Malaysian Airlines MH 370, cause of the crash: Foul play!

[gujar96]

O wowww how boldly you can say this man .Aircraft was descending and crew was sleeping ultimately hit the ground and whooooppp. You've no idea what you're saying , being aerospace engineer does not make you a flyer.
As far as your last sentence is.concerned i am fully aware how much seriously ground crew and maintenance persons do the DI and pre flight .

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Sir i also don't know the exact cause but there are many possibilities either bomb was planted either it was hijacked or it disintegrated in sky. I don't know about Pakistan what it the current situation for ground and pre flight maintenance but here we don't even spare 0.01% error and every single thing is checked. And our 777's have flawless safety records. Our engineering department is very efficient, every aircraft and its single component is thoroughly checked to ensure utmost safety for the passengers. I think you're taking about shaheen or airblue's ground which is more like roadside mechanics i know everything i have worked with PIA also. Are you related to aviation? The 2 incidents which happened were of A340 one was because of pilot's error that he striked 25 approaching lights which caused four tyres to burst and other was that aircraft failed to take off properly due to incorrect flex temp based on wrong entered aircraft weight, this resulted lower engine thrust and insufficient acceleration then Airbus was ordered to develop a software which can recognize unusual weight or poor thrust or abnormal behavior while take off and landing.

[vagabondpiper]

In no way i'm negating possibility of pilot error . If you aren't aware of exact cause how could you believe it's pilot's fault ? OEM never let's any investigation to conclude manufacturing error or material failure . A layman just know what's told on media . Anyhow my only concern was don't jump to conclusion and blame pilot at once. Let the things unfold .

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[mubeenshahid]

This all has been done by rothschilds for a patent issue

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[memad]

Once it happened with me at Khi airport that I forgot to put my cell phone in the tray at the last check passed the security gate alarm buzzed and I realized the phone on my hand. Even then the security person called me in, did the body search and I was cleared. All the time phone remained in my hand.

Did any one had any similar experience. As I think there must be strict procedure and not let the phone pass through with our scan.

[gujar96]

In no way i'm negating possibility of pilot error . If you aren't aware of exact cause how could you believe it's pilot's fault ? OEM never let's any investigation to conclude manufacturing error or material failure . A layman just know what's told on media . Anyhow my only concern was don't jump to conclusion and blame pilot at once. Let the things unfold .

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Are you related to aviation by any means?

[2B0l]

This all has been done by rothschilds for a patent issue

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Pakistan ma.rozana log mar rahay ha unka kisi ka khayal nhe.waha 270 mar gaey i wish they alive to sb log chekhnay lag gaey. Kabi pakistan k logo k leay b thread bane and asse investigation ho.

[himmi_Pak]

here is PIA LANDING AT RWP AIRPORT from KRI

RADAR TRACKING ON GROUND WITH SPEED

I think that flightradar.com can pickup the aircraft below flight level 300 below is the example.

Earlier I put an example of above FL 400

[supereagle]

Regards.

[dms664]

here is PIA LANDING AT RWP AIRPORT from KRI

RADAR TRACKING ON GROUND WITH SPEED

Go to Flightradar24 and at the moment there are two Malaysian Airlines Planes in Pakistani Airspace.

1) Boeing 777-2H6ER,
2) Airbus A380-841

[himmi_Pak]

many flights do , not big deal . cross continental also pass pakistani airspace.

i was tracking a PIA 319 flight rwp to karachi

it started well then keep moving west near jund it change its direction hahahaha i thought its going to north wazirstand

Guess will not tell you what really happens haahahahah

with radar on screen tracking like an Airforce GUY HAHAHAHAHHA

Go to Flightradar24 and at the moment there are two Malaysian Airlines Planes in Pakistani Airspace.

1) Boeing 777-2H6ER,
2) Airbus A380-841

[vagabondpiper]

Are you related to aviation by any means?

Still you think i am not ?

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[chinyoti]

Once it happened with me at Khi airport that I forgot to put my cell phone in the tray at the last check passed the security gate alarm buzzed and I realized the phone on my hand. Even then the security person called me in, did the body search and I was cleared. All the time phone remained in my hand.

Did any one had any similar experience. As I think there must be strict procedure and not let the phone pass through with our scan.

altho out of topic, My bro in law has carried his licenced gun pass a security check with out the scanner or the person checking knowing.

On the other hand i once, at a bank i had two phones in my pocket and i was stopped until they made me pass 3 times without my phones and were sure i wasnt carrying any metal

[supereagle]

I think that flightradar.com can pickup the aircraft below flight level 300 below is the example.

Earlier I put an example of above FL 400

Mohtaram memad Sahib,
Now I got your point. I hope the following explanation will suffice:

1. The altitude at which ADS-B (automatic dependent surveillance - broadcast) can detect aircrafts is limited by the types of receivers and geography. In some parts of Europe, we can detect aircrafts through ADS-B flying as low as 500 feet. In Malaysia there are only two ADS-B receivers and with a limitation of 30,000 feet. Any aircraft flying below 30,000 feet can't be detected by ADS-B technology. Mind you, flightradar24.com has its own independent ADS-B system in Malaysia.

2. Your question: How does flightradar24.com detect aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet in Malaysia?

Answer: This is done by SSR (Secondary Surveillance Radar) technology used by Malaysian ATC (Air Traffic Control). Data of aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet is shared by Malaysian ATC with flightradar24.com. That's how flightradar24.com gets information about aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet. Above that, flightradar24.com gets information through both sources, SSR and ADS-B.

Flight data of MH 370: In the case of Malaysian Airlines MH 370, the Boeing 777-200 was equipped with two transponders, one for SSR and one for ADS-B. Both were deliberately turned off. Had the transponder only for SSR were turned off and the one for ADS-B been running, Malaysian ATC would have been blinded for the flight data of MH 370 but flightradar24.com would still have had been able to see it.

I hope the above explanation was able to explain the point.

Regards.

[Libertine]

Mohtaram memad Sahib,
Now I got your point. I hope the following explanation will suffice:

1. The altitude at which ADS-B (automatic dependent surveillance - broadcast) can detect aircrafts is limited by the types of receivers and geography. In some parts of Europe, we can detect aircrafts through ADS-B flying as low as 500 feet. In Malaysia there are only two ADS-B receivers and with a limitation of 30,000 feet. Any aircraft flying below 30,000 feet can't be detected by ADS-B technology. Mind you, flightradar24.com has its own independent ADS-B system in Malaysia.

2. Your question: How does flightradar24.com detect aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet in Malaysia?

Answer: This is done by SSR (Secondary Surveillance Radar) technology used by Malaysian ATC (Air Traffic Control). Data of aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet is shared by Malaysian ATC with flightradar24.com. That's how flightradar24.com gets information about aircrafts flying below 30,000 feet. Above that, flightradar24.com gets information through both sources, SSR and ADS-B.

Flight data of MH 370: In the case of Malaysian Airlines MH 370, the Boeing 777-200 was equipped with two transponders, one for SSR and one for ADS-B. Both were deliberately turned off. Had the transponder only for SSR were turned off and the one for ADS-B been running, Malaysian ATC would have been blinded for the flight data of MH 370 but flightradar24.com would still have had been able to see it.

I hope the above explanation was able to explain the point.

Regards.

What's with all these riddles and speculations. The place was hijacked by Jihadis to make a point. The truth will come to light sooner than we all expect. Wait and watch the whole drama unfold with patience.

[vtecyo]

If it was hijacked why there is still no claim of responsibility by terrorists?surely they like to take credit quickly. I think its something else.

[Libertine]

If it was hijacked why there is still no claim of responsibility by terrorists?surely they like to take credit quickly. I think its something else.

Not necessarily by the most popular and well-known Jihadist groups such as Al Qaeda or Taliban. It could be a rather obscure one from Malaysia/Indonesia, as there is a sizeable population in these two countries who are extremely conservative and not happy with the way Malaysia and Indonesia are progressing on western modelled modern principles. These people are against such progress in the same way there are people in our country who want another form of system in the country instead of the popular system based on western principles.

Thora sabar karo, the truth will come out soon.

[addikted]

Not necessarily by the most popular and well-known Jihadist groups such as Al Qaeda or Taliban. It could be a rather obscure one from Malaysia/Indonesia, as there is a sizeable population in these two countries who are extremely conservative and not happy with the way Malaysia and Indonesia are progressing on western modelled modern principles. These people are against such progress in the same way there are people in our country who want another form of system in the country instead of the popular system based on western principles.

Thora sabar karo, the truth will come out soon.

Lol acting like Pakistany news channels.loads of theories with no head.

[Libertine]

Lol acting like Pakistany news channels.loads of theories with no head.

Ever been to Malaysia and Indonesia? I guess you have not. I have been to both and I know what I am talking about. Ja kar dekho in donon mulkon mein phir samajh ajayey gi mein kya keh raha hoon.