Liana, success or failure?

[Wahaj12]

@retro: u say Khyber and Margalla were excellent cars and nobody ever complained about them...yet u also say Pak Suzuki makes lousy cars.....

tell me, how can it be? Khyber and Margalla were also made by same Pak Suzuki, so how can they be better then Liana or Cultus?

[Retrograde]

allow me to clarify:

1. Khyber and Margalla both were made much more rigid and durable and BTW i owned both of them so I know

2. Even Cultus had good quality till 2005 after they they screwed it big time.

I wanna clear that these older model cars were much better than the current crap

1. Yes the current IDSI has low pickup and there is no debate about it. But liana is not at all brilliant on pickup. DOnt wanna bring this up, u wanna race so do it with the older 2001 1.3 90 BHP city

[Wahaj12]

i think....u liked Khyber and Margalla because u owned them....and now you like City again because you own it.

Your own car is always the best for you.

[lotus]

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[Retrograde]

wow at one point u say owner's comments only and then negate them........kool indeed!!!

BTW i also mentioned earlier that Lancer and Sunny and nice cars but i dont own any and also mentioned many times that Liana is a good car expect for QC and i dont own that as well (just driven it quite a bit)

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[Wahaj12]

@retro: i m not negating...u must be right for Khyber and Margalla....but u don't own a Liana hence ur opinion is biased....cause all three are from same manufacturer, and newer models are always better than previous ones.

@lotus: sales r not everything buddy, u know that. anyways, i don't know where all the civics r going, cause they r not on the roads at least.

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[Wahaj12]

^Pak Suzuki's main product r small vehicles eg Mehran, Alto, Cultus, Bolan, Ravi etc..Liana is just a bonus for them, to get a share out of the sedan market.

I don't think they ever expected to outsell other brands, but just to get some market with Liana.

Don't think Liana will be replaced for another 3-4 years, as they had to install a separate plant for it..

[Wahaj12]

and Margalla was the only locally assembled sedan at that time, there was no City and Corolla was imported till 1995 i think....so Margalla remained without competitors..

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[Wahaj12]

That is because there are more competitors as time advances...Maragalla was the only locally assembled Sedan, its price must be significantly lower than an imported Corolla or Civc, thats why it sold well. And as far as numbers are concerned, i'm sure each newer model would have outsold its predecessor..its too early for Liana but lets wait for another 3-4 years.
I can't say if Pak Suzuki deteriorated their QC after 98 or not, but I know my colleagues had new Khyber in 1991 and they also complained..
I agree the discount offer by Pak Suzuki was not a great idea, although I benefitted from it..and it was one of the reasons I chose a Liana.
Bottom line....sales are not everything! as far as the quality/performance of a car is concerned...neither is resale value. To identify a good product you only need your mind.

[Wahaj12]

and Margalla was never compared to the Corolla or Civic of its time..but Liana is now comparable and on same lines (only better if someone can open their eyes). So, is it improvement or not?

[mac11]

I want to ask just one question to all of those who are considering LIANA as a flop due to its less selling figures.

Please name me just one car (in 1300 cc or above) which is introduced in last 3 or 4 years and have better sale record as compared to LIANA?

[adl01]

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[Retrograde]

stop its production

[Wahaj12]

@adl01: Improve QC to ensure every vehicle is 100% trouble free. And increase the warranty to 2 years/50,000km (like City)