Inverter Type AC in Pakistan (Inverter/Non Inverter Dedicated Discussion)

[ussama.ghanchi]

Please share some info about the technician or a installer in karachi who can vacum and re install the 410a gas in karachi..

I am very frustrated with the hitachi panatron.. pathetic after sale service.

Ac is taking full amps but cooling is not near 26degree.

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[hasooboy]

Please share some info about the technician or a installer in karachi who can vacum and re install the 410a gas in karachi..

I am very frustrated with the hitachi panatron.. pathetic after sale service.

Ac is taking full amps but cooling is not near 26degree.

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My ac technician have a pump but its a custom made and can't vacuum the whole line set. R410 is not that expensive. Just few hundred difference from R22.

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[hasooboy]

My new orient 1 ton gas again leaked called the orient center and they technician comes again and checked, there was a leakage in the outer unit then next day they come fixed the leakage and filled the gas again. And there were no charges what so ever. After sale is fast and responsive. But QC is pathetic.

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[CerwinVega]

AC: GREE GS-CITH1S 1.5 ton Inverter
Room: 8x10x8

It's basically a kitchen on the top floor facing sun from 2 direction that I have converted into my home office.

Turned the AC on at 12:30 am and put in cool turbo set at 26. It went up to 9.5 amps (@170volts=1615watts) and stayed there for good part of 1:30 hrs(90 mins), now at about 2 am amps have dropped to 3 (@170volts still).

Usually you don't buy 1.5 ton for a room this small, but I knew this room gets very hot. After 30 mins of operation, the walls were still very hot when turned on the AC at 30 mins past midnight. Now the walls feel like my body temperature.

It stayed at 3 amps for only about 10 mins and now have crept back up to 9 amps. Obviously AC is being worked overtime to cool down this room. I wonder what will happen during the day, it'll probably stay at full speed.

Now 5 mins later it has again come down to 2.8 amps (@170 volts), let's see for how long it maintains it.

Stayed at 2.8 amps for 10 mins and went backup gradually to 8 amps, stayed at 8 amps for 5 mins and gradually got back to 2.8 amps.

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The way I see it, inverter AC is not for everyone. People can benefit a little are who:
- use their AC 10-12 hours a day
- want use solar system or a ups
- who get low voltage like me (drops to as low 160 volts at night)

Inverter is not a good buy for:
- Drawing rooms where it's rarely used like once a week or months
- People who only use it at night for 6 hours (9pm-6am minus 3 hours of load shedding)

The 30k - 80k (depending on brand) you put upfront, you will not get it back in savings even in 5 years.

1.5(units consumed per hour)x5(6 hours of usage with 1 hour of down time when ac turns itself off when temp is reached)x30(days)x15(average unit rate) = 4050 monthly bill for 1 of 1.5 ton normal AC.

There is no way you save 60% or 50% in bills by using the inverter AC, real world figure is about 15% to 30% depending on conditions. Lets assume the best case scenario of 30% in which case you will be only saving 1215 per month. Multiply that to 4 months of average usage in a year = 4860 in saving per year.

Now in case of Acson inverter AC (priced at 125 plus about 5k installation) where you pay about 70k more compared to conventional Acson AC, it will take you 14 years to recover the amount you paid upfront, let alone making any savings.

So before buying an inverter AC, figure out first if you really need it.

Hahahha .... this is exactly what i concluded before buying my AC and ends up buying a non invertor brand new 1.5 ton kenwood .
Buying this make more sence to me with low maintenance cost saving

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[hasooboy]

Hahahha .... this is exactly what i concluded before buying my AC and ends up buying a non invertor brand new 1.5 ton kenwood .
Buying this make more sence to me with low maintenance cost saving

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The plus point of inverter ac that it can be easily run on a generator. Now a days there is much of a difference of a non inverter or inverter ac

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[qwertypoiu]

Acson u might not find easily as the company has limited units and they have killed acson brand in houde hold acs as they introduced diaken ac. Getting diaken 2ton inverter for 133 in lahore.

Are you sure same people are importing acson and diaken?
Can you recall the importers name?

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[s15]

I cannot even believe that many people here are getting inverter ACs specifically to save electricity. It makes me ROTFL every time i come to this thread.

Inverters are best for tropical climate, not for 45C+ summers like in Pakistan. They actually increase bills or consume similar electricity as non inverters in 45C+ summers.

Inverter saved this much electricity, invertor saved that much electricity xD.

Inverters did nothing, except for deflating the wallet.

[ashaina]

I cannot even believe that many people here are getting inverter ACs specifically to save electricity. It makes me ROTFL every time i come to this thread.

Inverters are best for tropical climate, not for 45C+ summers like in Pakistan. They actually increase bills or consume similar electricity as non inverters in 45C+ summers.

Inverter saved this much electricity, invertor saved that much electricity xD.

Inverters did nothing, except for deflating the wallet.

Where did u read that inverters r best for tropical climate?
Ur verdict about no saving is based on ur experience or "soni sonai?

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[hasooboy]

I cannot even believe that many people here are getting inverter ACs specifically to save electricity. It makes me ROTFL every time i come to this thread.

Inverters are best for tropical climate, not for 45C+ summers like in Pakistan. They actually increase bills or consume similar electricity as non inverters in 45C+ summers.

Inverter saved this much electricity, invertor saved that much electricity xD.

Inverters did nothing, except for deflating the wallet.

Well you are totally wrong here, i have received 2k less bill this month as compared to last year. Not that much of a savings but still worth it as the difference between inverter and non inverter was only 10k.

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[ali15144]

Are you sure same people are importing acson and diaken?
Can you recall the importers name?

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Acson Pakistan open the link u will see,same people

[kasaas]

I cannot even believe that many people here are getting inverter ACs specifically to save electricity. It makes me ROTFL every time i come to this thread.

Inverters are best for tropical climate, not for 45C+ summers like in Pakistan. They actually increase bills or consume similar electricity as non inverters in 45C+ summers.

Inverter saved this much electricity, invertor saved that much electricity xD.

Inverters did nothing, except for deflating the wallet.

even if all u said is true, inverter are still the best option as they work even on low voltage ie below 200 that we r getting now a days in lahore. my non inverter ac keeps tripping whole day while inverter keeps running and cooling

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[defaheems]

i am currently living on first flour (non Insulated),for past three years im using acson 1.5 ton. and Haier 1.5 ton. In my experience Acson is far superior in terms of cooling then haier. my average summer electricity bill is 21000 aprox.
Now I am renovating my open basement for which i require three 1.5 ton splits, weather to buy inverter or normal Diaken (Formaly acson) ?
Diaken inverter is too costly so I guess it is out of option unless it is real value for money..
with full discount from company Diaken inverter will cost me around 109,000/
where as normal Diaken split costs around 55,000/
my besment is already very cold as even in these days you can sit ther for an hour without fan comfortably. require ac's for Aug and Sep's humidity.

I will appreciate your valued suggesstions
Regards

[ali15144]

i am currently living on first flour (non Insulated),for past three years im using acson 1.5 ton. and Haier 1.5 ton. In my experience Acson is far superior in terms of cooling then haier. my average summer electricity bill is 21000 aprox.
Now I am renovating my open basement for which i require three 1.5 ton splits, weather to buy inverter or normal Diaken (Formaly acson) ?
Diaken inverter is too costly so I guess it is out of option unless it is real value for money..
with full discount from company Diaken inverter will cost me around 109,000/
where as normal Diaken split costs around 55,000/
my besment is already very cold as even in these days you can sit ther for an hour without fan comfortably. require ac's for Aug and Sep's humidity.

I will appreciate your valued suggesstions
Regards

Depends on ur budget and the amount of time u will spend in those rooms. If ac will work for 8 plus hours get an inverter ac if less than 8 hours get a normal ac. For an inverter ac over 1 lac it will take 7 years almost to earn back the amount spent. Choice is yours daiken or ackson are the best. Ackon inverter 2 ton doesn't go beyond 9ampere in any circumstances. On full fan and temperature set belowe 20.u have the benchmark as acson. Ur choice. Depends on usage if usage is less than 8 hours get a normal ac

[autotranny]

Starting frm 6~6.5 amps and goes down to 2.5~3amps with in 2~3 hours at 28 degrees temp set and also voltage above 220

OK thanks for sharing this info. what about the cooling ? Is it as good as with a non-inveter AC?

[autotranny]

My observatn is that low voltage causes stoppage of compressor due to inbuilt safety checks to protect ac .

New ac especially invertr have advanced tech so they are being marketed as able to work in low voltage.

If your ac took so many amperes to keep meeting its power requirements its compressor wd be running not stopped so its not taking that current.

First thing ... check the ampere of ur circuit breaker. It wd be 10 or 15 . Amps wd not exceed it . Circuit breakr trips wn exceed and you are not able to measure anymore. Rest assured 30 is false alert.

Second get anothr amp meter.

If ac on 10 amp circuit breaker shift it to 15 amp.

Low voltage can also be measured kn voltage meter.

Well called the AC guy to have a look at it. Initially he said it was due to low voltage and that the low voltage issue is quite common in Lahore these days. But then within 5 min. the amperes took a flight and within no time reached 30. He had his own Amp meter so he checked the amperes with it and guess what ? It was actually taking 30 amp. He then dismantled the outer unit and after checking for 5 min. said the capacitor is gone. Bought a new capacitor for 500 rs. and got the outer unit cleaned with water. Now the amperes stay between 9 and 13, occasionally going up to 14 or at one time 15.4 but then come down after a few min. The circuit breaker was also faulty/substandard as it was meant to trip at 16 Amp but did not do its job. The room i use is on the 2nd floor with the roof and one wall directly exposed to the sun with not much ventilation. The room gets excessively hot so that even after 2 hours of AC running if i swithc off the AC for 5 min. one starts to feel the excessive heat. I wonder whether i will be able to save much if i buy an inverter ac by selling this and adding some extra money.

[SER_GTR]

I cannot even believe that many people here are getting inverter ACs specifically to save electricity. It makes me ROTFL every time i come to this thread.

Inverters are best for tropical climate, not for 45C+ summers like in Pakistan. They actually increase bills or consume similar electricity as non inverters in 45C+ summers.

Inverter saved this much electricity, invertor saved that much electricity xD.

Inverters did nothing, except for deflating the wallet.

explain HOW....R410A works effecient than R22.... Making It Run On DC compressor doesnt mean it wont perform upto mark...

It Cools Faster Than Typical R22 Unit ....So Many AC Consumers Can Confirm This

[wasimcheema]

I am using Haier hsu-12hnh/dc(w) model. it is the latest model and cost me 54000 for ac (installation kit is included by company). I also have gree inverter 1 and 1.5 ton and Samsung inverter 1.5 ton. In 1.5 ton Samsung is the best. it cools the room on first floor very quickly. While in 1 ton Haier is better choice than gree in my opinion. Haier turbo cooling and quite mode is amazing.in quite mode it only takes 2.5amp which helps in running it on solar inverter.

Hi, Brother i just bought the same HSU-12HNH/DC(W) a couple of days ago. I am using it in night. But problem is after continues operation of 7 to 8 hours it can hardly cool my room even temperature set at 29 and using the same amps 5+ during this. After 4am when Ambient Termp is also about 27 then it start reducing amps and work on 2+ amps. Please let me know what setting you are using. My room size is ideal 12 by 8.

In Turbo mode setting it consume about 6.5 amps
In Quite mode it consume about 5 amps

[JustFarooq]

Hi, Brother i just bought the same HSU-12HNH/DC(W) a couple of days ago. I am using it in night. But problem is after continues operation of 7 to 8 hours it can hardly cool my room even temperature set at 29 and using the same amps 5+ during this. After 4am when Ambient Termp is also about 27 then it start reducing amps and work on 2+ amps. Please let me know what setting you are using. My room size is ideal 12 by 8.

In Turbo mode setting it consume about 6.5 amps
In Quite mode it consume about 5 amps

Does it have soft start????

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[devilslayer]

OK thanks for sharing this info. what about the cooling ? Is it as good as with a non-inveter AC?

Cooling is fine, more or less similar to my Gree Non Inverter one

[seo.jawad]

My Dawlance Inverter works till 145 Volts perfectly, thoug at 145 it takes around 9amps bt still works.

Bro, I need to know about your Dawlance Inverter ac performance, electric consumption and monthly bill.