My Honda CG125 Deluxe Euro-ll

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gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-07 13:06:08 +0500 #141

Checked fuel average again with 1000 rupee petrol, covered 388Km till it hit the reserve again.
Fuel average 40Km/lit. this also includes a trip from ISL to Murree.

abobobilly (abobobilly) 2013-04-08 08:20:53 +0500 #142

Gull bhai ! Bura mat man'na but i believe you aren't measuring the average correctly.

"MY" bike at its current stage is doing 38KM/L and MAX it hits is 40KM/L. That is:
- When i ride it HARD, and also on Higher Speeds (because of Canal Road route)
- The mixture is tuned down (otherwise, it would be doing even less than 33KM/L)

So Can we please be honest and try to measure the correct way?

First Fill:
- Get the bike fueled to its Maximum Capacity.
- Notice the Meter Reading (say 32190)

2nd Refill: (upon hitting the Reserve)
- Get it Refueled FULLY but this time, notice HOW Much fuel went in.
- Divide that number (say 7.9L) with the Distance Traveled (say, 312KM) ... and you'll get almost 40KM/L fuel average.

P.S. The numbers used as an example are "MY" bike's recent numbers.

getscorpion (getscorpion) 2013-04-08 08:33:58 +0500 #143

good ... it will get better once running period is over ....

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-08 09:56:10 +0500 #144

abobobilly;3821592:

Gull bhai ! Bura mat man'na but i believe you aren't measuring the average correctly.

"MY" bike at its current stage is doing 38KM/L and MAX it hits is 40KM/L. That is:
- When i ride it HARD, and also on Higher Speeds (because of Canal Road route)
- The mixture is tuned down (otherwise, it would be doing even less than 33KM/L)

So Can we please be honest and try to measure the correct way?

First Fill:
- Get the bike fueled to its Maximum Capacity.
- Notice the Meter Reading (say 32190)

2nd Refill: (upon hitting the Reserve)
- Get it Refueled FULLY but this time, notice HOW Much fuel went in.
- Divide that number (say 7.9L) with the Distance Traveled (say, 312KM) ... and you'll get almost 40KM/L fuel average.

P.S. The numbers used as an example are "MY" bike's recent numbers.

i always measure using reserve to reserve method.
Bike hit the reserve at 502Km. I took the reading, put 1000 rupee petrol in it and used it till it hit the reserve again at 890Km.
So total distance covered in 1000 rupee petrol is 388Km.
fuel price 103.4/litre. so 1000 rupee petrol = 9.67 litre.
388/9.67 = 40.12

ha125 (ha125) 2013-04-08 12:06:43 +0500 #145

Why so sir khapai?
Download an application named FuelLog Pro from Android market. It calculates automatically...

You just have to mention price and quantity of petrol upon refills

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vickytulla (vickytulla) 2013-04-08 12:44:23 +0500 #146

h eh h eheh masla Hal!!! ..

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-10 15:10:10 +0500 #147

can someone tell about horsepower and torque of Deluxe?? and at how much RPM???

ha125 (ha125) 2013-04-11 07:19:09 +0500 #148

Isn't it mentioned in the owners manual?

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gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-11 08:48:28 +0500 #149

nope...

Ansee (Ansee) 2013-04-11 10:24:03 +0500 #150

I hate Atlas Honda for not disclosing the detailed Technical Specifications of their products. However, here they are:

Horsepower: 10.85Hp @ 9,000 rpm
Max Torque: 9.8Nm @ 7,000 rpm

Gear Ratios:-
1 = 2.769
2 = 1.722
3 = 1.273
4 = 1.042
5 = 0.885
Primary Reduction - 3.333
Final Reduction - 3.214

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-11 12:51:06 +0500 #151

Thanks bro
those are pretty high RPMs, but the way Deluxe give quick response at lower RPMs , i thought it's max torque would be around 6000 RPM or even less.
Anyway, this is all that is given on manual.

Ansee (Ansee) 2013-04-11 15:55:59 +0500 #152

Anytime bro,

The first three gear ratios of Deluxe and Classic are same yet Deluxe has a better torque because of its final reduction of 3.071 whereas Classic has a final reduction of 2.533.
Classic takes lead as soon as both shift to the 4th gear. Deluxe catches up in 5th gear after it hits 9,000 rpm and if a Deluxe hits 9,500 or more RPM there are almost no chances for a Classic to keep up with it.

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-11 16:29:57 +0500 #153

Hmmm
even at 9500 RPM, theoretically Deluxe would be doing 107Km/h. I think CG could still tap that

Ansee (Ansee) 2013-04-11 16:40:33 +0500 #154

But practically it gets faster than that and becomes a pain in CG's ****.

gull_s_777 (gull_s_777) 2013-04-11 16:54:11 +0500 #155

Okz
i am feeling rear brake not very effective,
i have to press the lever very hard to lock the rear tyre. mechanic checked and commented that all new CG125/Deluxe are coming like this only. And even if i change brake shoes with new genuine shoes, brake will still be the same.
He said that for effective rear braking, i'll have to use some non-honda shoes, which will provide good braking power but might not be good for drum in the long run.
Any comments???

Ansee (Ansee) 2013-04-11 17:28:16 +0500 #156

Same is the problem with my friend's Deluxe but he never bothered about it as he uses the front brake to stop the bike so don't have much info about that. May be Amjad bro can help you with this.

amjad635 (amjad635) 2013-04-11 17:33:44 +0500 #157

Gull bhai brand new deluxe 2013 which my friend Saeed has
is having no rear brake issue. Rear brake are working nice

dmszack (dmszack) 2013-04-11 17:38:25 +0500 #158

Lo bhai wahi GS wala funda ... Koi khaas faida nahi hua ???

abobobilly (abobobilly) 2013-04-12 00:44:58 +0500 #159

@gull_s_777! I understand about your braking issue. Its the Geniune Honda Brake shoes the culprit. I spent 1000 rupees on TWO sets (shoes which come in newer Honda Bikes with bigger spring) and it seems as soon as the Brake Shoes wears out a little, the brake goes ****.

Aftermarket Shoes dalnay se problem tabhi ho ga agar ghatiya quality k daalo ***. Tere are many great ones available too. Like those Malaysian, or OOH etc etc (limited knowledge - apologies)

I am again considering changing the brake shoes because the bike may stop just fine with added pressure on font brake. But in Emergency Conditions, BOTH brakes HAVE to be in PERFECT condition to be able to ACT on brake Instantly.

What you can do in the meantime, is tighten the Pedal a little bit (not too tight). However keep it lose enough for brake pedal to cover the mentioned distance in your manual.

Baaqi Deluxe's rear drum is Bigger so iss ki brake 2 times better than the stupid Classic's Brake. Also because of Better Road Grip of Deluxe.

N0m1 (N0m1) 2013-04-12 04:14:01 +0500 #160

Gull bro after market brake shoes give good braking power but they wear out sooner.also they scratch out drum slowly.sleeve of drum gets down by this.happened twice wd ma prvs 70cc.