Motorcycle Engine Oils

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moons (moons) 2013-09-05 07:02:04 +0500 #261

(MajidKhan567) bro.in which bike you are using castrol?

himmi_Pak (himmi_Pak) 2013-09-05 10:21:04 +0500 #262

had a Castrol havoline oil change in my bike today

must say that performance is much better then shell AX 3

Bike is feeling smoother ride and engine noise is gone.

Transmission changing?(gears) is soft.

Bike is feeling a sense of something new

next time go for Liqui MoLY

can any body know what is maximum drain interval for CALTEX HAVOLINE 20W40 engine oil

thanks !

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-05 10:31:13 +0500 #263

These local oils can easily do 1000km
Max drain interval you should not exceed 2000km marker
pakistani bike manufactures suggest to change oil every 2000km

1000km is considered to be best timing to change oil

himmi_Pak (himmi_Pak) 2013-09-05 10:46:50 +0500 #264

i had my previous oil change at 1100 kms

there was a hero engine oil with 2500 km drain interval written on it.

i went for trusted one's

vickytulla (vickytulla) 2013-09-05 11:25:11 +0500 #265

new havoline does has a very good effect but it degrades fastly specially if the weather is hot just my experience... but on other side it has a lot of satified customers as well..

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-09-05 13:06:39 +0500 #266

Though i like to use some modern grade engine oil in my bike to feel "Cool"
But in the end all that matters is how bike is feeling regardless of what is written on the box.
It's good to know that you are having good experience with Havoline.

I have a little question.
Does shell AX3 has some proper shell seal on it or just plain white paper???
Also what about havoline??

For example following pic has GS Caltex logo seal.

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-05 13:14:34 +0500 #267

these company branded monogram seal are much better than those white paper seal

himmi_Pak (himmi_Pak) 2013-09-05 13:37:15 +0500 #268

Shell AX 3 had shell labeled seal yellow in color (with logo)

havoline also got colored seal with caltex logo

Anyone (Anyone) 2013-09-05 14:33:38 +0500 #269

ax3 which i used is with white paper seal,so it was fake?

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-05 14:44:12 +0500 #270

It would have been great if you had taken the pics of seal & share here
i myself also have not seen shell AX3 with shell labelled seal its thick white paper seal

AHl also used to come with branded seals but they also started coming in white seals
but occasionaly you get one with branded AHl seal

Can't say anything with sure AX3 with white paper is fake
but really the above comments by himmi_Pak really produces big doubt
that shell AX3 with white seal is being sold every where

himmi_Pak (himmi_Pak) 2013-09-05 15:01:28 +0500 #271

nope added engine oil 3 months ago

dont have pixs with me. but i will try to get 4u from the shop i purchase

abdulrehmanrauf (abdulrehmanrauf) 2013-09-12 03:43:24 +0500 #272

Following is the link to a separate thread on Liqui Moly Oil initial feedback. For reference I am adding its link here.https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/bikes-3-wheelers/221572-initial-feedback-liqui-moly-racing-4t-20w-50-available-n-nazimabad-hyderi

abdulrehmanrauf (abdulrehmanrauf) 2013-09-12 04:03:41 +0500 #273

Separate thread. Just for reference here.Initial feedback on Liqui Moly Racing 4T 20W - 50 - Available in N. Nazimabad Hyderi.

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-12 05:31:00 +0500 #274

^ it is very positive feedback every user is feeling same experience
and same great improvement in overall performance of bike
and it is really amazing how can an engine oil give such an performance improvement
and it really shows what kinda quality were we using in our bikes before although they
work but simply there is no comparison between those local oils and this Liqui Moly German

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-12 08:43:59 +0500 #275

Today drained Liqui Moly from generator after 10 days
Usually i drain after week and mostly i use Shell AX3

The oil came out in colour was quite same as AX3
I mean it had lost the colour and has become darker in colour

Automotorsport_Lover (Automotorsport_Lover) 2013-09-12 09:03:12 +0500 #276

Well oils darken because they absorb sludge and deposits from engine and keep the engine components sparkling clean.... If an oil isn't getting dark it means it's not cleaning well and not serving purpose well

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amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-12 09:11:24 +0500 #277

Bro i am expecting may be in next oil change it may come out a bit clean
as earlier it was Ax3 for long time used

and what do you think quick oil colour change could also become result of black sludge?
waise bro i have also read this that an oil which does not change colour means
its not working properly

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-09-12 15:06:31 +0500 #278

I guess this tells that it isn't very good idea to use expensive lube in engines without oil filters.
Becuase once oil is loaded with sludge and deposits, it won't be able to perform its duty fully even if it maintains its viscosity.
So using AHL engine oil in CG125 (for example) with 1000Km drain interval would be better than using Liqui Moly with 2000Km interval.
As with AHL oil, you would be draining your sludge and deposits every 1000Km. But with Liqui Moly, deposits could be too much by the time you get to 2000Km and it might not be lubricating well in last few hundred Km.
Thoughts???

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-09-12 16:36:26 +0500 #279

Gull bhai i am little bit worried exactly same i am thinking
now i am just looking forward to see after how many km this oil becomes
darker in bike my bike always drains very clean oil
Generator is running daily more than 6 hours and mostly on Gas
bro this Oil is very expensive and is quite difficult for me purchase
if it was easily available in my city i would have first test it by draining it after 1000km
than would have tried it draining it after 1500km but lets see inshAllah looking forward to purchase
three bottles more will soon order will drain current oil after 1500 or 2000km

bro ustaad log and i also feel it is very right, recommend do not let oil become darker in your bike
as once engine inside gets dirty than it will drain dirty oil so i am now just being a little bit conscious with liqui moly

Gull bhai i have read Liqui Moly Racing 4t 20w50 details specification
One of its properties is "Outstanding cleaning & dispersion properties"
so this could be reason of dirty engine oil which came out lets see how oil drains out in 2nd change
and bro one thing which i liked is that oil drained out completely with ease although generator
was cool i mean it was cool i usually start generator and let it run for a minute than drain oil
but today while changing oil i drained oil without warming up engine i forgot to warm up engine
but oil drained with ease and came out in perfect quantity only thing which i was not expecting was
darker colour like shell

asjdsm (asjdsm) 2013-09-12 17:30:17 +0500 #280

Excellent thread and I am going to subscribe to it.

I purchased shell ax5 1ltr from metro for 375. Will share my experience once i pour it in my bike.

I have been using havoline 20w50 for a very long time but from past 2 to 3 changes I have used castrol active 4t 20w50 and I would rate it definitely above havoline.

Following are some of random pics of few bands. I purchased ax5 1ltr 15w40.as in ax5 only this was available. And further more I can't find it in . 7l capacity. Only 1ltr is available.

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