Japanese used cars on Port

[Alcatraz]

@ sharabi
are these jdm altos and miras equipped with immobilizer?

[Sharabhi]

@Alcatraz dont know about this option in Mira and Alto actually i personally dont import 660cc cars because in japan a genuine 4 grade car is expensive and costing is same as its available in market so i used to get kind of replies that ur demand in same or high as compare to market then why should we take from you. So mostly i import above 1000cc cars. But if u r interested and wanted to pay according to the worth of the car then i dont have any issue importing that one for u.

[Alcatraz]

^^ can you plz suggest some thing good in 6- 7 lac range.

[Vaqas1]

For how much can we get 2007 Vitz R grade preferably Manual or Auto? Budget is low around 850... Or Passo if that can come in this budget?

[Sharabhi]

@Alcatraz in 6-7 lacks u can get Mitsubishi EK 4-door 660cc, Daihatsu Mira 2-door New Shape.

@Vaqas1 yes u can get Vitz old shape means Non-Facelift Model in 850-9lacks depending on car exterior and interior condition and mileage and Auction Price.

[Vaqas1]

thanks, How about Passo?

[aakbar]

@ Sharabhi...I'm looking for 2007-08 Rolla Axio in Grade 4 min. (X or G grade doesn't matter) Please advise if i should go for an import or I can find a decent one in local market? I've checked Islamabad market but most of the imported rollas here have no auction sheet provided by the dealers. Can you help me find a good one? Plz give me a rough estimate how much it will cost me for a decent car.

[handsome_phantom]

@sharabi

I need your help regarding interior clip for 660cc JDM alto. Can you get me those?

[Sharabhi]

@Vaqas1 2007 Passo clean car cost u around 770-825,000/-

@aakbar i have one for sale if u are interested price is fixed 15lacks i have auction sheet and original export certificate as well. check the below link of my add and also in my thread u can find video of the car.

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/vehicles-bikes/196161-toyota-corolla-axio-2007-2wd-nze-141-a

@handsome_phantom below is the reference pic of Daihatsu Mira from 2007/09 upto present shape is same.

[SanaUllah11]

@sharabi

Brother you again are wrong in your two statements.

1. You have calculated the duty of 2009 Prius @ 1% depreciation. In actual the depreciation rate on Hybrid cars has been fixed at 2% per month in recent budget.

2.you told someone that he can't import old shape premio. In actual one can still import old shape premio as months are not counted for age restriction policy of 5 years. Yo can import any car which was manufactured in January 2007 and onwards.

[Sharabhi]

@SanaUllah11

Buddy iam not wrong in my any statements below are your answers according to your false information which u have seen in websites of FBR and giving me reference of that SRO which was passed after June 01,2012.

a. First of all hybrid cars are not cleared according to that SRO if yes then prove me that u have cleared a Hybrid car after June 2012 if u cant prove so plz dont poke in my thread, i know better than you.

b. Regarding my comment of importing Old Shape Premio as according to law only cars which are 60months old are allowed to import max u can increase to 62 months means right now its 2012/08 so it will be 2007/06. I know i can import a 2007/January car but what if custom confiscate the car and put in custom's auction and it will be risky so i dont recommend any such kind of car where their is any risk involved because i have a commitment with my customer's and i dont earn money on risks on somebody's hard earn money because for my every customer is like iam purchasing a car from japan.

So next time when u replied on my thread make sure your information is correct and btw again for your 3rd post on my thread guess what your are new to Pakwheels or maybe u just made ur second I.D. just for my thread.

Sweet dreams

[SanaUllah11]

@sharabi
FBR is not an individual like you who gives wrong information and then insists on it. This country is actually run by FBR who makes the budget and collects revenue on which this country runs. If they have issued a SRO and it is placed on their website then how can the custom officials refuses to accept it. You can sue them in court any time if they do this. Actually they were not applying this SRO on cars which were shipped from Japan before 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012. But the cars which were shipped after 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012 are cleared ny this new SRO. I have not imported any Hybrid car recently but my friends and known persons who are very big importers have cleared lot of Hybrid cars @ 2 depreciation. Also let me tell you one interesting fact, the change in rate of depreciation and the reduction of 25 % duty, both are mentioned in same SRO. How can the custom officials are implementing one clause and refusing the other clause of the same SRO? Can this be possible man?

Secondly can you show me any official documents where it is written that you can only import 60 months old cars? Instead of months, limit of 5 years is mentioned in every official document of Customs department. Also let me tell you another interesting fact, the year of manufacturing is checked by Custom officials though a Japanese Chassis Code book which only shows the year of manufacturing not month of manufacturing. I bet that you have not seen this book or heard about that. Hundreds of cars older than 60 months are cleared every month. You can check this by calling any experienced importer or Clearing Agent in Karachi.

Also you didn’t replied completely to my post on Page 34, in which I have pointed out your other two wrong statements. Are you also correct in these two statements?

In the last, I wana say that brother you are not so important and i am not so free that I would make another ID just for replying in your thread. I usually don’t read threads in the forums. I just login to pakwheels for seeing adds. I read your thread just because it is related to my business and also I found the pictures of cars at Karachi por very interesting. I just read the first and last five pages of this thread and observed many wrong statements you have made. I just replied here because you are showing people that you are very experienced in car import business but in fact your just know 50 % and presuming for the rest of 50%.

[Vajih102]

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Secondly can you show me any official documents where it is written that you can only import 60 months old cars? Instead of months, limit of 5 years is mentioned in every official document of Customs department. Also let me tell you another interesting fact, the year of manufacturing is checked by Custom officials though a Japanese Chassis Code book which only shows the year of manufacturing not month of manufacturing. I bet that you have not seen this book or heard about that. Hundreds of cars older than 60 months are cleared every month. You can check this by calling any experienced importer or Clearing Agent in Karachi.

But every dealer/importer asks the month of manufacture when I ask about getting a vehicle from abroad! You are truly the first person who has given this info.

The rest of your reply is very valuable too; I guess I will have to see through all your remaining three posts!

[SanaUllah11]

@Vajih102

Brother some says month and some says year of manufacture. These both are the same things. Actually they want to know the year of manufacture. Now i tell you why. In Japan year of manufacturing is not mentioned in any of the cars related documents. They only mention First Month Of registration as shown in left corner of each auction sheet e.g 19/3 means its first month of registration is March 2007. Now there are many cars which are manufactured in Nov or Dec 2006 but registered in Jan or Feb 2007. Now if you don't inquire from the Japanese about the manufacturing Year and import any of such car then this car will be confiscated by Customs here. That is why dealers /Importers always asked you to confirm the manufacturing year from Japanese as it is not mentioned on any of the documents.

[Vajih102]

Thank you for your swift yet detailed explanation. Rest, we talk via PM.

[Sharabhi]

@Sanaullah1 post proof of 2% depreciation is applied on hybrid cars then give me reference of FBR. Post scan copies of GD Files of hybrid cars which shows pay order amount of custom is according to 2% depreciation per month.

and regarding old shape premio today i confirmed yes u r right but their is some extra charges more to clear these cars.

and i know u are well experienced person so plz kindly make ur own thread so that people will gather an experienced information from your thread. Peace.

[Sharabhi]

@asimm76 BELOW ESTIMATE OF OLD SHAPE PREMIO 2007/05 (Manufactured) F Package

CAR SOLD IN 6,38,000jp yen

BELOW COST OF 2007/05 F PACKAGE PREMIO SOLD IN 6,38,000jp yen

a. Auction Price: 6,38,000jp yen x 1.24=Rs 7,91,120/-
b. C&F Karachi: 1,30,000jp yen x 1.24=Rs 1,61,200/-
c. Book charges: Rs 15,000/-
d. Custom duty on 1500cc: USD 6160x96=Rs 5,91,360/-
e. Excise Pay Order: Rs 5000/-
f. Warehouse charges: Rs 10,000/-
g. Delivery Order charges: Rs 10,000/-
h. Custom stamp challan: Rs 500/-
i. Clearing and other charges: Rs 22,000/-

TOTAL ESTIMATE COSTING OF OLD SHAPE PREMIO F PACKAGE: Rs 16,06,180/-

[AZEEMMAJEED]

@sharabi
FBR is not an individual like you who gives wrong information and then insists on it. This country is actually run by FBR who makes the budget and collects revenue on which this country runs. If they have issued a SRO and it is placed on their website then how can the custom officials refuses to accept it. You can sue them in court any time if they do this. Actually they were not applying this SRO on cars which were shipped from Japan before 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012. But the cars which were shipped after 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012 are cleared ny this new SRO. I have not imported any Hybrid car recently but my friends and known persons who are very big importers have cleared lot of Hybrid cars @ 2 depreciation. Also let me tell you one interesting fact, the change in rate of depreciation and the reduction of 25 % duty, both are mentioned in same SRO. How can the custom officials are implementing one clause and refusing the other clause of the same SRO? Can this be possible man?

Secondly can you show me any official documents where it is written that you can only import 60 months old cars? Instead of months, limit of 5 years is mentioned in every official document of Customs department. Also let me tell you another interesting fact, the year of manufacturing is checked by Custom officials though a Japanese Chassis Code book which only shows the year of manufacturing not month of manufacturing. I bet that you have not seen this book or heard about that. Hundreds of cars older than 60 months are cleared every month. You can check this by calling any experienced importer or Clearing Agent in Karachi.

Also you didn’t replied completely to my post on Page 34, in which I have pointed out your other two wrong statements. Are you also correct in these two statements?

In the last, I wana say that brother you are not so important and i am not so free that I would make another ID just for replying in your thread. I usually don’t read threads in the forums. I just login to pakwheels for seeing adds. I read your thread just because it is related to my business and also I found the pictures of cars at Karachi por very interesting. I just read the first and last five pages of this thread and observed many wrong statements you have made. I just replied here because you are showing people that you are very experienced in car import business but in fact your just know 50 % and presuming for the rest of 50%.

as far as I know 60 months is the exact limit not 5yrs and if its 5yr it technically same .Kaan ko aik taraf se pakro ya doosri taraf se to aik hi baat hai .

my personal experience and its a a fact even I was born in 19-01-1994 I got 18yrs old on 19-01-2012 so on even 18-01-2012 I cant apply for my CNIC

[drtariqazeem]

@sharabi
FBR is not an individual like you who gives wrong information and then insists on it. This country is actually run by FBR who makes the budget and collects revenue on which this country runs. If they have issued a SRO and it is placed on their website then how can the custom officials refuses to accept it. You can sue them in court any time if they do this. Actually they were not applying this SRO on cars which were shipped from Japan before 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012. But the cars which were shipped after 1[SUP]st[/SUP] July 2012 are cleared ny this new SRO. I have not imported any Hybrid car recently but my friends and known persons who are very big importers have cleared lot of Hybrid cars @ 2 depreciation. Also let me tell you one interesting fact, the change in rate of depreciation and the reduction of 25 % duty, both are mentioned in same SRO. How can the custom officials are implementing one clause and refusing the other clause of the same SRO? Can this be possible man?

@SanaUllah.. well if u are saying that there is new rule from FBR (SRO) that Hybrid Vehicles will be having 2% depriciation/month than 60 month old car will be 120% depriciated value or virtually no duty at all, what do u thnk about that ?? if its like this than everyone will be importing 100s of Prius and Civis Hybrids and we would see Hybrids like napak mehran on every road... there is about 800K to 850K expenditure on a 1500cc car which is 60 months old out of which almost 590K is custom duty ( make it around 470K for hybrid if additional 25% is added), so why they would loose all this revenue jux so that u can drive cheap luxury fuel efficient car??
If it is really 2% than plz post a complete estimate of 2008 Prius G-Touring edition here, it'll be really helpful.

@sharabhi brother i guess this Hybrid duty issue do need some light... i knw u confirmed it previously and mentioned it on page 7 or 9 may be but may be u can re-check and confirm the exact thng again... Rest u are doing a great job so keep it up.

@Both... It should be a healthy discussion with positive criticism (if any).... we all are on the same side... cheers(H)

[Shahabnasir]

a sad but interesing fact is the prices in the market are not driven by the top condition imported JDM car, instead by the cheaper repaired ones luring more buyers and forcing even the honest dealer to import damaged cars.

at least 80% of the buyers will never doubt the imported car was ever damaged.