Must read before buying new battery (UPS or Car)

[nasirjavaid]

Now avoid Phoenix at all cost. Their batteries were good in past. Bought phoenix batteries in 2016 that died in 2021 lasting 5 years.

Keeping that in mind I bought phoenix replacement batteries last year and they have died in a year. They only reduced electrolyte slightly but they are dead. No backup now. UPS is fine.

Also I bought a phoenix battery for car a year ago and that turned out to be crap too.

Very poor quality. Never gonna buy Phoenix again.

I have heard that Phoenix manufacturing unit was sold and the new parent company has totally ruined its quality.

Oh never knew it...

[nasirjavaid]

There are only 2 or 3 battery makers who are selling batteries to all brands who then print their brand on the case.

99% of the times a bad battery in Pakistan is due to bad electrolyte and the rest 1% is bad battery or other issues.

That's why I always buy batteries from same dealer for last 8 years as his electrolyte is good. I left from a nearby shop immediately when I saw him preparing battery with a water that was little blackish and there were some particles at the bottom of tthe mug he was using to pour electrolyte...

[nasirjavaid]

I too had a phoenix UGS battery bought in 2016. This June the backup time dropped to 35-40 minutes. Had it replaced this time by Daewoo DIB-200 UPS battery. It sure is a very robust and high quality battery and am expecting it to last even longer. I would recommend it every one.

how much it costed you?

[Panther]

Officially it was Rs34000 but he charged me Rs1000 extra as shortage tax.

[Moderator]

[Moderator]

an informative thread BUMP

[nfssaad]

current rates of battery have skyrocketed...

phoenix tx2500, tubular is now nearly rs 78000

[ch.talal]

Lol and they are fully manufactured in Pakistan. Only lead is imported in raw form. Also phoenix quality has gone into trash. Bought 2 recently and they barely lasted 1 year.

Not only batteries air conditioner prices have gone crazy too. 1.75 - 2.5 lac for 1.5 ton inverter AC. These same used to cost 65 - 85k when dollar was at 168.

بہتی گنگا میں سب ہاتھ دھو رہے ہیں.

[Xulfiqar]

And now peeps will understand why it pays to have the equipment installed and commissioned at perfect control spec.

Installing batteries prepped with trash and using bad cabling and shitty clamps leads to bad service

Same with ac, not vacuuming the system and adulterating the gas with air results in trash performance

[pwuser162557941033]

Started a thread a couple weeks ago looking for electrolyte or contact process sulfuric acid to DIY my own battery and measure its performance empirically. Still no luck.

Had an AC technician recently "vacuum" my home split air conditioner for ten minutes using an old refrigerator compressor. Vacuum micron rating? Please, we're listening for the sound of the compressor struggling to indicate the vacuum is complete. The same guy filled the system with outside air using the same compressor.

"Vacuum pump derh lakh rupay ka hay. Kaun le kar ghoomay ga?"
"Nitrogen kaun le kar ghoomay ga?"

He's not wrong. Electricians and HVAC technicians are struggling just like everyone else, cutting costs and lying, even if it doesn't come naturally to them, so that they can survive.

It would be valuable information to anyone interested in protecting their equipment to know where to get well-prepared lead-acid batteries or the materials to prepare them, as well as HVAC technicians who won't mess your system up forcing you into another ~Rs. 200,000 air conditioner purchase that'll inevitably end up being a cheaply manufactured piece of trash.

[nfssaad]

i bought my own 3cfm vaccum pump couple of years ago for rs 13,000

[Xulfiqar]

Did this fellow also not isolate the manifold valve before shutting the make shift compressor?

If he did not close the manifold “before” shutting the compressor, then the exercise was futile and the tech needs to leave this business altogether.

[ch.talal]

The inverter is just the same running from past 7 years.

Batteries prepped from trash lasted 5 years with that, next time only 1 year same dealer same brand. Now another 2 still going good from different brand different dealer.

The only thing happened is money mongers trashed the quality of their product yet tripled the price.

That's pakistani thing. Triple the price and reduce the quality. Saith getting richer despite of economic turmoil.

[Xulfiqar]

Its very easy to beat!

Stop buying.