New CIVIC 9th gen worst crashes reasons

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I was reading over a forum that the new gen cowrolla have being involved in more accident from 2014 compared to civic from 2012 source was from insurances companies data

P.s I am not a onda sewic fan boy just sharing what I came across

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[saboor73]

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Corolla 11th Gen - In Pakistan

[Xulfiqar]

everyone calm down, please remember that your "aasum qism ki 25 lac ki gadi is this"

nothing more,

If you want amazing handling and enough grip that your face skin moves sideways in a corner, throw the anchor type braking that causes your eyes to hurt - then you need to pay about 10 million more and get a real car, not a shopping trolley civic. Dont complain on price - because your Pakistani rupee is valued like recycled trash, 2.5 mill is still 25000 USD which is approximately the correct price of civics/corollas/sunny type cars.

now people come up and write - I saw an unbranded ABS controller in civic - and thats why it crashes, has anyone ever wondered how much money they can make from lawsuits on Honda if they can prove that such a controller "KILLS" people.

and who the heck put this idea in people's heads that tires are the holy elixir to "grip" - no matter if your chassis and suspension design is incredibly bad. Add wider rims, upset the scrub geometry, get ustaad jee "alen mant" by grinding down the strut-knuckle bolts - cheap **** suspension work and a ton of Type R stickers and sajda to Vin Diesel and offer fateha to paul walker.

get into real life, grow up.. And please study some basic physics before posting such silly postulates of thin tires etc..

[fazalwahab11375]

Driver death rates

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Moula khush rakhay .. lawn mower sai shopping kart taak ! (H) (H) but mai tay Honda ee_lay_saan

[silentassassin1]

City should be made a rurual area car while civic should be for city or long drive guys. Yes, Civic is very much not practical for family sedan,8th gen im talking about, Has a stiff gear and steering, low ground clearance and a sensitive car but was a truly graceful car. 9th gen got too fat. A product gets the goodwill upon what its known for, 9th gen lacked that and hence was citicized.

[Xulfiqar]

City should be made a rurual area car while civic should be for city or long drive guys. Yes, Civic is very much not practical for family sedan,8th gen im talking about, Has a stiff gear and steering, low ground clearance and a sensitive car but was a truly graceful car. 9th gen got too fat. A product gets the goodwill upon what its known for, 9th gen lacked that and hence was citicized.

why should Honda do that?

the Pakistani market is like a speck of dust.

[aamirahsan89]

City should be made a rurual area car while civic should be for city or long drive guys. Yes, Civic is very much not practical for family sedan,8th gen im talking about, Has a stiff gear and steering, low ground clearance and a sensitive car but was a truly graceful car. 9th gen got too fat. A product gets the goodwill upon what its known for, 9th gen lacked that and hence was citicized.

Civic was actually known to be a quick yet economical family sedan, the 8th gen was just out of place, a mistake if you will, where they got carried away. In the 9th, they returned it to its actual purpose

[silentassassin1]

why should Honda do that?

the Pakistani market is like a speck of dust.

To answer critics. Plus do you think conditions remain same? People are getting educated day by day particularly in cities, rise of social media, JDM car trend.etc have already given users alot of awareness.

[Xulfiqar]

To answer critics. Plus do you think conditions remain same? People are getting educated day by day particularly in cities, rise of social media, JDM car trend.etc have already given users alot of awareness.

If they are so aware, why are they still stuck in the mentality of "tyres provide awesome grip" - regardless of the fact that chassis design plays a more important role.

and why are you still stuck in rural land where roads are not fully paved - how come people are not aware of that?? Are these people actually studying/researching or just being google and facebook champions?

[silentassassin1]

If they are so aware, why are they still stuck in the mentality of "tyres provide awesome grip" - regardless of the fact that chassis design plays a more important role.

and why are you still stuck in rural land where roads are not fully paved - how come people are not aware of that?? Are these people actually studying/researching or just being google and facebook champions?

You defy logic most of the times and take things away, Having said that, Yes suspension is most important aspect in road grip and handling of the car. The aerodynamics, stance, the strength of the suspension all contribute to greater handling. And according to me its not about tyres solely but there is indeed problem with suspension and clearance of the car (9th Gen), Car flips like wth. Also i feel a car with 135+ Horsepower, Needs stuff like Traction Control, Stronger Suspension and Better Aerodynamics.

[Xulfiqar]

You defy logic most of the times and take things away, Having said that, Yes suspension is most important aspect in road grip and handling of the car. The aerodynamics, stance, the strength of the suspension all contribute to greater handling. And according to me its not about tyres solely but there is indeed problem with suspension and clearance of the car (9th Gen), Car flips like wth. Also i feel a car with 135+ Horsepower, Needs stuff like Traction Control, Stronger Suspension and Better Aerodynamics.

so by your rationale cars of the past that had more than 135 hp were completely undriveable? - so the SAAB 9000 aero was a completely dead piece of machinery

btw - Im not defying logic, Im telling you hard facts, the problem is the drivers of these cars, they assume this car to handle like a BMW M5 while they are busy chatting up their girlfreind/boyfreind on their smart phones and just took some lessons from all the volumes of F&F that they own.

[silentassassin1]

so by your rationale cars of the past that had more than 135 hp were completely undriveable? - so the SAAB 9000 aero was a completely dead piece of machinery

btw - Im not defying logic, Im telling you hard facts, the problem is the drivers of these cars, they assume this car to handle like a BMW M5 while they are busy chatting up their girlfreind/boyfreind on their smart phones and just took some lessons from all the volumes of F&F that they own.

There are every kind of people in the world, What can you tell to guys like ones youve mentioned in your para? To easily die in a civic? Hell no, Plus regardless of whoever is the driver, Safety features like Traction are a must, In a fat sedan that rolls over like hell. Even more there is something called value for money, Aab mujhe agar pata hay inn features ka aur 25 lakh main agar mujhe koi yeh ek gari mai naa de tou main nai tou laanat hi bhejni hai naa company par.

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From where did Paul Walker and Vin Diesel came in this discussion?

[Xulfiqar]

There are every kind of people in the world, What can you tell to guys like ones youve mentioned in your para? To easily die in a civic? Hell no,

You can tell someone that drinking sulphuric acid will kill them, its their choice to drink it or not. Similarly idiots who think they can drift this car at 150 km/h in a slide are on the same boat.

Plus regardless of whoever is the driver, Safety features like Traction are a must, In a fat sedan that rolls over like hell. Even more there is something called value for money,

Safety features are of two kinds, active and passive, ABS, Traction control etc are all passive safety features, these were designed to assist a mentally capable and alert driver (driver = active safety) - There is no safety feature in any car built in the world for stupid/idiot drivers.

Aab mujhe agar pata hay inn features ka aur 25 lakh main agar mujhe koi yeh ek gari mai naa de tou main nai tou laanat hi bhejni hai naa company par.

Aap ke 25 laak kull 25000 dollar bante hain, aur ye price taqreeban poori dunya mein barabar hai aisee car ke liye. Aap ka masla rupee ke value ka hai..

Please read the above.

[Xulfiqar]

From where did Paul Walker and Vin Diesel came in this discussion?

these are the words that invoke it on PW

Honda
VTEC
civic = awesome
civic = crashed

[silentassassin1]

Please read the above.

I dont see how you can support pathetic quality from manufacturers but you could openly disgrace particular people, Indeed they too belong from the society. I guess in 25k dollars you could well get a nice car with hefty features, In pakistan most sub standard products arr provided if you have able enough mind to get this thing.

[Xulfiqar]

I dont see how you can support pathetic quality from manufacturers but you could openly disgrace particular people, Indeed they too belong from the society. I guess in 25k dollars you could well get a nice car with hefty features, In pakistan most sub standard products arr provided if you have able enough mind to get this thing.

in 25K i can get a nicely equipped civic with sunroof and navi - whats the difference, the body shell is exactly the same, the engine build is the same except for some emmissions gear (like a 500 dollar catalytic converter), Yes it comes with ABS (which is the clumsiest one) and TRC is just a software add on with ABS present just as is cruise control if your car is already equipped with electric throttle pedal. its got airbags too (faulty ones at the moment)

and how does this translate to supporting pathetic quality? - you dont have any other choice, your piece of junk JDM imports are a misery, even little finish parts for them are massively expensive - try sorting out a NEW ABS module for them - frixa, ninja, fuji etc dont make them so dont expect your favorite eemaandaar spare parts shop to have it for you.

And for openly disgracing people, as I mentioned - once a person hits the driving license age they are considered adult - not a kid anymore, if they dont understand that drinking acid is lethal when already warned in legible language/communication then its not my/your problem. Same with cars, if they assume that they can smash a car into a solid concrete wall at 100 km/h and expect the luxurious airbags to save them in gentle velvety kiss, then I will be there making a movie and uploading it on youtube and terming it "different classes of stupidity"

[silentassassin1]

in 25K i can get a nicely equipped civic with sunroof and navi - whats the difference, the body shell is exactly the same, the engine build is the same except for some emmissions gear (like a 500 dollar catalytic converter), Yes it comes with ABS (which is the clumsiest one) and TRC is just a software add on with ABS present just as is cruise control if your car is already equipped with electric throttle pedal. its got airbags too (faulty ones at the moment)

and how does this translate to supporting pathetic quality? - you dont have any other choice, your piece of junk JDM imports are a misery, even little finish parts for them are massively expensive - try sorting out a NEW ABS module for them - frixa, ninja, fuji etc dont make them so dont expect your favorite eemaandaar spare parts shop to have it for you.

And for openly disgracing people, as I mentioned - once a person hits the driving license age they are considered adult - not a kid anymore, if they dont understand that drinking acid is lethal when already warned in legible language/communication then its not my/your problem. Same with cars, if they assume that they can smash a car into a solid concrete wall at 100 km/h and expect the luxurious airbags to save them in gentle velvety kiss, then I will be there making a movie and uploading it on youtube and terming it "different classes of stupidity"

I think you have got alot more to opt from. Now you bringing in JDMs, Well try a 2008 Model 1.8L Xex Premio for a drive.

[Xulfiqar]

I think you have got alot more to opt from. Now you bringing in JDMs, Well try a 2008 Model 1.8L Xex Premio for a drive.

I put in the JDM because you are in Pakistan, For myself I can get a lot of options for 25K and under, I can even buy a brand new camry/accord/altima/malibu/fusion for less than 25K

About the 1.8 L corona premio - its not all that honestly, my 15 year old mercedes benz rides 100 times better than it. And I hope that toyota get their heads on right and stop slapping similar parts in every other model, their interiors look like photocopies of each other.