Motorcycle Engine Oils

[amjad635]

Yes agree Gull bhai practically logically it should do 2000km with ease using liqui moly
i have done 1500km with local AHl oil and believe it still had strength to do more specially
if we look at the colour of oil and thickness mechanic was saying it can do more the oil was not
in very dirty or useless condition

[gull_s_777]

Yes agree Gull bhai practically logically it should do 2000km with ease using liqui moly
i have done 1500km with local AHl oil and believe it still had strength to do more specially
if we look at the colour of oil and thickness mechanic was saying it can do more the oil was not
in very dirty or useless condition

As per my poor knowledge, oil should be quite dirty at 1500km, be it local or imported. It simply means that it is doing good job in keeping the engine clean. If oil still feels clean then you have a problem.
Maintaining viscosity is a good thing though.

[amjad635]

Gull bhai oil turning black we i mean most people think its sign of bad oil
but if we search on net for good quality engine oil and it is considered sign of good quality engine oil

when i had went for oil change at around 1500km mechanic was saying still oil is not very dirty
it can do more is not complete useless and while he was draining oil it did look to me still in ok condition
it had not complete turned into black On the other hand liqui moly loses its colour quickly and turns black

Now black colour of oil is considered sign of good quality engine oil
but it also could cause black sludge that is what i think & feel
Liqui moly would easily do 2000km on our bikes and should not worry about its colour
as that is what oil manufactures suggest they say don't decide oil quality or interval on colour
rather follow what your motorcycle manufacture suggest

So personally i myself little bit confused on this but i guess big manufacture like mobil 1 & liqui moly
knows better than me or us so we should not worry if liqui moly turns quickly black as compare to local engine oils

[himmi_Pak]

use upto 2000 km liqui moly there is no issue at all . so tension not

[devilskreed]

Waqar Bukhari Yes bro AX-5 is relatively better than the other local available. LM is the best affordable oil you can procure,there is absolutely no match.I have tested all brands AHL,Caltex,Kixx,Ax-5 but when i poured in LM i experienced notable change in engine noise as well as transmission.

Falat1ty brother 20w40 is an all rounder for pakistani conditions.The grades are primaly influenced by engine make and model rather than climate(oil clearance and stuff,though the latter is also considered).@20w40/50 behave exactly same on cold start,and can be easily substituted without any noticeable change.Thin oils are generally not recommended for our local bikes and the conditions are not that severe to use 10w/5w viscous oils.I am using LM in both winters and summers and there is no issue at all.

Amjad sir oil turning black is a good phenomena.Instead of turning the deposits into sludge the oil displaces those deposits and keeps them within itself so as to prevent formation of sludge.ANd when you drain the oil those deposits drain aswell.A clean oil which has clocked more than 1500 kms and there is no noticeable difference in color is a sign of great concers as the oil is unable to clear deposits from the engine. That's how oil does its job

Lm drain is dependent on vehicle make/manufacturer conditions for e.g for GS its 2500,for CD 100 its 2000 (but i drain it at 1.5k +/- 100 Kms for my own satisfaction.The oil can stretch till 2k without causing any harm

[devilskreed]

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[SyedMoazzam]

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Yar what is white powder that is formed on battery teminals
How can it be avoided

[gull_s_777]

Yar what is white powder that is formed on battery teminals
How can it be avoided

Keep them covered in grease

[fatal1ty]

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Thanks to all you guys for spreading out the word abt LM .. No doubt it's the best oil available in Pak rite now ..
Before LM i was using Castrol GTX for my GS .. It's a good oil but no way near LM .. After pouring LM i'm lovin my GS even more .. In sha Allah from now on i'll never ever use any other oil expect LM ..
Now i need to ask you guys one more thing .. There's this friend of mine who owns a CG 2003 .. We keep exchanging our bikes .. Sometimes i'm ridding his CG & sometimes he's riddin my GS ..
But the day i poured LM is my GS .. Even he felt a huge difference in my bike & said "Kya karwaya hai bike k sath ? .. Aik dam SUN chalri hai aur gears b malayi ho rahe hain" ..
I said it's this German oil Liqui Moly & it's the highest recommended imported oil on PW & after reading reviews by PW members i just couldn't stop myself from trying it ..
He said "No doubt LM suited your bike pretty good but what about CG ? Please ask your fellow PW members that if i could use LM in my CG ? Will it suit my bike ? & also if there's any CG owner using LM on PW then please ask him about his view abt LM"
So guys please help me out here .. He is not a PW member & he keeps asking "Yaar tunay PW members se pucha LM aur CG k baray mei ?"

[sherry56]

I used Lm in my cg euro 2, in start I feel alot of change bt afterwards it was just ok as my bike is new and just driven 1500km till now,I will change the oil today again and will post the results later

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[abdulrehmanrauf]

Atleast try second bottle of LM. LM will surely give you even much much better result.

I used Lm in my cg euro 2, in start I feel alot of change bt afterwards it was just ok as my bike is new and just driven 1500km till now,I will change the oil today again and will post the results later

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[getscorpion]

So guys please help me out here .. He is not a PW member & he keeps asking "Yaar tunay PW members se pucha LM aur CG k baray mei ?"

no worry bro it will perform good in OHV too with less engine vibrations ....

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[himmi_Pak]

CG, GS ,CD , or any other bike

Liqui moly product suites all kind of 4 stroke motorcycle engine. it is a mineral based formula but its very effective under

pakistani conditions. Not a single guy who have pour this oil comes up with negative review.

say your friend to use this in his CG without any doubt in mind. and Go 1500 km ,next time drain uptil 2000KM

Gear shift becomes smoother , engine noise is lowered . you will face the difference like no other brand in pakistan

@amjad635 @gull_s_777 @devilskreed @ammarzahid @SyedMoazzam @himmi_Pak @ViKiNg @Automotorsport_Lover @Chaudhary007 @racer7 @camry47 @abdulrehmanrauf @getscorpion

Thanks to all you guys for spreading out the word abt LM .. No doubt it's the best oil available in Pak rite now ..
Before LM i was using Castrol GTX for my GS .. It's a good oil but no way near LM .. After pouring LM i'm lovin my GS even more .. In sha Allah from now on i'll never ever use any other oil expect LM ..
Now i need to ask you guys one more thing .. There's this friend of mine who owns a CG 2003 .. We keep exchanging our bikes .. Sometimes i'm ridding his CG & sometimes he's riddin my GS ..
But the day i poured LM is my GS .. Even he felt a huge difference in my bike & said "Kya karwaya hai bike k sath ? .. Aik dam SUN chalri hai aur gears b malayi ho rahe hain" ..
I said it's this German oil Liqui Moly & it's the highest recommended imported oil on PW & after reading reviews by PW members i just couldn't stop myself from trying it ..
He said "No doubt LM suited your bike pretty good but what about CG ? Please ask your fellow PW members that if i could use LM in my CG ? Will it suit my bike ? & also if there's any CG owner using LM on PW then please ask him about his view abt LM"
So guys please help me out here .. He is not a PW member & he keeps asking "Yaar tunay PW members se pucha LM aur CG k baray mei ?"

[sherry56]

Ya I just poured another bottle in my cg euro 2 nw lets c , bt the color of the drained oil was black anyhow I hope it will suit my euro2

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[gull_s_777]

Gull bhai oil turning black we i mean most people think its sign of bad oil
but if we search on net for good quality engine oil and it is considered sign of good quality engine oil ........ So personally i myself little bit confused on this but i guess big manufacture like mobil 1 & liqui moly
knows better than me or us so we should not worry if liqui moly turns quickly black as compare to local engine oils

Amjad sir oil turning black is a good phenomena.Instead of turning the deposits into sludge the oil displaces those deposits and keeps them within itself so as to prevent formation of sludge.ANd when you drain the oil those deposits drain aswell.A clean oil which has clocked more than 1500 kms and there is no noticeable difference in color is a sign of great concers as the oil is unable to clear deposits from the engine.

Amjad bro i think devilskreed explained it very well. Oil going black is natural and a good sign that it is doing its job fine.
I change oil at 1000Km interval and i don't think i ever noticed it coming out clean, it's almost totally black.

Here is a snap when i put fresh oil in

And this is after 650Km running, still a little see through condition.

You can imagine how it will look like when it'll complete 1000Km, almost impossible to see through.
And if i stretch it to 1500Km, then i think it will look like coaltar or something.
So a clean feeling oil at 1500Km is a thing of little concern, especially in a bike with no oil filter.

[kamionit]

AOA to all fellows.I used castrol Gtx from 2007 till January 13. Never felt a single issue even in extreme cold temperature of Quetta now using Gulf pride easily doing 2000 kms.I hv chonda 70

[amjad635]

Amjad sir oil turning black is a good phenomena.Instead of turning the deposits into sludge the oil displaces those deposits and keeps them within itself so as to prevent formation of sludge.ANd when you drain the oil those deposits drain aswell.A clean oil which has clocked more than 1500 kms and there is no noticeable difference in color is a sign of great concers as the oil is unable to clear deposits from the engine. That's how oil does its job

Lm drain is dependent on vehicle make/manufacturer conditions for e.g for GS its 2500,for CD 100 its 2000 (but i drain it at 1.5k +/- 100 Kms for my own satisfaction.The oil can stretch till 2k without causing any harm

Devilskreed bro please don't call me sir i am student and learner
thank you for the great explanation about black colour
here mechanics and i include myself in such people too
i generally feel if oil loses its colour quickly means its low quality oil
but when i search on net i found big brands like LM & Mobil 1 suggest
or think totally opposite to our perception and no doubt they definitely better
than me & all those local mechanics and i was confused about black sludge & deposits
but as you told liqui moly cleans the black sludge and carry it as compare to local oils and you
defined why they remain clean because they don't make themselves dirty as they don't clean engine deposits

@amjad635 @gull_s_777 @devilskreed @ammarzahid @SyedMoazzam @himmi_Pak @ViKiNg @Automotorsport_Lover @Chaudhary007 @racer7 @camry47 @abdulrehmanrauf @getscorpion

Thanks to all you guys for spreading out the word abt LM .. No doubt it's the best oil available in Pak rite now ..
Before LM i was using Castrol GTX for my GS .. It's a good oil but no way near LM .. After pouring LM i'm lovin my GS even more .. In sha Allah from now on i'll never ever use any other oil expect LM ..
Now i need to ask you guys one more thing .. There's this friend of mine who owns a CG 2003 .. We keep exchanging our bikes .. Sometimes i'm ridding his CG & sometimes he's riddin my GS ..
But the day i poured LM is my GS .. Even he felt a huge difference in my bike & said "Kya karwaya hai bike k sath ? .. Aik dam SUN chalri hai aur gears b malayi ho rahe hain" ..
I said it's this German oil Liqui Moly & it's the highest recommended imported oil on PW & after reading reviews by PW members i just couldn't stop myself from trying it ..
He said "No doubt LM suited your bike pretty good but what about CG ? Please ask your fellow PW members that if i could use LM in my CG ? Will it suit my bike ? & also if there's any CG owner using LM on PW then please ask him about his view abt LM"
So guys please help me out here .. He is not a PW member & he keeps asking "Yaar tunay PW members se pucha LM aur CG k baray mei ?"

Yes brother tell your friend to give a try to liqui moly
and he may use it 20w50 is mostly used in 125cc's here in pakistan
old or new engine liqui moly would perform much better as compare to local
i would suggest drain first liqui moly a quicker after 500km than
2nd one he may drain after 1500km or 2000km

Amjad bro i think devilskreed explained it very well. Oil going black is natural and a good sign that it is doing its job fine.
I change oil at 1000Km interval and i don't think i ever noticed it coming out clean, it's almost totally black.

Here is a snap when i put fresh oil in

And this is after 650Km running, still a little see through condition.

You can imagine how it will look like when it'll complete 1000Km, almost impossible to see through.
And if i stretch it to 1500Km, then i think it will look like coaltar or something.
So a clean feeling oil at 1500Km is a thing of little concern, especially in a bike with no oil filter.

Gull bhai Devilskreed bro cleared things very nicely about black colour of oil
Gull bhai seriously yaar that oil after 650km has changed colour quite alot
if i remember correctly after 1500km the AHl oil which i had drained from my bike was
same in colour like this as oil in your GS after 650km or may be little darker
i don't remember correctly but it was not black at all it still had colour
and it was possible to see through oil

[anti_xarak]

W.A.S

what is the difference felt for Gulf pride ?

AOA to all fellows.I used castrol Gtx from 2007 till January 13. Never felt a single issue even in extreme cold temperature of Quetta now using Gulf pride easily doing 2000 kms.I hv chonda 70

[kamionit]

Dear I feel a smooth ride,better in gear shifting,more response to throttle etc.overall a better riding experience

[archon2001]

after searching valvoline xld 20w50 for some time in market i gave up, ended up buying mobil special 20w50 for bike,car and generator at home, result is quite satisfactory, oil looks more or less same like valvoline and price is 1900 rupees for 4ltr can.