LPG in Reborn

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sfasep81 (sfasep81) 2013-06-02 18:51:40 +0500 #1

I need suggestions and advice regarding installing LPG in my Civic reborn from DEA HASCOL

Did someone ever experienced installing LPG in civic reborn as per my research electrical issue like sensor damage may occur upon installing

I am really confused in going ahead for it as per DEA hascol guy he already installed many kits in reborn even in mercedes but i couldnt find one who can really guide me proper in it ...

Marwanpasha (Marwanpasha) 2013-06-02 19:05:04 +0500 #2

Dont know the reviews of the LPG in reborn. But will advice dont do that other wise it will eat your engine and i think u r well aware with repair and maintenance cost of honda cars. Even u will lose all the driving pleasure/ quality.

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Marwanpasha (Marwanpasha) 2013-06-02 19:06:47 +0500 #3

Btw big lolx to the mercedes wala. He must attempt suicide by saving the cost of petrol.

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mkkd (mkkd) 2013-06-02 19:09:24 +0500 #4

Why LPG? Is there significant difference in mileage?

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hasooboy (hasooboy) 2013-06-02 19:11:55 +0500 #5

There will be no mileage difference, the only Saving will be the difference in the price of lpg and petrol.

P. S I think there will be no loss of power on lpg as compared to petrol.

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Drake (Drake) 2013-06-02 20:33:39 +0500 #6

well actually lpg is much much better fuel alternative then cng, as lpg is a bi product of oil so it does not harm the engine the way cng does, even the performance of the car is excellent on lpg same as of petrol, u cant tell the difference while driving. i think you should give it a try, i see lot of expensive cars on hascol filling station...

LEDLIGHTMAKERZ (LEDLIGHTMAKERZ) 2013-06-02 23:56:39 +0500 #7

Bro, its no use of converting it into LPG as from the definition LPG Low Pressure Gas which is more dangerous then the CNG. The pressure required for combustion is way to low as compared to CNG & petrol. When u fire up ur engine on Petrol, a vacuum is created inside the fuel tank which causes a subsequent flow of fuel which i controlled & increased by the fuel pump installed as per requirement. But for the case of LPG the cylinder must be strong enough to hold the pressure & secondly, the flow required should meet the piston movement to allow proper combustion * exhaust at the same time. This is not possible for LPG thats why its better in 2 stroke engines.

mubeenshahid (mubeenshahid) 2013-06-03 00:05:00 +0500 #8

I also need info on that

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hellyeah (hellyeah) 2013-06-03 01:19:30 +0500 #9

LPG liquid petrolim gas not low presure gas

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fahadwizz (fahadwizz) 2013-06-03 04:22:58 +0500 #10

LPG = Liquefied Petroleum Gas - It is Propane. CNG is Methane.
LPG is much more safer than petrol. Used widely in Europe in all typea of cars.

fahadwizz (fahadwizz) 2013-06-03 04:43:18 +0500 #11

IMO- LPG is a great fuel. Very long range and nice cylinders which can fit in spare wheel space. The proper EFI kit with injectors etc cost about 75k from hascol. Per/Liter price at the moment is around 56 rupees and mileage on LPG is 10-15% lower than petrol. Like CNG it is also a dry fuel and burns hotter than petrol. I think it should be installed with a valve lube solution.

I have seen a land rover & Parado converted to LPG from Hascol. Its my regular refueling and service station.
http://www.flashlube.com/images/stories/pdfs/flashlubeinstallationkit.pdf

LEDLIGHTMAKERZ (LEDLIGHTMAKERZ) 2013-06-03 12:16:22 +0500 #12

Yes u r right about Europe. just wanted to add on ur finding.
CNG is Compressed Natural Gas, which is mainly methane compressed at a pressure of 200 to 248 bars. LPG is Liquefied Petroleum Gas, a mixture of propane and butane liquefied at 15 ?C and a pressure of 1.7 - 7.5 bar. Some variants of LPG are primarily propane so LPG is often colloquially called propane. CNG is cheaper and cleaner, but LPG has a higher calorific value. Distribution is easier for natural gas over long distances via pipelines.

LEDLIGHTMAKERZ (LEDLIGHTMAKERZ) 2013-06-03 12:20:18 +0500 #13

All Major Vehicle Manufacturers will exclude any damage to engines caused by the installation ofLPG, including Valve Seat Recession and Burnt Valves under their new car warranty. All Warranties sold with LPG Conversions do not cover Valve Seat Recession or Burnt valves. Check before buying. All After Market Warranties specifically exclude Valve Seat Recession and burnt valves. Check before buying.
All LPG Importers and Suppliers will not pay for damage to engines caused by the fitting of their LPG Equipment

LEDLIGHTMAKERZ (LEDLIGHTMAKERZ) 2013-06-03 12:26:31 +0500 #14

Check out this comparison sheet i found could be helpful:
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[TH="class: acol, align: center"]Improve this chart[/TH]
[TH="class: vcol, align: left"]CNG[/TH]
[TH="class: vcol, align: left"]LPG[/TH]
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</thead><tbody style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; line-height: 1; font-family: inherit; ">[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Constituents:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Methane[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Propane and Butane[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Source:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Obtained from natural gas-and-condensate wells, oil wells, coal bed methane wells[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Automatically generated from gas fields when natural gas is extracted from the reservoir. By-product of cracking process during crude-oil refining[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Uses:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Substitute for gasoline in automobiles[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Heating and cooking in homes, refrigeration, industrial, agricultural, catering and automobile fuel[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Environmental effects:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Releases lesser greenhouse gas[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Releases CO2 which is a greenhouse gas but is cleaner when compared to gasoline[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Properties:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]It is lighter than air and hence disperses quickly in the event of spillage.[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Highly inflammable. It is heavier than air and on leakage will settle to ground and accumulate in low lying areas[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Safety:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Easily disperses, hence risk of ignition is minimized[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Since it is difficult to disperse risk of fire is more

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</tbody>[/TABLE]

fahadwizz (fahadwizz) 2013-06-03 12:37:56 +0500 #15

LEDLIGHTMAKERZ;3896738:

Check out this comparison sheet i found could be helpful:
Comparison chartEMBED THIS CHART

[TABLE="class: zebra-striped, width: 1"]
<tbody>[TR]
[TH="class: acol, align: center"]Improve this chart[/TH]
[TH="class: vcol, align: left"]CNG[/TH]
[TH="class: vcol, align: left"]LPG[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Constituents:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Methane[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Propane and Butane[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Source:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Obtained from natural gas-and-condensate wells, oil wells, coal bed methane wells[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Automatically generated from gas fields when natural gas is extracted from the reservoir. By-product of cracking process during crude-oil refining[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Uses:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Substitute for gasoline in automobiles[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Heating and cooking in homes, refrigeration, industrial, agricultural, catering and automobile fuel[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Environmental effects:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Releases lesser greenhouse gas[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Releases CO2 which is a greenhouse gas but is cleaner when compared to gasoline[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Properties:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]It is lighter than air and hence disperses quickly in the event of spillage.[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, bgcolor: #F9F9F9, align: left"]Highly inflammable. It is heavier than air and on leakage will settle to ground and accumulate in low lying areas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: comparisonRow"]
[TD="class: acol, align: left"]Safety:[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Easily disperses, hence risk of ignition is minimized[/TD]
[TD="class: vcol, align: left"]Since it is difficult to disperse risk of fire is more
[/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

Would you prefer fire over one big blast of cng cylinder? LPG leakage can be easily detected if a person is equipped with a nose of reasonable sensitivity.

For valve seats, one must install the flshlube solution. The resorvior is fitted in under the hood with liquid that keeps the valves well lubricated.

Disclaimer : I have no experience of LPG. Never installed it any of my cars. My comments are based on research/

UltimateEconomyGroup (UltimateEconomyGroup) 2013-06-03 14:16:57 +0500 #16

go for the installation if not satisfied i guarantee you to take all expences from my company which you had wasted on your ride. in simple word's go for the installation. it's safe