Pak Suzuki Wagon R Owners Club

[muradi]

Okaaay!

Exactly bro! What we get here in Pakistan? We spend over 1.7 million for a car and get manual windows, No ABS, No immobilizer, misaligned rear tail lights.. Yes I'm talking about Corolla Ess Kalll Ayee!
I had options of Japanese cars when i was buying this. And yes, i had to admit this that i was more inclined towards a car with full options. First car i saw was Toyota Pixis, Deployed air bags, Screwed up suspension, Bad quality finishing on repaired parts. Then Nissan Mocco was bought home for me. Again deployed air bags, Ladies color .. Then dealer called us and said he have arranged Mira ES in genuine condition for us. I rushed to Jail road and saw the car, it was total genuine and i really liked it, but had a dent on its roof and main thing that i couldn't run a SPL setup in it
On my way back home i booked Wagon R from Suzuki township. Peace of mind was there, Brand new car from Na Pak Suzuki, warranty, after sale support. And i just love the new car smell
So basically the point behind all story is that people always look for options and adopt things which they like and let go things they don't like. I needed peace of mind and a car without Eco IDLE so i could run an SPL setup in it. We can't force anyone here to buy Wagon R or JDM KEI cars, People will always do what their mind says them to.
And seriously no point in fighting over these little things. We can't force anyone to do anything.

Totally Agreed bro, The top of line Grande even has serious quality issues, the door sides gave me a shock when i saw, looked like a banged up 88 Rolla.
Jdms r love but u need to find a clean one, luckily khi mein finding a good jdm is easy. The main thing is members should not fight here and accept others views.
PS: A neighbor owns a Mira E;S and is running an SPL setup in it

[muhammadasad.qureshi]

Another assault of jdm dealers on this forum against wagonR. No such issued faced by real wagonR holder.

[haroonmcs26]

if he likes mehran, let him keep a mehran. talking about stability, a simple 100kph run on ring road will tell which one has more tendency to topple. the one that takes the turn(with a lil body roll but tyres touching the ground all the time) or the one which under-steers(with wheels lifting off the ground, tendency to spin)

My dear many time i drove it over 100 and also on ring road. Not facing there stability issue.

[haroonmcs26]

When santro was introduced ppl hve same perception n her reputation was same tht it has poor road grip n has greater chances to toople..then thanks to our mech who spread this myth at larger scale...but infact i had one 2001 santro plus and i used to spin it 360 degree a hell number of tyms...nothing happened till i kept that MashaAllah...ppl just start critisizing without test drive and without first hand experiance.

Ys thats the point.

[muradi]

Another assault of jdm dealers on this forum against wagonR. No such issued faced by real wagonR holder.

But i own a Pkdm Swift (H)

[haroonmcs26]

Talking about experience, I've driven it a lot of times, from college to home, home to tuition, with my friends etc.
It's handling and stability is really poor after it touches 100kmph.
Ok I might be wrong but what about others who are the owners? What about the guy mahadsheikh who had the same issue and sold it recently?(Post on previous page)

My dear if u r from lahore then a frndly offer for u to drive my w.r and then told me stability and handling issue. And u r giving just one example and we hv a lot of examples of satisfied owners.

[dr_nido]

Agreed

[mahadsheikh09]

Another assault of jdm dealers on this forum against wagonR. No such issued faced by real wagonR holder.

I own a PKDM city and JDM Mira as well bro... And perviously owned Wagon-R
This is all you got when a person share his experience on a fan club.
Even city suspension is harder then wagon-r.

Lets end this tustle and everyone has right to get car of his own choice.

[umer325]

Totally Agreed bro, The top of line Grande even has serious quality issues, the door sides gave me a shock when i saw, looked like a banged up 88 Rolla.
Jdms r love but u need to find a clean one, luckily khi mein finding a good jdm is easy. The main thing is members should not fight here and accept others views.
PS: A neighbor owns a Mira E;S and is running an SPL setup in it

Exactly bro.
Yaar finding a clear JDM here in Lahore is really difficult. You need to be extra careful and people who were selling genuine JDMs were asking hell a lot of money for their dinkeys!
Bro installing system in any car isn't difficult at all. But installing after market SPL setup in ES would definitely screw the batteries which idles the car in still position.
SPL requires proper voltage flow which these small cars can't handle.

[haroonmcs26]

But here is the important question, why there has to be Mr. B every time to support Mr A. If Mr. A has problem, and Mr. C and Mr. D can help Mr. A better because they are owners, may be there are some misconception that can be cleared by Mr C & D but every time there is some Mr. A (someone having problem), Why there should be Mr. B and X and Y who do not own Wagon R but only looking for an opportunity to jump in have the atmosphere uncomfortable suddenly ?

Absolutely right mr. Sarkar. Every time only one person become active to favour the criticism. When that person is silent then every one discuss various aspects.

[haroonmcs26]

Because Mr.B is an other owner who faced the exact same issue. And how can Mr.C and D help when the owner has already sold the car.

My dear i owned a 2014 mehran bt i sold that after 4 months to get w.r which i s much much better than mehran.

[waqasnoor]

I can see again some JDM lovers and dealers are trying to spoil this thread. I have driven in 25000 with maximum speed of 160 , stable like any thing . No rattle in dashboard at all , still silent . Comfort and Handling is way way better than Mehran / Cultus any other PKDM in same class . By the way , I have driven Mira , Move Eco before going for WR and both of them are excellent cars but can not deliver the power WR does when required . The pick and handling is owesome with 175 70 13 . The real problems till now I have faced " Slight vibration on idle " and "Noise of fuel tank when you are driving on 40 to 50 on a slient road which is not a big issue . Other than that , way to Go WR , these dealers and JDM lovers can not stop your sale , lets c the PAMA figures of this month

[muradi]

Exactly bro.
Yaar finding a clear JDM here in Lahore is really difficult. You need to be extra careful and people who were selling genuine JDMs were asking hell a lot of money for their dinkeys!
Bro installing system in any car isn't difficult at all. But installing after market SPL setup in ES would definitely screw the batteries which idles the car in still position.
SPL requires proper voltage flow which these small cars can't handle.

Agreed. Alot of frauds in Lahore in Isb. My family too had a lot of issue finding a genuine prius in Islamabad.
There is a solution to that problem. Remove the player connection from eco idle battery and connect it with the one in engine. It will be powered by the engine one and work properly like in a regular car. This trick is being used in many Eco cars around

[muradi]

@waqasnoor please prove that any member here is a dealer?

[umer325]

Agreed. Alot of frauds in Lahore in Isb. My family too had a lot of issue finding a genuine prius in Islamabad.
There is a solution to that problem. Remove the player connection from eco idle battery and connect it with the one in engine. It will be powered by the engine one and work properly like in a regular car. This trick is being used in many Eco cars around

Yes bro. Mostly cars selling in Lahore are Major accident. Bhot zyada fraud hai lahore mai.
Ahan! This is nice tip
I guess dealers use this thing for accidented cars? But then the point of Eco IDLE will be finished!

[muradi]

Yes bro. Mostly cars selling in Lahore are Major accident. Bhot zyada fraud hai lahore mai.
Ahan! This is nice tip
I guess dealers use this thing for accidented cars? But then the point of Eco IDLE will be finished!

Eco idle hardly saves any fuel btw main saving is done on A.C which consumes alot as compared to Sound system

[huzaifa.haroon]

Exactly bro.
Yaar finding a clear JDM here in Lahore is really difficult. You need to be extra careful and people who were selling genuine JDMs were asking hell a lot of money for their dinkeys!
Bro installing system in any car isn't difficult at all. But installing after market SPL setup in ES would definitely screw the batteries which idles the car in still position.
SPL requires proper voltage flow which these small cars can't handle.

None of the cars are meant for the alterations and specially these new generation cars having complex computerized systems. That is the main reason why a warranty is void after you do any kind of alterations in electronics.
It does not depends on the engine lol!
A 660cc engine is powerful then a Alto's engine if not wagon R!
And if you need a new car you go to the showroom and book it , to get it the same day or week you need to pay "OWN" ,so if you need a clean Japanese car , it can also be importer in 45 days not months like Toyota is giving for XLi /GLi and Suzuki for Wagon R.
And finding a clean car is not a difficult task , after a year or two , when people will be selling their cars having some minor or major accidents , what would you do ? Again buy a new car which is out of your budget or try to find a clean used car ?
I guess it would be a difficult task so you will always opt for new , even if the wagon r will be no longer in production! Am I right ?

[huzaifa.haroon]

I can see again some JDM lovers and dealers are trying to spoil this thread. I have driven in 25000 with maximum speed of 160 , stable like any thing . No rattle in dashboard at all , still silent . Comfort and Handling is way way better than Mehran / Cultus any other PKDM in same class . By the way , I have driven Mira , Move Eco before going for WR and both of them are excellent cars but can not deliver the power WR does when required . The pick and handling is owesome with 175 70 13 . The real problems till now I have faced " Slight vibration on idle " and "Noise of fuel tank when you are driving on 40 to 50 on a slient road which is not a big issue . Other than that , way to Go WR , these dealers and JDM lovers can not stop your sale , lets c the PAMA figures of this month [emoji14]

Wagon R is a 1000cc car with manual transmission , I would like you to drive a manual 660cc car and then decide or give your opinion!

[umer325]

None of the cars are meant for the alterations and specially these new generation cars having complex computerized systems. That is the main reason why a warranty is void after you do any kind of alterations in electronics.
It does not depends on the engine lol!
A 660cc engine is powerful then a Alto's engine if not wagon R!
And if you need a new car you go to the showroom and book it , to get it the same day or week you need to pay "OWN" ,so if you need a clean Japanese car , it can also be importer in 45 days not months like Toyota is giving for XLi /GLi and Suzuki for Wagon R.
And finding a clean car is not a difficult task , after a year or two , when people will be selling their cars having some minor or major accidents , what would you do ? Again buy a new car which is out of your budget or try to find a clean used car ?
I guess it would be a difficult task so you will always opt for new , even if the wagon r will be no longer in production! Am I right ?

Sir yes playing with car's electronics isn't a good job but still i needed to upgrade my system.
Yes you are right. I'll always prefer new car and if not new then immaculate condition used car. I would get cheaper car, less options car but ill opt for a new one

[umer325]

Wagon R is a 1000cc car with manual transmission , I would like you to drive a manual 660cc car and then decide or give your opinion!

I have driven Manual 660cc cars! But wagon R is faster then manual 660cc cars.