Liana owners & fan club

[saboor73]

ok.so ive replaced water with caltex extended life coolant. (orange one) per liter cost is 650 PKR i had to buy 3 and equal amount of distilled water was added. now can someone guide me where exactly is the location of temperature gauge sensor ? when i first got installed T-stat valve from suzuki motors,the auto fan would kick in at 98C and take temp down to 92C. it took hardly 30 secs to bring temp down. but today when i came back home from office, i observed the fan kept working longer than normal.for like 2 mins or so.since it is still pretty cold here in pindi,i think it shouldve brought temp down with a min or so.

Follow radiator hose the point it connecting with engine you will find it there

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Follow radiator hose the point it connecting with engine you will find it there

the upper pipe of radiator youre talking about? if so, that is the sensor that kick radiator fan. i am talking about the sensor that controls the temperature gauge inside speedometer.

[enthusiastic.learner]

the upper pipe of radiator youre talking about? if so, that is the sensor that kick radiator fan. i am talking about the sensor that controls the temperature gauge inside speedometer.

If your temperature sensor has only 2 pins, then the ECU controls the radiator itself and there is no separate sender unit for the gauge. But if your sensor has 3 pins, then probably it is the sensor + sender. Did you burp the radiator after changing coolant? Might be possible that there is still some air inside the cooling system. In this case if there is a bubble of air sitting at the tip of the temperature sensor, it will see the engine as cold when it really is not and in this scenario, ECU could run the fan for longer duration as a precautionary measure as it will feel a sudden drop in temperature when engine is still running as the air bubble moves and sticks to the temperature sensor which was dipped in the hot coolant before.

[enthusiastic.learner]

By the way, i'm stuck at this annoyance for quite some time. I have changed 3 power steering bucket pipes in my car. The one that is attached to the plastic bucket and bends down and attaches to the bottom metal pipe which goes to the pump. It always ends up with a kink at the point of bend. Is installing a metal elbow at the point of bend the only possible solution for this or is there an alternate way to properly bend this hose? For now I have in mind to install a metal elbow at that point with 2 additional screw clamps.

[03154040868]

Brother 14 litter mein 217 Km ?
Ye highway ki mileage hai ya Local ki ???
Maine highway per tu abhi tak aise check nahi kiya
But city mein meri Car 14 litter mein hardly 130 to 140 km kerti hai.

yes janab ye highway ki milage hay.speed 100/kmh and with out ac

[03154040868]

Wow sirf cylinder saaf krne se itna farq

meri car ff cng full cylender min minimum 180 km or maximum 190 karti hay with all the time ac on.on highway and city driving mix

[abid110]

meri car ff cng full cylender min minimum 180 km or maximum 190 karti hay with all the time ac on.on highway and city driving mix

Karachi me itni mileage nahi hai cng me...kaafi kamm hai w.r.t cng of kpk and punjab

[saboor73]

Karachi me itni mileage nahi hai cng me...kaafi kamm hai w.r.t cng of kpk and punjab

Kabhi kabhi itna mileage de deti hai I once (just one time) got 185km in one CNG on highway

[abid110]

Kabhi kabhi itna mileage de deti hai I once (just one time) got 185km in one CNG on highway

I am talking about inside khi city. Mine gives max max 110km in twin cylinder of cng without ac. And engine is in best condition as per 3 mechanics. Its almost equal to my alto vxrs mileage.. It had 55kg ff cylinder and it went around 115km without ac.

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If your temperature sensor has only 2 pins, then the ECU controls the radiator itself and there is no separate sender unit for the gauge. But if your sensor has 3 pins, then probably it is the sensor + sender. Did you burp the radiator after changing coolant? Might be possible that there is still some air inside the cooling system. In this case if there is a bubble of air sitting at the tip of the temperature sensor, it will see the engine as cold when it really is not and in this scenario, ECU could run the fan for longer duration as a precautionary measure as it will feel a sudden drop in temperature when engine is still running as the air bubble moves and sticks to the temperature sensor which was dipped in the hot coolant before.

i did burp the car.i parked in an inclined place and also jacked it up with car jack. btw i didnt check the number of pins on the sensor. but if car is running and if i unplug the sensor, the fan kicks in and shuts off when i plug it back. so meaning the sensor is working fine? i need to know if my car temp gauge is working fine.i need to check if car would actually show the car overheating or not? how can i check that

[enthusiastic.learner]

i did burp the car.i parked in an inclined place and also jacked it up with car jack. btw i didnt check the number of pins on the sensor. but if car is running and if i unplug the sensor, the fan kicks in and shuts off when i plug it back. so meaning the sensor is working fine? i need to know if my car temp gauge is working fine.i need to check if car would actually show the car overheating or not? how can i check that

For how long did you burp it? I burped mine for almost an hour and air kept coming out in the form of tiny bubbles for good half hour. You also have to squeeze the radiator and heater core pipes in order to force the air bubbles out that are sticking to the pipe walls. And the engine should turn off when you unplug the sensor because the ECU is supposed to protect the engine from overheating. It does so on my Liana as well as the fan kicks in at full speed. Don't know about your car (Liana or some other?). Btw, sorry about the typo in my message. ECU doesn't control the radiator, it controls the temperature gauge instead in case of 2 pin ECT sensors

[Xulfiqar]

By the way, i'm stuck at this annoyance for quite some time. I have changed 3 power steering bucket pipes in my car. The one that is attached to the plastic bucket and bends down and attaches to the bottom metal pipe which goes to the pump. It always ends up with a kink at the point of bend. Is installing a metal elbow at the point of bend the only possible solution for this or is there an alternate way to properly bend this hose? For now I have in mind to install a metal elbow at that point with 2 additional screw clamps.

buy a new genuine suzuki part - its a molded part, btw - if you are adamant on being cheap then make a steel elbow and ensure it has a pipe nipples or double flares on the ends to hold the pipe to the elbow, Also make sure you use good banded clamps to tighten it down and use pipe that is actually compatible with ATF or hydraulic oil, not all rubbers are compatible and will leak out.

[Xulfiqar]

For how long did you burp it? I burped mine for almost an hour and air kept coming out in the form of tiny bubbles for good half hour. You also have to squeeze the radiator and heater core pipes in order to force the air bubbles out that are sticking to the pipe walls. And the engine should turn off when you unplug the sensor because the ECU is supposed to protect the engine from overheating. It does so on my Liana as well as the fan kicks in at full speed. Don't know about your car (Liana or some other?). Btw, sorry about the typo in my message. ECU doesn't control the radiator, it controls the temperature gauge instead in case of 2 pin ECT sensors

burping is a simple job - after the large amount or air is removed plug the cap back on and leave the engine running for about 10 minutes to let the system build pressure - then shut if off and top off the overflow container - leave the car alone for a while - you will notice any additional air is displaced into the overflow - there you go - job done.

Just check the overflow container for the next 2 days and top it off if low, do not open the radiator cap - If the system is air tight and the cap is good it will function perfectly normal.

If you want to make extra sure there is no air at all or if your car is a royal headache to bleed out then find a junked radiator cap and chop off the pressure head and install it on the radiator - this way any air will be expelled into the overflow container and coolant/liquid will be sucked back into the system. Make sure the cap's top seal is in good condition.

Do not leave this cap on the radiator - replace it with your good working cap once the job is complete.

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For how long did you burp it? I burped mine for almost an hour and air kept coming out in the form of tiny bubbles for good half hour. You also have to squeeze the radiator and heater core pipes in order to force the air bubbles out that are sticking to the pipe walls. And the engine should turn off when you unplug the sensor because the ECU is supposed to protect the engine from overheating. It does so on my Liana as well as the fan kicks in at full speed. Don't know about your car (Liana or some other?). Btw, sorry about the typo in my message. ECU doesn't control the radiator, it controls the temperature gauge instead in case of 2 pin ECT sensors

The engine is supposed to die if the temperature sensor is unplugged? In my case, the fan kicks in and auto choke disengages(if engaged.) The engine had been swaped by previous owner, is there possibility that this function had not been wired back? If so, can you guide me how to make it back to work? Cuz i think if ecu makes engine shut off on heat up, its a pretty neat work to save the engine from damage

[abid110]

@xulfiqar, i recently bought a 555 brand of rackend and tie rod ends. How are they quality wise and what is their life? Is it original japan..? Whats yr say

[Xulfiqar]

The engine is supposed to die if the temperature sensor is unplugged? In my case, the fan kicks in and auto choke disengages(if engaged.) The engine had been swaped by previous owner, is there possibility that this function had not been wired back? If so, can you guide me how to make it back to work? Cuz i think if ecu makes engine shut off on heat up, its a pretty neat work to save the engine from damage

the engine will not cut out from the coolant sensor being unplugged - it will kick on the fans at full speed as it enters a "mayday" situation. the ECU also goes into open loop immediately and starts dumping petrol into the engine.

Your CEL will also be lit from this act.

[enthusiastic.learner]

buy a new genuine suzuki part - its a molded part, btw - if you are adamant on being cheap then make a steel elbow and ensure it has a pipe nipples or double flares on the ends to hold the pipe to the elbow, Also make sure you use good banded clamps to tighten it down and use pipe that is actually compatible with ATF or hydraulic oil, not all rubbers are compatible and will leak out.

I asked around at many Suzuki parts shops at MontGommery road and they all told me that since nobody buys such parts, we don't keep them. I guess I will have to get it imported. Do you know of any imported parts dealer in Lahore who could have such parts in stock? Import wastes good 2 - 3 weeks and "WAITING" is what I hate the most in this world.

[Xulfiqar]

@Xulfiqar, i recently bought a 555 brand of rackend and tie rod ends. How are they quality wise and what is their life? Is it original japan..? Whats yr say

sankei 555 are good parts - do the tie rod end have an allen screw plug in the middle of their base?

[abid110]

sankei 555 are good parts - do the tie rod end have an allen screw plug in the middle of their base?

They are still packed but snap is almost clear. Is this is what u are asking? So, are they equally good as genuine part and peace of mind thing?

[hasooboy]

Bhai punjab k CM nay haath buhat hee bahri (heavy) rakha hooa hai yaha per non tax payer k lee 13500 aur payer k lea 6500 aik saal ka hai aur late fee 6000 hai.
Yh sub 2 saal say hooa hai , iss say pehlay liana ka token 4500 tha.
Is lea main nay apni gari ka token update hee ni kia.
Kpk, sindh, boluchistan, islamabad, walo ka token kum hai, yh mehrbani sirf punjab walo per hai.

Yeah liana to mery walid sahab ky naam pr hai woh filler hain, aur corolla mery naam pr hai 1.6 aur mai non filler hoon aur mai ny corolla ka tax 1.5 year ka including late fees 22 hazar kuch jama karvaya hai :S