. 150k kms for iridiums? As I said that can last this much in US not here due to a bad fuel quality. It lasted max 90000kms in my car. It started giving misfires and when I took it out tip was at microscopic level.

The owner can be a moron and drive it till it falters and damages more parts like valve seats and coils etc then go crying about how unreliable the car is or how bad the fuel is in their country or that they have bad mechanics. Everything other than themselves are at fault.

That's an unbelievable thing to say for a 500k kms driven car. .

Whole world says that thick oil will never kill engine, you run opposite from the world. I purchased a car made by Toyota IMC. I follow the same manual, you are talking about owner's manual of usdm.
Yet you never answered a logical question of mine!
Why my car gives better fuel economy on 5w50 as compared to 5w30?

The ones that land in junkyard are always lower level miles and owned by the type of people who thought maintenance means check light illumination and then say “chik lite aan howee, mechanic ne kaha 2000 dollar kharcha hai, hum ne forann scrap kardi, aainda toyota nahi lenge bohot kharcha maangti hai” lol

Man! You never answered the real query, and you started a journey to a never ending debate.

But please dont stop using all those products, they are also in business of selling and need to earn too.

Sir but catcon cleaner actually worked for corolla and civic turbo. turbo wasn't even shifting on S as catcon was chocked.

Even the liqui moly injector cleaner works a lot, but I use that after like 50000kms.

[htb456]

You talk about something you dont know about. Keep using whatever you want in your vehicle, its your choice. Manufacturers spent millions in RnD for nothing already.

Oh and btw your 2kmpl fuel average increase on 5w50 over 5w30 doesnt prove anything. It could be result of just one experiment in which traffic conditions were more favorable, there are many other factors which impact the fuel economy of a vehicle. If the engine is designed for w30 on hotter side then that is the best engine oil for optimum performance, period.

[Xulfiqar]

Check engine light is there for engine, transmission, emmissions electrical check, not for mechanical check.

Mechanical check doesnt have a “light” thats why its written as “inspect and service at xxx interval” in the owner manual.

E.g. there is no error code to denote that the water pump shaft has leaked or that the cooling system is full of rust.

Think about it.

[anon35615524]

And here we go again...

@haseeb.basharat

Dear during our telephonic conversation last week, I had said following regarding engine oils; and let me reiterate:

"!...یہاں " مفاہمت کے بیا نے " کو پزیرائی ملتی ہے ، " مزاحمت کے بیا نے " کو نہیں"

So I suggest, let everything go with the flow!

If majority recommend thin oils like 0w-20, 0w-16, etc. let them. Just give your opinion based on your knowledge and experiences, but no need to give justifications (as these mostly do not help, and things turn in to never ending debates).

Leave everything to others to decide, that whether they agree with you, or disagree.

[UAHMAD]

Absolutely right.

Since the discussion is about brakes, so please allow me to add that other than ABS malfunction there is no warning light for a stuck up caliper piston, worn out disc pads, loose slider pins etc.

[UAHMAD]

Just yesterday a friend was discussing about engine of his 2010 Altis giving up.

When I enquired about which oil he had been using, his answer was 20W 50. When I asked the reason, his justification was the mileage of car surpassing 250 k, so thick oil being the only choice. Its overhauling now due.

What is the purpose of thicker oil's use in an old car if your engine still dies?

[anon35615524]

Sir I doubt that engine failed due to using 20w-50 engine oil grade. Reason(s) seem to be other than 20w-50 engine oil grade.

Did he mention which brand of 20w-50 grade he had been using? and was oil + oil filter guaranteed to be 100% authentic? Was the periodic maintenance schedule, etc. followed? Et. al.

When I asked the reason, his justification was the mileage of car surpassing 250 k

I think this is no justification that engine is high on odo, so switch to 20w-50.

[anon35615524]

Some months ago, there were 02 separate threads, in which owners asked for the recommendations of best engine oil brand / grade for their rides.

Both threads were quite similar, like:

1. Both were ~11-12 years old model Corollas.
2. Both were > 2.5 lac Kms (may be even more, like ~3 lac Kms) on odo.
3. Engines were strong and healthy.

One was using ZIC A+ 5w-20 since day 01, other one was using 20w-50 since day 01 (I can't recall the brand now).

I suggested them to continue sing the same brand and grade, as their respective engines were working absolutely fine on those grades.

[Xulfiqar]

I don't know about valve lash or something. There is a service like that known as valve check. Got that done in all cars at 100k kms. 150k kms for iridiums? As I said that can last this much in US not here due to a bad fuel quality. It lasted max 90000kms in my car. It started giving misfires and when I took it out tip was at microscopic level.

If you dont know of such service doesnt mean it doesnt exist - it used to be called "tappit setting" in Pakistan. Its mandatory to be done otherwise you will burn the valves. (pricey business) btw - for your iridum plugs not lasting 150K kms you have to make sure they are have a solid platinum disc fused to the negative part of the plug too, There are many versions of similar spark plugs - some have precious metal on positive side only (low mile life plug) while plugs with precious metal on both sides have very long life. - e.g. denso IK series have plug life as long as copper plug only while SK series plugs (4 times more expensive) have life 5 times longer, both are called iridium plugs.

btw - the fuel in USA is mixed with ethanol - the same stuff that was introduced in Pakistan and mechanics were calling it "kemikal hai - pitrol nahi" - if you recall history.

Whole world says that thick oil will never kill engine, you run opposite from the world. I purchased a car made by Toyota IMC. I follow the same manual, you are talking about owner's manual of usdm.Yet you never answered a logical question of mine!Why my car gives better fuel economy on 5w50 as compared to 5w30?

Im talking about global service manual (its written by Toyota Japan)

btw - Your "feel" is invalid as you also claim to do 200 kph on a Pakistan motorway in a corolla. - I will believe the actual manufacturer and also lube blender and plain physics - heavier fluids have more friction (its called viscosity) and if I want a "Pakistani POV" like yours - I have hundreds of clients reporting the same which is that mpg takes a solid hit when they use a heavy lube oil.

Man! You never answered the real query, and you started a journey to a never ending debate.

typical answer of green passport holder to deviate - you yourself claimed that "why touch an engine if it starts and runs" - aka "chalti ka naam gaadi"

by that rationale ustaadified, direct fan, tap water as coolant, mota haail, tire sourced engine mounts, dragging brakes and cheap taping on wiring along with a long laundry list of classic desi repair cars - also "run" but will be considered "running scrap" - but hey "chalti to hai naa"

Sir but catcon cleaner actually worked for corolla and civic turbo. turbo wasn't even shifting on S as catcon was chocked.

Even the liqui moly injector cleaner works a lot, but I use that after like 50000kms.

I got them for free (liquid molvi injector cleaner) - tried on an actually blocked cat converter on a chevrolet silverado pickup, didnt do anything at all. waste of money - welded new converter to get truck working and pass onboard readiness monitors.

this was sold back in the mid 2000s too, I used it in Pakistan on a jdm shahkaar accord (cf3) - didnt do anything to unclog a blocked cat, had to replace it - car was owned by "sunglasses welded on face used car salesman" aka "showroom wala"

btw - cat blockage is checked by measuring pressure differential across the converter - not the transmission shifting or feeling the pickup.

[htb456]

Sir you or me or even xulfiqar bhai are no authority of recommending engine oil. Its the realm of engine manufacturer and they know what is best for the longitivity of their engines and its not that hard to find, just turn over to the page of manual where it discusses the engine oil specification. Now you wont believe me but do search on internet to find that going thicker than recommended oil reduces peak horsepower of engine and effects the overall torque curve. Anyway, who cares about that as long as "there is no check engine light"

[Xulfiqar]

Im going to use this

"there is no check engine light" comment from now on its hilarious. - Imagine owner of car arguing to not repair his vehicle because check engine light is not on.

meanwhile engine headgasket has failed long ago.

sounds like the hordes of used tesla owners that are growing by thousand scale, - I kid you not but they actually say this.

"what do you mean I need to change brake pads" - this is a tesla which is an electric car, meaning its maintenance free - stop scamming me.

replace the word brake pads with any mechanical part - or even body part..

[Xulfiqar]

of course there isnt.

but you have to admit - this is hilarious.

[Xulfiqar]

250K is nothing for a newer toyota engine, the reason it died was probably the wrong lube or missed maintenance.

[anon35615524]

Zulfiqar Bhai who has set the "Popping up of check engine light" as the yardstick that car now needs maintenance?

[htb456]

Due to them car repair business is a thing

[Xulfiqar]

I dont know,

But for me since forever the check engine light means “anomaly in engine control system detected” it doesnt mean “maintenance”

Makes me wonder, does the red battery light on your dash mean battery is dead?

I was told it means the 12v electrical system has suffered a failure.

[Xulfiqar]

I wonder what such people will do with a carby car, no check light no tension, majanee life.

[pwuser158913575038]

The very definition of "purani garian msly kam krti thin"

[htb456]

for that reason I learned myself to build/repair old alto carbeurator. I was so paranoid about it, to service it once a month

[pwuser152119181238]

Dear sir
I would like to have your help regarding my ride. After reading your posts, I realized that I also need to have tappet adjusting of my car. I have Honda city, 1.3 MT. I got the car at 73K odo and now it is 115K. I never got its tappets adjustment, as I never knew it has to be done after every 40K. I need your suggestions about this. Apart from valve clearance value, what other things are done? Is there anything related to timing done? Honda dealership is asking for 3500 for tappets. I guess it is way too much. I want to get it done from my mechanic, but need to know what parameters are too be done and which things need special consideration.