My Suzuki GD 110

[devilskreed]

hello guys i want my gd 110 to look a bit heavy, what should i do....i asked many people about replacing the existing tyre with a thicker and broader one but none replied in positive..what should i do??

If your rear tyre is 2.75 6 ply its more than enough..Using a thicker tyre would gain you nothing

[dr.omair]

hello guys i want my gd 110 to look a bit heavy, what should i do....i asked many people about replacing the existing tyre with a thicker and broader one but none replied in positive..what should i do??

A thicker tyre will only temporarily impress the person behind your bike and give u a sense of satisfaction, but will
1. drastically increase your fuel consumption
2. Reduce bike's initial pick
3. Reduce the engine's life

[TZB]

A thicker tyre will only temporarily impress the person behind your bike and give u a sense of satisfaction, but will
1. drastically increase your fuel consumption
2. Reduce bike's initial pick
3. Reduce the engine's life

I was also considering changing my GD's rear tyre to size 3.00, but the 3rd point in above list is such a turn-off to me. Bro, will you please expand on it? I mean what has the tyre size got to do with engine's life?

Because what I think a bigger tyre would do is add extra friction for engine to overcome, but that's exactly what engine does during pillion riding. Of course a tyre wouldn't put that much load on an engine as a pillion rider would. Just my thoughts.

[dr.omair]

I was also considering changing my GD's rear tyre to size 3.00, but the 3rd point in above list is such a turn-off to me. Bro, will you please expand on it? I mean what has the tyre size got to do with engine's life?

Because what I think a bigger tyre would do is add extra friction for engine to overcome, but that's exactly what engine does during pillion riding. Of course a tyre wouldn't put that much load on an engine as a pillion rider would. Just my thoughts.

Bro, first of all, u need to understand that these small bore commuters are meant to transport u from point A to B, these are not performance machines... But ofcourse, due to our economic conditions, we see these bikes being abused to the limits. for instance, I see dhoodh walas and even bakery/grocery distributers overloading poor 70cc motorcycles, but try inquiring how frequently do their engines need overhauls....

Adding a fatter tyre doesnot simply increase the bike's weight, so comparing it to adding a pillion rider is not a good analogy.... Rather, one needs to understand that the bike's engine has to produce more torque for rotating the heavier tyre, and hence adding to the strain. Ofcourse, your engine wont be blown off in a day, so the strain will go unnoticed for a while
U can install a hayabusa tyre to your gd, its 110cc engine will definitely rotate it, but under stress.... Hence it will lead to the 3 consequences that i listed in my previous post...
U own a good bike, its engine is imported and alot more durable that the local bikes here. Take good care of it and it to serve you well for years to come
Regards

[TZB]

Because what I think a bigger tyre would do is add extra friction for engine to overcome, but that's exactly what engine does during pillion riding.

Adding a fatter tyre doesnot simply increase the bike's weight, so comparing it to adding a pillion rider is not a good analogy.... Rather, one needs to understand that the bike's engine has to produce more torque for rotating the heavier tyre, and hence adding to the strain.

Bro, I did mention engine would have to overcome more friction, which in turn means more torque (or rotational energy) required.

A small experiment would be to put 10 kg in a trolly when you go shopping Hyper Star or any mart, and roll it down some distance. Next, double the weight and repeat the roll thing. Now again put 10 kilos of stuff in the trolley, this time doubling the wheel base, and push it through the same distance. (I am not suggesting you actually change the cart's wheels, but) intuitively speaking, increasing wheel base wouldn't require you to add a significant amount of force to push the cart. However you would feel the need to push with more force when you double the load without altering the wheel base.

Based on this argument, a pillion rider would cause more trouble to engine than just increasing the wheel base. Engine would be happy to carry the same load despite the rear tyre offering a slightly increased friction (or stress, so to speak).

PS: I am happy to see a medical professional having interest in Physics (mechanics, in particular)

[dr.omair]

Bro, I did mention engine would have to overcome more friction, which in turn means more torque (or rotational energy) required.

A small experiment would be to put 10 kg in a trolly when you go shopping Hyper Star or any mart, and roll it down some distance. Next, double the weight and repeat the roll thing. Now again put 10 kilos of stuff in the trolley, this time doubling the wheel base, and push it through the same distance. (I am not suggesting you actually change the cart's wheels, but) intuitively speaking, increasing wheel base wouldn't require you to add a significant amount of force to push the cart. However you would feel the need to push with more force when you double the load without altering the wheel base.

Based on this argument, a pillion rider would cause more trouble to engine than just increasing the wheel base. Engine would be happy to carry the same load despite the rear tyre offering a slightly increased friction (or stress, so to speak).

PS: I am happy to see a medical professional having interest in Physics (mechanics, in particular)

Spot on!!!

Theoretically as well as practically speaking, both the pillion rider and increased wheel base would add to increased stress. However, which one has more effect on increasing stress would depend on how heavy is the pillion vs how much wheel base increase one is going for
Like i said before, try to keep the weight /wheel base as low as possible for optimum commuter performance
Reduced mileage and engine pick are instant issues that one would notice, while shortened engine life is something u would notice probably after 30000 to 40000 kms. So, if u don't want to take long term effects into consideration, then go for the fatter tyre

PS..... I used to be good at physics, but never studied it beyond A-levels

[devilskreed]

As a rule of thumb you should generally drive at 10 Kms less than you normally do without a pillion..It compensates for the increased engine stress.
Increasing wheel base would without any-doubt add to engine stress but the manufacturer recommended size is the best for a ride..I have been driving my CD with 2.75 rear and till now no issues whatsoever regarding road grip or balance..Using wider tyre is just for mental satisfaction.

[TZB]

Spot on!!!

Theoretically as well as practically speaking, both the pillion rider and increased wheel base would add to increased stress. However, which one has more effect on increasing stress would depend on how heavy is the pillion vs how much wheel base increase one is going for
Like i said before, try to keep the weight /wheel base as low as possible for optimum commuter performance
Reduced mileage and engine pick are instant issues that one would notice, while shortened engine life is something u would notice probably after 30000 to 40000 kms. So, if u don't want to take long term effects into consideration, then go for the fatter tyre

PS..... I used to be good at physics, but never studied it beyond A-levels

Agreed, an increased wheel base would indeed have an effect, but that would be minimal and visible only after several thousand kilometers have been clocked in new configuration. I am just looking for switching to 3.00 from 2.75. That's not a big increase. The width of tyre in contact with ground might increase by half an inch or so. What do you think?

PS: Where did you do A-Levels from, and when? I did from Crescent, 2004 - 2006. In our times, we did have circular motion in Physics' syllabus, but not rotational motion (motion about an object's own axis).

As a rule of thumb you should generally drive at 10 Kms less than you normally do without a pillion..It compensates for the increased engine stress.
Increasing wheel base would without any-doubt add to engine stress but the manufacturer recommended size is the best for a ride..I have been driving my CD with 2.75 rear and till now no issues whatsoever regarding road grip or balance..Using wider tyre is just for mental satisfaction.

Stable though it is, but it looks empty-ish from behind with the stock 2.75 tyre. It would look better with a 3.00 tyre, and would add to its stability at high speed and sudden braking with the immediate downside effect of increased fuel consumption on an already fuel-thirsty machine.

[dr.omair]

Agreed, an increased wheel base would indeed have an effect, but that would be minimal and visible only after several thousand kilometers have been clocked in new configuration. I am just looking for switching to 3.00 from 2.75. That's not a big increase. The width of tyre in contact with ground might increase by half an inch or so. What do you think?

PS: Where did you do A-Levels from, and when? I did from Crescent, 2004 - 2006. In our times, we did have circular motion in Physics' syllabus, but not rotational motion (motion about an object's own axis).

Switching from 2.75 to 3.00 is no big deal, just consult a few senior members here such as Silver_Knife who added a fatter tyre and complained that the bike slipped alot, especially while braking at turns....

PS: I did my A-Levels from Salamat School System, from 2001-2003

[TZB]

Guys, need expert advise on how to keep my motor bike in storage for one month as I'll be away from my bike for a month. Things which come to my mind:

1- Disconnect battery
2- Turn fuel knob to off position
3- Cover her to save her from dust

Please let me know what I'm missing here.

[Xarak]

Guys, need expert advise on how to keep my motor bike in storage for one month as I'll be away from my bike for a month. Things which come to my mind:

1- Disconnect battery
2- Turn fuel knob to off position
3- Cover her to save her from dust

Please let me know what I'm missing here.

Sell it. When you return buy a CG E2.

[SyedMoazzam]

Guys, need expert advise on how to keep my motor bike in storage for one month as I'll be away from my bike for a month. Things which come to my mind:

1- Disconnect battery
2- Turn fuel knob to off position
3- Cover her to save her from dust

Please let me know what I'm missing here.

Please manual may daikhay us may kikha hota hay
I would advise to take out all the petrol from the tank as it will form sludge inside the tank if remained unused for that much amount of time

[solidmachine]

As salam o alaikum to all, i would like to know if there is any issue u r facing with GD110, plus can u tell me what is correct method to complete the initial running.

[TZB]

As salam o alaikum to all, i would like to know if there is any issue u r facing with GD110, plus can u tell me what is correct method to complete the initial running.

For running, follow the procedure mentioned in the owner's manual of Suzuki GD 110 which sort of says:
Do not exceed the 40 km/h speed limit; do not let the engine get overheated; do not rev the throttle by more than one-third of the rotation limit - all this for the first 1,000 km.

Even after you are done with the running period, keep your average riding speed between 60 - 80 km/h for longer and trouble-free engine life. Good luck

Problems faced so far:
1- Mud splashes on engine and body due to inappropriate front and rear fenders
2- Poor fuel economy. It only does 40 - 45 km/L at the best
3- Inappropriate seat design which causes pain in the back especially for riders who are tall

PS: These are the problems which I have faced. Others may differ.

[aqibasit]

How is ur GD going? Plz give a review

[TZB]

How is ur GD going? Plz give a review

Brother, this whole thread and Suzuki GD 110 Fan Club are dedicated to performance reviews and discussions on issues faced so far with this machine. Please browse both threads in detail for more information.

I can only summarize that I only find it a little uncomfortable, fuel-thirsty, and has a poorly designed pair of fenders compared to my Honda CD 100 which I owned prior to buying Suzuki GD 110. Besides these issues, I am fairly satisfied with it. Alhamdu Lillah.

[SyedMoazzam]

It is a very good bike but in each bike problems will be found because every person's riding style and sitting posture is different

[aqibasit]

Brother, this whole thread and Suzuki GD 110 Fan Club are dedicated to performance reviews and discussions on issues faced so far with this machine. Please browse both threads in detail for more information.

I can only summarize that I only find it a little uncomfortable, fuel-thirsty, and has a poorly designed pair of fenders compared to my Honda CD 100 which I owned prior to buying Suzuki GD 110. Besides these issues, I am fairly satisfied with it. Alhamdu Lillah.

Have you tried mixing hi-octane with normal petrol ? This can improve fuel average.

[SyedMoazzam]

Have you tried mixing hi-octane with normal petrol ? This can improve fuel average.

Good idea
Why not for once check the mileage on hi octane alone
It will be heavy on the pocket but do check it
If there is significant improvement then it means that this engine prefers hi octane

[aqibasit]

Yes talked to a owner of GD, he is mixing hi-octane with petrol and getting around 60kmpl