@Nabs, Xulfiqar and basitali87
I agree that not filing your tax returns when income tax is applicable is a crime but this is only for that person who has his file open in FBR and been classified Filer. For those who are non-Filers, FBR have no file of them and so they are not required to return their tax statement.
In simple words I being filer not file my tax returns for the year is crime. But I being a non filer not file my tax returns is not a crime.
I have said it many times in this topic that when you are buying a car and want it to register, the registration dept. asks one question Filer or Non-Filer. If I said filer they will give me tax slip for that but if I said non Filer they don't just throw me out of them office for that rather just give me a bigger tax slip and I will end up paying it too.
The corruption of tax officials and government is not irrelevant when I am paying taxes I want to know the idea why they are doing corruption and looting my tax money for their personal benefits. In this country it takes 21 Billion Rs to hold general elections and after that we still have quite a few seats available for re-election. As in the general elections there were candidates who were contesting on multiple seats even though everyone including the election commission, government officials, judiciary, military and people knows that according to constitution one could only hold 1 seat even if he/she wins on multiple seats so why allow them to contest for multiple seats when in case of winning on all of them they still have to choose only one and leave all the others. Now more awaams tax money will be use for holding the re-elections on those seats, is that why you want people to pay taxes so that we have more money to waste on such fruitless exercises.
@basitali87
As you are salaried person plus a government employee your tax documents are in complete format, this is the same for the private companies too, but when you comes towards the business owners especially the small shop owners, they have the whole dilemma of keeping the record of everything they have purchase and sold during the time.
Have you ever considered that buying 10 or 20 Rs snacks pack from your residential area shop, you are paying about 1.5 to 3 Rs of GST on it but this GST is not reaching the government who is charging it. So, government takes the same tax with a different formula and that is using the utility charges for that shop owner will show a percentage of tax taken in the name of income tax for non filer.
Electricity bills for commercial usage have this tax added and the value is depended on what the usage is.
@Xulfiqar
Sir, I am floating religion into this discussion just to show the difference that western capitalism is the worst economic system ever designed while the religion is providing a better economic system but we still want to hang on to that western capitalism and even amusingly we are not applying the western capitalism system fully either. You said that if a person makes USD 500,000/annum, half of it will be taken by tax office but you forget to mention that in return to that they will provide him free medical service, free education for his/her kids, don't ask him to donate for building one dam and many other benefits.
Well I think I should use your own example of Alcapone as what you are saying here is if he had filed his income statements for his illegal businesses then US government may have allowed him to remain operating his businesses. Is that not absurd?? Just because a criminal has paid taxes his crime are going to be classified as legitimate businesses, and him being considered an honest and patriotic citizen of the country.
Alcapone was caught by IRS because all the other agencies have his men inside who are defending him while the law enforcement agency FBI have lost some personnel trying to capture him and so they look towards IRS for bring him to justice as that was the only authority who does not have his allies working in it as Alcapone never thought of paying taxes at all for whatever he done.
P.S: please stop using not unncessary as it makes the statement completely opposite of what you are trying to saying. Look here:
would you drive an NCP vehicle, and when it gets siezed you will go in court and argue that you will not drive a legal car because you pay tax on the NCP vehicle when you buy fuel and parts for it?
If I remove the bold not the meaning of the comment is different to what it originally said. You will drive a legal car because you pay tax on the NCP vehicle when you buy fuel and parts for it. is what your comment should be.
Lastly, yes good grief that sensible people like you don't understand the difference that normal Pakistani awaam are not considering those people who are filers and not filing the income taxes as "not criminals" they are criminals no denying in that. Normal Pakistani awaam is simply asking to don't call Non-Filers as not paying taxes or tax evader because in the end they are paying more tax in what ever they are doing just FBR don't have the record of their tax activity.
I am open to your criticism even to the point where you could call me as criminal as you have said it before because I realized that I am shouting at the wrong door.
