Liana owners & fan club

[iamadee]

goto any well reputed kharadia, and he will do the job for you, all they do is they grind the shimms to set the gap properly and it does the job for little problems, if your problem has gone major then you might have to go for head job......

[AsadGhumman]

my liana lxi cng consumption is good like 180 km on long but its petrol avg is worse,around 7 to 8 km/l,i have taken it to adil zafar motors,3s,they said ur car tapets are tight,and liana dont have adjustable tapets u need to do whole head job done,they gave me estimate of around 50k,and i said i m happy with that consumption.my car is 85k driven,what u guys suggest me

They are trying to rip you off. Wait for Aamir bhai's comments.

[Skill]

@ Skill Bhai Thank you sir you were very right.
After posting the 1st comment went to model town auto market. Electrician removed the headlight with a lot of hassle and we took it to light repairing guy. He checked it and said that the sleeve being made of plastic in which the adjustment screw rotates has gone flat and there is no thread left for the screw to move front and back. He said to repair them he has to keep the lights for 2 days to which I said no. We put the lights back and installed 55 watt 8000k HID's and because of bad adjustment of high beam pointing downwards there is no glare for the oncoming traffic but visibility is great. Will post pics of the result INSHALLAH tomorrow.
1 pic is of HID's and the other 2 of the oem bulbs which came with the car. Even after 5 years of use they still look new and I will keep them.

I think, this will ruin the shine of glass of your head lamp,try to avoid it.

[Skill]

hmmmmmmm........ many possibilities.......... plugs i guess r a month or two used......... replaced them wen i bought it........ advancer+emulator changed alongwith TB servicing few dayz bk which ran fine but only for a day or two..........air filter cleaned(ll change it)....... oil level of wat??????mobil oil??????? and venturi???????where is it located???????? it only gives problem idling......... otherwise no pick issues or powerloss or bakfire etc.......

Do your car behave like this only on cng?

[Skill]

my liana lxi cng consumption is good like 180 km on long but its petrol avg is worse,around 7 to 8 km/l,i have taken it to adil zafar motors,3s,they said ur car tapets are tight,and liana dont have adjustable tapets u need to do whole head job done,they gave me estimate of around 50k,and i said i m happy with that consumption.my car is 85k driven,what u guys suggest me

change your driving habits,you would never get 16/17 in city traffic.you might improve to 10 in city with all that expenditure of 50k.

[zank]

hmmmmmmm........ many possibilities.......... plugs i guess r a month or two used......... replaced them wen i bought it........ advancer+emulator changed alongwith TB servicing few dayz bk which ran fine but only for a day or two..........air filter cleaned(ll change it)....... oil level of wat??????mobil oil??????? and venturi???????where is it located???????? it only gives problem idling......... otherwise no pick issues or powerloss or bakfire etc.......

Is your idling stable over Petrol?
Which Plugs are you using?
If you have an after-market CNG, then there will be a venturi at the end of the pipe which connects the CNG kit to cumbustion chamber. But if you car has no issues of loss in pick/acceleration then that should be fine also.

Which engine oil are you using? do check its level with the dip stick, it should be in between the two marks over that stick.

If all above things seems fine, try adjusting the idling screw of the CNG kit over a hot car, lower it down to the full clockwise till the engine shuts down, then turn it anti-clockwise slowly till you feel that the engine has regained its required RPMs. RPMs should be in between 800-1000 over idling and engine should be running smoothly over that.

Let me know if that helps, if still not I feel its a valve related issue. If they are jammed, over petrol the car somehow manages to perform but over CNG (which has less power) it gives lower RPMs and can not maintain the engine.
But dont let anyone mess with the Head and Valves untill you are pretty sure that the problem is not due to anyother thing,

[muscle_man]

I think, this will ruin the shine of glass of your head lamp,try to avoid it.

@ Skill Thanks
hmm.. so I should stick with oem bulbs but visibility with them is really poor bro.
do you think installing fog lights will help and how much they will cost me?

[Skill]

@ Skill Thanks
hmm.. so I should stick with oem bulbs but visibility with them is really poor bro.
do you think installing fog lights will help and how much they will cost me?

fog lamps would surely add some thing.They are of 3800 a pair tw made and 16/1700 chinese.

[dr_adnanhidayat]

Do your car behave like this only on cng?

yup........RPM drop and shut offs only on cng......... on petrol it never shuts..........

[dr_adnanhidayat]

Is your idling stable over Petrol?yup.....on petrol its ok. Which Plugs are you using? plurs r NGK ones......... the stock which 3S suggest and sell. If you have an after-market CNG, then there will be a venturi at the end of the pipe which connects the CNG kit to cumbustion chamber. But if you car has no issues of loss in pick/acceleration then that should be fine also.yup..no loss...... Which engine oil are you using? ZIC do check its level with the dip stick, it should be in between the two marks over that stick.it touches the 2nd one..the top one If all above things seems fine, try adjusting the idling screw of the CNG kit over a hot car, lower it down to the full clockwise till the engine shuts down, then turn it anti-clockwise slowly till you feel that the engine has regained its required RPMs. RPMs should be in between 800-1000 over idling and engine should be running smoothly over that. Let me know if that helps, if still not I feel its a valve related issue. If they are jammed, over petrol the car somehow manages to perform but over CNG (which has less power) it gives lower RPMs and can not maintain the engine. But dont let anyone mess with the Head and Valves untill you are pretty sure that the problem is not due to anyother thing,

valve:o...thats scary......... i actually removed all the wiring and inserted bak........ since then its perfect........ the idling screw on cng kit used to raise the rpm for a while and then again after bit driving it used to get low......... but it did raise the rpm........ i guess wiring was messed up somewhere............ i think the car is ok now........ as since 4 days the RPM is stable...... normally on 8.... raises to 9 according to driving conditions....... if drive on higher rpm remains till 9...... till 8 or so for lower rpm.......... happy with it so far.......... lets c next........... but the valve thing is really scary:s

[iamadee]

good to hear your problem is fixed...

[Skill]

Dear Adnan,your car was good after the coil change,right?your is good on petrol,right?if anything related valves is happening inside the engine,there must be more symptoms like 1,rough idle which i do not think you are facing currently 2,too much heating,again i assume not a matter relating your problem,3 too high petrol consumption that is also not mentioned in any post of you.
So,most probably your car's problem is not mechanical,i personally feel it is electrical issue and as you already have undergone an electric repair work lately.
You must have to visit a suzuki scanner first to get to the actual cause,some times issues are minor but because of unawareness we provide chances to ordinary mechanics to play with our cars and mess.
ECU works with self diagnostic system which constantly monitor the circuits and their inputs.When it detects a problem,it illuminates the MIL (malfunction indication light) and informs you to address the components and find fault.Now how to find the fault,you will have to connect a scanner to its DLC port.
BUTT some times an error occurs inside like malfunctioning of some electric component and before you reach a workshop it is corrected by itself,here ecu stores a trouble code inside its live memory(these codes+the codes) which were not cleared by a scanner after a repair job from live memory ACTS some times and make ecu think that some thing is wrong.This act makes ecu work in ''safe mode'' like our home computers when we mess with its system files.
I hope you understand what i want to say,so first of all consult a scanner and for this as there are no scanners available for liana in abbotabad(you said) go to Nazir Autos G/8-4 islamabad, i have personally got my car's ecu checked from their scanners as a routine service, to clear previous codes and to know the actual acting codes.

[Skill]

there are couple of other "zubaida apa's totka to reset the ecu" BUT actual way is to connect a scanner.
Totka no 1,disconnect -ve cable from battery and then disconnect positive as well for half an hour the reconnect +ve first and -ve later.
Totka no 2,start the car and run some yards forward then without switching it off run it reverse for few yards and switch off, do this three times intermittently so to make ecu think multiple successive tours and shut offs.

[iamadee]

there are couple of other "zubaida apa's totka to reset the ecu" BUT actual way is to connect a scanner.
Totka no 1,disconnect -ve cable from battery and then disconnect positive as well for half an hour the reconnect +ve first and -ve later.
Totka no 2,start the car and run some yards forward then without switching it off run it reverse for few yards and switch off, do this three times intermittently so to make ecu think multiple successive tours and shut offs.

@amir appa sorry bhai ke totkay
This is good info....
specially the second one

[dr_adnanhidayat]

Dear Adnan,your car was good after the coil change,right?your is good on petrol,right?if anything related valves is happening inside the engine,there must be more symptoms like 1,rough idle which i do not think you are facing currently 2,too much heating,again i assume not a matter relating your problem,3 too high petrol consumption that is also not mentioned in any post of you.
So,most probably your car's problem is not mechanical,i personally feel it is electrical issue and as you already have undergone an electric repair work lately.
You must have to visit a suzuki scanner first to get to the actual cause,some times issues are minor but because of unawareness we provide chances to ordinary mechanics to play with our cars and mess.
ECU works with self diagnostic system which constantly monitor the circuits and their inputs.When it detects a problem,it illuminates the MIL (malfunction indication light) and informs you to address the components and find fault.Now how to find the fault,you will have to connect a scanner to its DLC port.
BUTT some times an error occurs inside like malfunctioning of some electric component and before you reach a workshop it is corrected by itself,here ecu stores a trouble code inside its live memory(these codes+the codes) which were not cleared by a scanner after a repair job from live memory ACTS some times and make ecu think that some thing is wrong.This act makes ecu work in ''safe mode'' like our home computers when we mess with its system files.
I hope you understand what i want to say,so first of all consult a scanner and for this as there are no scanners available for liana in abbotabad(you said) go to Nazir Autos G/8-4 islamabad, i have personally got my car's ecu checked from their scanners as a routine service, to clear previous codes and to know the actual acting codes.

thanx skill bro............ its running fyn now...... so i guess its ok now........ ya electrical prob it must b....... and scanner is a must....... thinking to get one of my own.......... any available??????

[dr_adnanhidayat]

good to hear your problem is fixed...

thanx bro....... LFC is a heaven........lol

[dr_adnanhidayat]

there are couple of other "zubaida apa's totka to reset the ecu" BUT actual way is to connect a scanner.
Totka no 1,disconnect -ve cable from battery and then disconnect positive as well for half an hour the reconnect +ve first and -ve later.
Totka no 2,start the car and run some yards forward then without switching it off run it reverse for few yards and switch off, do this three times intermittently so to make ecu think multiple successive tours and shut offs.

soon ll do these totkas................lol......... thanx skill bro.........

[ali_noor]

after how much kms liana needs to be head job done?mine is 85k driven,and why liana dont have adjustable tapets

[Skill]

after how much kms liana needs to be head job done?mine is 85k driven,and why liana dont have adjustable tapets

Not the matter of just liana,milage,bad fuel and oil,driving habits, incorrect tunings,wrong timing adjustments, determin such repairs.

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[mahmad786]

I am really scared of this fixed taped thingy. I think every Liana will have to got through it .........