KIA STONIC Owners Fanclub Discussion Thread

[chinyoti]

read CSUV, Yes its definetly not a SUV its just simply a raised cross over with fender flairs to replicate. Suzuki should consider Hustler or Spresso type cars in similar range after end of WagonR.

Ideally this is a raised version of the Kia Rio hatchback. Indonesia and India had a Celerio cross variant which was raised and had fender flares. Similarly suzuki once launched SX4 and SX4 Cross in Indian markets. So it's just that.

Coming in Cultus price territory is big for Kia.

Also, people going crazy over the Toyota Raize / Daihatsu Rocky this would be a brand new zero meter 1.4L option instead of 5 year old turbo 1.0L Raize.

Btw alot of Imported 1.0L Turbo Stonics are also avaliable in the grey imports market.

Also, Since Picanto hasn't made any major impact and is the cheapest automatic transmission car available in the market. It's still struggling, with End of WagonR it has genuine potential too.

[nab.ahm09]

i will disagree
They relaunched EX which was flopped earlier
Even now at this price, people prefer sedans although they are most basic ones with no features still 1.2 CVT is best seller as its family car
Swift is getting all sales due to all features and fuel average so value for money factor
In case of Stonic EX, its again basic car no features, all are in EX+ so if i am in market to buy, if i need more space i will buy sedan, if need features and good car performance wise and consumption wise as well, swift is the way to go

Consider resale part as well, when EX+ is nt selling well then launching EX with no features wont gain more sales

I drove stonic EX+ feels premium no doubt, bt space wise it felt congested especially front seat if u r 6+ height

[Thinking]

yes if someone wants a sedan there are other appropriate options.

however in case of hatches stonic is the way to go. budget wise both ex+ and ex make sense.

Swift is too much plastic and totally localized. i think its engine and rim are the only two things which are imported.

i have seen a very good resale developing for stonic. i dont see many for resale in the market.

new sales have started picking up significantly. we get to see new stonics on the road on daily basis now in twin cities.

[fastian04]

Swift has 2 major reason of sales, mileage and looks. Stonic has excellent finish and looks but mileage factor is critical thing at this price range. EX+ makes all the sense, the basic stonic is bound to be a failure for sure

[nab.ahm09]

EX will be still flop as you can get EX+ in used in this range
Buying EX doesn't make any sense earlier as well as now

Pakistani market dont judge on build quality as such, they are more into mileage and performance and on both points swift is better than EX+ and this time suzuki gave most of the features as well

Alto is selling like crazy having worst build quality even cultus having crazy price around 43 45, still sold 252 last month whereas picanto has better build and even cheaper still nowhere to be found on roads even

[StoneCold316]

still nowhere to be found on roads even <---- that phrase is wrong bro.. there are so many in khi .. alto selling like crazy only reason we got not choice middle class people like us have no choice thats it.

idk about cultus i did not see single brand new cultus in khi.. 45 is lot for cultus

[chinyoti]

Cultus has fixed company, MNC, Goverment sales for 1000cc category. Cultus will sell even at 7 million.

Swift cvt being cheaper then cultus AGS is a clear example, 16" alloys, Android Stereo and 6 airbags are minimum + CVT gear box over a crap AGS and still cheaper.

I am seeing alot of Picantos too. Being the cheapest AT available in market.

[chinyoti]

Why do u keep comparing EX with EX+,

EX offers what Swift GL, Cultus VXL, City 1.2, Yaris Gli offers its a very good competition in the category for its price.

Ex+ is 7 lac more pricier at that point interest definitely changes.

As I said before 4 to 5 million category being under the 25% GST category is very hot i guess the only category with so many options right now.

Cultus, Swift, City, Yaris, Stonic, Yaris hatch, Toyota Raize, Toyota Passo, imported 1.0L Stonic aswell.

I'm not sure how is the Nissan Altima 1000cc priced in Pakistan but that is also being imported.

[ArslanNawaz]

Ex is a great buy

[drlights]

I personally find more Stonics on the road now, and I believe the main differentiating factor could be the build quality of the car. Unfortunately, yes, very few people in Pakistan admire build quality over fuel average (as seen in the case of the Alto), but I think KIA is aiming for a more specific segment and I respect that.

I also find the range of movement in the front seats, especially the back and forth adjustment, to be way more than what you get in a Corolla Grande. That might be why there’s less leg space in the back, which is an issue, but honestly not a big deal for the average Pakistani height.

The trunk could play a role when comparing it to sedans like the City, which gives you around 500 liters versus the Stonic’s 300-ish. But if someone doesn’t need that much trunk space, the Stonic does the job just fine.

The only thing I’d personally change is the transmission. I feel like a CVT or even a DCT would’ve worked better, especially for fuel average in bumper-to-bumper traffic. It already gives great average on open roads and long drives, and even if you’re in the mood to drive a little fast and furious, it performs well. The drive is honestly beautiful if you treat it right.

The EX variant, in my opinion, is a really good buy. It balances features and build quality well, and the kind of premium feel you get inside a Stonic, I don’t think you’ll find that in a 1.3 Yaris, 1.2 City, or Swift. Maybe Alsvin comes close, but for me, not quite.

I’ve also had good experiences with KIA staff at two different showrooms, in Islamabad and Lahore. Can’t say the same about Suzuki dealerships from what I’ve seen.

There’s also this idea floating around that Stonic parts are more expensive. Personally, I find that hard to believe, because almost all car parts are expensive now. Yes, you’re limited to KIA dealerships, but for people living in bigger cities, that’s not really a problem. It’s just not the most practical option for rural areas.

I think KIA reintroducing the EX shows there’s still consumer interest, and they’ve clearly done their research. Sure, trust in KIA has been a bit shaky due to sudden price drops and shortages, but I still think it’s a really good car for the right kind of buyer.

This is my personal opinion, I'm sure there might be disagreements but all love!

[StoneCold316]

build Quality i totally agreed prob is price is higher side in this u have other options too with diggi..

back seat space is not good also

[drlights]

Big news from KIA!
5 Lac is too extreme for EX+, very bold move. Don't think the market will react positively, but at least profit for new owners

[ifadey]

Is Picanto MT discontinued? It's not mentioned in the list

[fastian04]

Pathetic company, once again killed Stonic

[fastian04]

they did it before as well ans Stonic became a massive fail, they are doing the same again. Shameless management

[drlights]

Agreed, very risky.

[chinyoti]

It's not just 5 lac. And they did nothing. SWIFT AND Stonic both prices were revised to put them under 25% GST.

What you fail to understand is that now again Stonic EX+ comes under 25% GST status.

Hopefully they will revise it again.

YARIS Gli MT, GLi AT and Ativ MT come under 18% GST. Look at the pricr of ATIV AT 1.3 it's 900,000 more pricier.

Similarly honda is selling 1.2 CVT for only rs. 40,000 extra.

Where as Hondas AT variant was always 160/180k more pricier then the manual variant.

Suzuki sells AGS for price tag of rs. 300,000 on Cultus and 240,000 for CVT Swift on top of Cultus VXLs price.

So it's alot of messed up facts.

[itshamzayo]

Lol they start getting some sales finally for a dead product and then they again raise the prices like crazy. Lucky motors is consistently proving to be a terrible local partner for Kia.

Heard from someone who booked EX+ and now is trying to cancel that most people seem to be going for cancellation now and the dealer and factory are getting very desperate in trying to convince buyers not to cancel by convincing to shift the orders to EX or just wait a bit cause they feel this decision is gonna be reversed.

[itshamzayo]

Cultus is the most insanely priced car in the local market in my opinion. I seriously don't get how the buyers of it buy Cultus for that price when they can get swift, city or Yaris for around that price.

[chinyoti]

King of 1000cc cars. Fixed sales for MNCs and Government sector. It will sell even at 7 million