JDMs don't need Tuning

[SER_GTR]

I want to give this guy a mitsi galant with GDI engine, it was an epic JDM car - let him run it with his "beloved awesome oils" and no tuning - lets see how far he gets

Maybe Immortal GDI Or Very Strange one....! Who Knows.....Because On PW's....Magic Happens

[GoodMan7]

No Hard Feelings But Why I See Every Of Your Topic/Post End Up On Oil And Its Brand...Use This And That????Make Engine Immortal...else 20w-50 will curse your engine and soo......... Just Saying As I Note its always like that

Its Like A Romantic Movie Always Ending In A Good Way.......There Love WINS...Here OIL Wins.....Aah....!!

If You Can't Figure Out The Diff In PDM And JDM As Say PDM Need These TOONING's...JDM's Don't....SO Its Quiet Unreal My Dear Friend....!!

A Sane Person WHo Knows Something ABout Cars Also Knows It Very Well That ECU's are There For All The Things In EFI Cars .....!!

PDM Is No Other Cursed Than JDM's...Its Same As Those....!

this is what i will call a perfect post, with excellent sense of maturity, humbelness, politness and soberness. Thank you vey much sir, i really like the way you have responded.
Here i found lot of well knolwedged persons like zulfiqar, rollonbigmama, rms667, omerabdullah, strikerx, salik668, etc. But i want to say that your maturity is far above than all these guys. As we are here to learn from each other, but what i have found here is mostly taunts, taunts and making humours. We know we all are different from each other, but keeping/doing here all kind of discussions within the circle of respect make it interesting for everyone learn. If for example mr. X has posted thread about something which he is not fully aware or want to learn, then instead to replying him in a polite way, they start laughing and striking/discussing in insulting way. Oh i wish i quote here the most weird examples quoted by most senior person like zulfiqar in some recent posts in which he wrote like using sperm whale in car as engine oil, or sell wife juellery, or smack that guy, etc etc. Including the moderator vchange whom i have seriously prayed to GOD to make him more mature in his actions and GIVE him more WISDOM.
And the captain zulfiqar and his recent thread, OMG, seldom there must be some post which are without taunt or without some cheap examples. I think your above post is something they all should learn how to write politely, humanly, with courtsey and more importantly with respectfully.
Just your a bit of writting skill has made yourgoodself far distinctive than these all gentlemen i've discussed here. My all best wishes for all the gentleman here but especially for you and miannasim. Recently i have read his posts and yes his vision and writting skills are also as brighter as yours.

[Xulfiqar]

some recent posts in which he wrote like using sperm whale in car as engine oil,

Sperm whale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- sperm whale
Whale oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <---- uses of sperm whale oil or tran oil.

It takes a little effort to learn

Now for the other bits - every single post of yours starts as "I know this for a fact" while it may be completely obtuse.
you are then asked for fact - you reply - you feel it, or your Pakistani market is your factual evidence.
when corrected - you are offended.

e.g. when you said that a MB mechanic told you not to wet oil filters, he has no reason to be a mechanic for any brand. (it pays to learn) and this is basic 101 in hydraulic maintenance - its called wetting of media. Thats why I said to smack said mechanic, the guy is either lying or you took it as the above sperm whale example.

Before running you learn how to walk - the world is not a bed of roses, not everyone will say - array pyare bhai aisa nahi hai. You have to learn the core of the idea rather than the "tamheed" of the idea.

[cooldevil]

jdm's does'nt even require fuel!

[Xulfiqar]

jdm's does'nt even require fuel!

no - JDM are so awesome they require JDM air to properly work

[Huzaifa_Khalid]

Look Dear, We Know JDM'S Are Good Car's. But They Do Require Maintenance, If You'll Not Change The Required Parts And Don't Do It's Tuning It Would Curse You. JDM'S And PDM's Are Same Cars Just That PDM'S Lack Quality.

Cheers!

[LordOsama]

this is what i will call a perfect post, with excellent sense of maturity, humbelness, politness and soberness. Thank you vey much sir, i really like the way you have responded.
Here i found lot of well knolwedged persons like zulfiqar, rollonbigmama, rms667, omerabdullah, strikerx, salik668, etc. But i want to say that your maturity is far above than all these guys. As we are here to learn from each other, but what i have found here is mostly taunts, taunts and making humours. We know we all are different from each other, but keeping/doing here all kind of discussions within the circle of respect make it interesting for everyone learn. If for example mr. X has posted thread about something which he is not fully aware or want to learn, then instead to replying him in a polite way, they start laughing and striking/discussing in insulting way. Oh i wish i quote here the most weird examples quoted by most senior person like zulfiqar in some recent posts in which he wrote like using sperm whale in car as engine oil, or sell wife juellery, or smack that guy, etc etc. Including the moderator vchange whom i have seriously prayed to GOD to make him more mature in his actions and GIVE him more WISDOM.
And the captain zulfiqar and his recent thread, OMG, seldom there must be some post which are without taunt or without some cheap examples. I think your above post is something they all should learn how to write politely, humanly, with courtsey and more importantly with respectfully.
Just your a bit of writting skill has made yourgoodself far distinctive than these all gentlemen i've discussed here. My all best wishes for all the gentleman here but especially for you and miannasim. Recently i have read his posts and yes his vision and writting skills are also as brighter as yours.

I am a silent PW reader and that too regular. I don't post here unless really required as I consider myself still a noob and in process of learning the basics.

Responding because you post made me to it. I have always seen you promoting branding oils and discouraging local or locally packed oils except for just the fact that they are packed locally. Anyways, coming back to your this specific post.

Reason is that you never ask for explanation, You never admit that this is what you feel which is a beginners experience and can wrong. Your every post is concluded with a verdict with an impression that it's 100% based on facts and scientific theories.

For example look at your opening post

Airwave
Belta
Boon
Cocoa
Classica
Esse
Every
Fielder
Hijet
March
Mira
Mocco
Move
Passo
Probox
Pirius
Rush
Terios
Vitz
Yaris
Etc. etc.

All these JDMs are so sophisticated and well assembled cars and there is no need to take them workshop regularly for Tunning. Just like we take our PDM regularly for Tuning after 5K. But JDMs, I think, don't need it. Just feed the right set of oils (Engine, Transmission & good Fuel) which is very important and keep them driving nicely with light foot. After 5~10K, just once go to any workshop and ask them to clean the plugs. That?s all.

Just once You said I THINK, DONT NEED IT. The post was conclude with take them to workshop for plug cleaning and THAT'S ALL.

Now how you want the members to respond?

Obviously the ones will more knowledge will laugh at you or will make fun of your post because you never asked for their input you just shared what You think is true. If it's wrong then you should be able to withstand criticism as well.

Lastly about Xulfiqar, his is a nice guy I asked him a few questions about my car in pm, he responded at his earliest and was always helpful. He is surely the biggest car guru on PW - among those I know, and when you gonna tease a guru about something you don't even have an idea with expressions like you are the boss. You surely are asking them to put a bullet in your head & he obviously don't mind doing it

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[ahmedk06]

I have bought poison for me n all friends
Plzzzzz fatiha parh Dena bhai

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For anybody with an IQ a little over 80 would definitely understand what I was trying to say, Timing chains were introduced by many manufacturers as old as probably "what your age is right now" so come out of that little cocoon that you have built around yourself by being over the top in changing the old school timing belts. You keep on changing them and writing over here because it is so NEW to pakwheels forum users and people do not even know about it.

[ahmedk06]

NOW? Quote another example, All Toyota Corolla and Honda City units after 2003 in Pakistan have Timing Chains, there has to be "something" connecting the engine pulleys, no engine can run without a "timing" something around it.

Ye tou poraani baat hai

What good are those assemblies to us? The cars come here in used and abused forms, more than 80% of the imported vehicles are tempered, new ones directly from the factory cost arms and legs.

Do you know that a new Land Cruiser ZX v8 Ltd. less than 1000km costs more than 25 million? A mark X more than 7 million? A regular X premio more than 4.5 million?

Quality tou USDM or UKDM ki bhi bohat aala hai lekin ham kia karen? Car tou hamen used he milti hai, ALLAH knows kitnay axle boots JDM hoty hain or kitnay Karachi port domestic market. lol.

Oh, thanks for pointing out that there is timing around the engine, I never knew it before nor the PW users. And also thanks for checking the price list on JDM cars for me while forgetting the same car cost in Pakistan is 3 x its price abroad, Accord at 11 million is a joke for me and prius at 4.5 million is a bigger joke. You keep on buying Mehran with no seat belts and a Honda with a resonating trunk at 2.5 million. Why argue in the 1st place when you have no respect for JDM cars, Do you have any idea what difference the JDM made in the market and how it pressurized the local car manufacturer to install basic accessories which no one even had thought of. A honda with a navi is only due to people asking for it because they saw the same feature in a 12 year old tempered vehicle, right. Maybe in next few years we have rear tinted windows and a few side curtain airbags in even smallest of cars like a swift. People like you maybe happy who buy santro,s for 7.5 lac with a desi neela gunbad manufactured radiator and a corolla with oil filled shocks and no ABS even in 2012 but most of us know what value for money is, good JDM,s are in market and they have maintained a very solid repute as well. vitz which wiped off santro in 2006 is selling for more than for what it was imported for, while santro is not to be seen even on bricks. or probably running around with a K6A , Get your facts straight, A good JDM is still a better choice.

[shuja11]

Holy **** this is hilarious.

as i see it there is a thing called owner's manual that comes with every car.

it explains what is supposed to be done after a certain interval. agar botha shouk ho to bunda thora early wohi kam kerwa sakta hai. that is what i do.

just follow the manual. i guess people people who have it dont read it.

i have a jdm n it duznt have a manual with it. so it sux that i dont know when to do what.

i think most of jdms dont come with owner's manuals and that is why people use them as the maintenance fits their pocket.

incase any1 has a owner's manual for 2010 alto. PLEASEEEE i beg of u i need its copy or scan. most probably only japanese main ho ga but kuj to pata chalay ga.

[fawadakbarkhan]

Oh, thanks for pointing out that there is timing around the engine, I never knew it before nor the PW users. And also thanks for checking the price list on JDM cars for me while forgetting the same car cost in Pakistan is 3 x its price abroad, Accord at 11 million is a joke for me and prius at 4.5 million is a bigger joke. You keep on buying Mehran with no seat belts and a Honda with a resonating trunk at 2.5 million. Why argue in the 1st place when you have no respect for JDM cars, Do you have any idea what difference the JDM made in the market and how it pressurized the local car manufacturer to install basic accessories which no one even had thought of. A honda with a navi is only due to people asking for it because they saw the same feature in a 12 year old tempered vehicle, right. Maybe in next few years we have rear tinted windows and a few side curtain airbags in even smallest of cars like a swift. People like you maybe happy who buy santro,s for 7.5 lac with a desi neela gunbad manufactured radiator and a corolla with oil filled shocks and no ABS even in 2012 but most of us know what value for money is, good JDM,s are in market and they have maintained a very solid repute as well. vitz which wiped off santro in 2006 is selling for more than for what it was imported for, while santro is not to be seen even on bricks. or probably running around with a K6A , Get your facts straight, A good JDM is still a better choice.

Okay I am still against JDMs, kill me.

I will buy a Premio rather than a Civic or a Prius instead of a Corolla. But those poor abused phucked dinkies, axios, fielders and Corolla variants are pure junk, nothing else. I have never been impressed by someone who paid 17-20 Lakh for a certain used JDM Corolla variant. A civic or a Corolla XLi over that any day any time. The new car interior is all that satisfies you everytime you sit in for the next year.

Last but not the least, they're new and have warranty. And let me clear you the confusions, no Honda has a resonating trunk, those are all crap talks. Like another one over here who said "Civic is very unstable at 100 kph". Rakhi hoi logon ne mehr khan hoti hai guppain civic ki maarty hain.

And oh, FYFI, 11 million for accord and 4.5 for prius, don't buy them. No one is arguing beyond Civic and Corolla here. haha!

The only reason I replied you is the assembly lines. Nothing is different except for the need of a more strict quality check, which used to be tgere since 2009-2010. Ye to bhutto rajj k lutto or sheron ki jori ne Pakistan ko ulta k rakh dia hai bas.

You still need to kill me because I am against dinki JDMs and abused Corollas from Japan. JDM is Premio and beyond, nothing else.

Be you satisfied with crap JDMs exported to us as junk, no one will frown an eyebrow. I would prefer an only abs city to 15000000000 air bag wali fielder no matter what.

[LordOsama]

FYFI, 11 million for accord and 4.5 for prius, don't buy them. No one is arguing beyond Civic and Corolla here. haha!

As per my understanding these are also CBU's imported from Japan or Thailand maybe? And the notorious price they carry is due to the fact they were actually imported 'Zero Meter' & not auctioned somewhere in a deserted Island. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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[coooooldude]

For anybody with an IQ a little over 80 would definitely understand what I was trying to say, Timing chains were introduced by many manufacturers as old as probably "what your age is right now" so come out of that little cocoon that you have built around yourself by being over the top in changing the old school timing belts. You keep on changing them and writing over here because it is so NEW to pakwheels forum users and people do not even know about it.

Oooops cool down bro
At pw we all r friends
I was just kidding
Take it light

N actually I know about timing chains n their function
But sadly
JDMs don't need tuning
This thing is disgrace

U know rolls Royce produce best cars in terms of reliability
75% of rolls Royce ever produced since 1906 are still on roads
N the age of a rolls Royce car is 75+ years
N that car needs regular service at 7500kms

Tuning has already been described by guru zulfiqar n fawad bhai

So cool down n take things lightly
No need to fight
You wont find a guy more patient than me here

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[fawadakbarkhan]

As per my understanding these are also CBU's imported from Japan or Thailand maybe? And the notorious price they carry is due to the fact they were actually imported 'Zero Meter' & not auctioned somewhere in a deserted Island. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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True sir!

[fawadakbarkhan]

And don't turn the topic to JDM vs PKDM! Jis ne 12 lakh ki dinki leni hai wo zaroor lay, jis ne 2010 model City leni hai wo bhi zaroor lay. Personal Preferences always for the win!

[SER_GTR]

this is what i will call a perfect post, with excellent sense of maturity, humbelness, politness and soberness. Thank you vey much sir, i really like the way you have responded.
Here i found lot of well knolwedged persons like zulfiqar, rollonbigmama, rms667, omerabdullah, strikerx, salik668, etc. But i want to say that your maturity is far above than all these guys. As we are here to learn from each other, but what i have found here is mostly taunts, taunts and making humours. We know we all are different from each other, but keeping/doing here all kind of discussions within the circle of respect make it interesting for everyone learn. If for example mr. X has posted thread about something which he is not fully aware or want to learn, then instead to replying him in a polite way, they start laughing and striking/discussing in insulting way. Oh i wish i quote here the most weird examples quoted by most senior person like zulfiqar in some recent posts in which he wrote like using sperm whale in car as engine oil, or sell wife juellery, or smack that guy, etc etc. Including the moderator vchange whom i have seriously prayed to GOD to make him more mature in his actions and GIVE him more WISDOM.
And the captain zulfiqar and his recent thread, OMG, seldom there must be some post which are without taunt or without some cheap examples. I think your above post is something they all should learn how to write politely, humanly, with courtsey and more importantly with respectfully.
Just your a bit of writting skill has made yourgoodself far distinctive than these all gentlemen i've discussed here. My all best wishes for all the gentleman here but especially for you and miannasim. Recently i have read his posts and yes his vision and writting skills are also as brighter as yours.

You Can Say Same Thing My Dear In Just 2 Lines...Be Straight Always.....Say What You Think..... Its A Right Thing To Say What You Think Of Others Rather Than Bragging On Backs...I Like It This Way And Want Others To Be Same For Atleast Me...!!

I Say What I Think ....!! SO There's No 2 Cent Advice Needed Here ....!! I AM No One To STOP You Posting But There's Difference In Reality And Just Making Things....!!

I Really Have Doubts On That So I Said....!! No Hard Feelings And Personal Things.....!!! Its Open FORUM My Dear....You Will Get Good And Bad Responses.....That's Part Of LEARNING If You Ask Me And Want Yourself To Learn Something .....If You Don't Than Just Stand With ROD In NECK And Keep On Going...!!

[SER_GTR]

Holy **** this is hilarious.

as i see it there is a thing called owner's manual that comes with every car.

it explains what is supposed to be done after a certain interval. agar botha shouk ho to bunda thora early wohi kam kerwa sakta hai. that is what i do.

just follow the manual. i guess people people who have it dont read it.

i have a jdm n it duznt have a manual with it. so it sux that i dont know when to do what.

i think most of jdms dont come with owner's manuals and that is why people use them as the maintenance fits their pocket.

incase any1 has a owner's manual for 2010 alto. PLEASEEEE i beg of u i need its copy or scan. most probably only japanese main ho ga but kuj to pata chalay ga.

Manual's Are For Illiterate You See For People Like Me And YOU.....

The Experts Just Use Good OIL And Get Away With Their SUPER DOPER Motor OIL...And Make Engine Last Millions Of KM's :')

[SER_GTR]

no - JDM are so awesome they require JDM air to properly work

JDM's Are So Awesome That Even A Chocolate Looking Engine From Deep Inside Cost More Than NEW PDM's......

Its Like PIA.....Its For Special People............Bakamal LOG ...Lajawab Service

[StrikerX]

Manual's Are For Illiterate You See For People Like Me And YOU.....

The Experts Just Use Good OIL And Get Away With Their SUPER DOPER Motor OIL...And Make Engine Last Millions Of KM's :')

That's an understatement mate, understatement

on another note: Damn your headline style caps Used to post that way myself a couple of years back

[SER_GTR]

That's My Habit.....I Just Love To SHIFT Either Its Car Or Computer