Looking for CVT green 2 gear oil

[pwuser149616849828]

Assalam o alikum
Need to change gear oil for my JDM wagon r. Recommended oil is CVT green 2. It's available at Suzuki Islamabad, who use it in their ciaz. It's price is 16,600 for 4 lit. Is there any cheaper alternative available in Islamabad? Mechanic said they are routinely using premo cvtf (UAE company) cost around 1600/ lit in these cars. But I am not sure it's compatible with green2.
Regards

[uzeemujeeb]

CVT green 2

Aisin CFEX is interchangeable / compatible to Green 2 CVT and much cheaper then Suzuki BRAND

AISIN-CFEx-Compatible-Application-Specification-List.pdf (136.1 KB)

[pwuser149616849828]

Thank You. Any idea where can I get this in Islamabad. I mean original thing.

[pwuser149616849828]

And what quantity wogonr JDM requires. My research says 3 lit.

[uzeemujeeb]

sir @nomi01 is silent member with a shop in ISB to resolve issues.

[nomi01]

Ciaz is AT, not cvt, officially suzuki pakiatan isnt importing cvt oil, often dealerships sell stuff sourced from local market. And this is probably the case here along with high probability of being fake. Saw same thing being practised by honda dealerships with dw1 ultra oil.

[nomi01]

refer this thread www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/wagonr-compete-cvt-service/1337721

[muhammad.talha3001]

You can also use caltex cvt fluid.
https://cglapps.chevron.com/sdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=495355&docFormat=PDF%20
It says over in the file in this link that it supports cvt green 2 fluid transmissions

I checked on the kixx website, and their website only mentions cvt green 1
zic website doesn't mention any product specifications.

I recommended caltex one because its cheap, approximately 4000 for 4l

[taimurahmed92]

For CVT, DCT and other newer type gearboxes, use oem oil only. Get it imported if rates at dealerships are very high.

[uzeemujeeb]

For CVT, DCT and other newer type gearboxes,

sir i suggest please go through the web link you will find amazing fact sheet(s)

https://www.aisin.com.sg/product/automatic-transmission-fluid/
https://www.aisin.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AISIN-ATF-Application-List-Pic02.pdf

AISIN & DENSO belong to Toyota Group it is OEM parts supplier to 3 Giants Toyota Suzuki & Honda.
EXEDY is Clutch Kit brand by AISIN

AISIN-ATF-Application-List-Pic02.pdf (146.4 KB)

[taimurahmed92]

Yes, these are very informative, however, I have sth interesting to share. Since product datasheets of automakers' products aren't readily available I am using Aisin, Totachi and ZIC (I deplore ZIC personally) as a sample.

You will observe that although all three oils claim some sort of compatibility with either Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Kia or GMC ATF SP3, they all have different properties as well within that same ATF SP3 classification. It is these differences in blends resulting in different properties of the oil that leads me to recommend only OEM oils for newer transmissions such as CVT, DCT, etc. since they are very sensitive to oil. And it is also my firm belief that most automatic transmission issues start and end with oil. As a side note Mitsubishi only allows the use of Diaqueen ATF SP3 for CVT lancers of the 2003-2007 shape.

I am attaching screenshots and links below for your reference:

1. Totachi ATF SP3: https://totachi.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TDS_ATF-SP-III.pdf
   

   

2. Aisin Dexron 3: https://www.aisin.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AISIN-Fully-Synthetic-AFW-Dex-III_Product-Datasheet.pdf
   

   

3. ZIC ATF SP3: http://zic-eu.com/products/transmission-oils/zic-atf-sp-3.html
   

   

[muhammad.talha3001]

Bro, we're not using these cars for endurance towing competitions where they have to tow a trailer with 10tons of weight behint it. If a company says it's fluid is compatible with multiple vehicle standards. Then it's not a problem. You can use it in your vehicle without expecting any addition wear and tear damage to your vehicle.

[taimurahmed92]

Of course not, but you do expect these transmissions to last hundreds of thousands of kilometres. That's where these differences come in. Different oils will require different oil change intervals (OCI) because of their varying properties, however, you only get maintenance schedule with OEM oil. ZIC for sure reduces the life of transmissions so that's certainly on my blacklist.

I leave the final decision with the car's owner.

[muhammad.talha3001]

That's exactly what suitable alternative means. Using these oils won't kill your transmission before it hits 1 lakh km. They will last just as long as they would with the original oem oil

[taimurahmed92]

I don't want my transmission to last 100,000km. I want it to last 500,000km.

[muhammad.talha3001]

That's what I'm saying. You can use alternative fluids and your transmission will last just as long as with the original oem fluid.