Paksuzuki Wagon R Maintainence Thread

[muhammad.irtiza]

Getting bad, bad vibes here.
Today I woke up to see a flat tyre on the Wagon R.

I couldn't risk even moving the car on flat tyre because these tyres are like new and I didn't want to damage their ply. I jacked up the car and used the spare wheel. Then I took the tyre to the Tyre shop.
And I was mesmerized. There were 10 small punctures on a single freaking tyre. In front of me. For the Iron Puncture fix, the tyreman was asking rs.700 for 10 punctures.
I am not at all happy. Paksuzuki inflated the tyres to such an extent that one tyre almost gave in. I checked the pressure on all wheels and all were inflated to 36-42psi. I deflated them to 30 psi.
I will chew them. Hard. When I go to collect documents coming Tuesday. I do not deserve this.

[muhammad.irtiza]

It rained at night and the car became dirty, but still it is worth looking at after I waxed it day before yesterday.

Mashallah.

[Massive_One]

Paksuzuki inflated the tyres to such an extent that one tyre almost gave in. I checked the pressure on all wheels and all were inflated to 36-42psi. I deflated them to 30 psi.

36 isn't that much of a pressure that the tyre would "give in" dude, and even if it is, the tyre wouldn't "give in" maybe "burst out" : )

Nice ride BTW MashaAllah... Looking cool .

[nfssaad]

replace tyre.

is it one of those general craps?

[omersiddiqui5482]

@muhammad.irtiza. Dear Check the same for same Tyre pressure after a week or so. the tyres are probably worn-out. since the car has been driven 45000kms and probably the tyres have never been changed. Tyres have a max life of 40000 Kms and your have probably been driven 5000kms more. It is rather better to get new tyres even general. General are good for Pakistani Roads. Plus they are a bit light on the pocket.

[muhammad.irtiza]

Yes these are the General Euro Tycoon Tyres. They are in fantastic shape though, like new. Even the puncture guy complimented the tyres by saying ye andar se tou bilkul naye Jesse hain.
I agree that they are not so good in terms of comfort and make a lot of noise, but these last too long. I have peace of mjnd with regards to tyres for a long time for now. My Cuore bechari doesn't have these luxuries.

[muhammad.irtiza]

Today was the first day I took this car for commute. This car is finally starting to grow on me.

1. Wagon R Warning light indicator: sometimes the warning light indicator comes on during drive. Particularly when I have to shift to a lower gear and then it vamishes after shifting. Is this a gear shift indicator?

2. What is the optimal rpm to drive wagon R in city for fuel economy? I keep between 2-3K. Isn't the first gear ratio very short? I have to immediately shift to second.

3. Where is the temperature guage? How can I know about car overheating?

[omersiddiqui5482]

There is no temp guage. If it starts to heat up it will show you a symbol on the screen.
By keep it between 40-60 kmph and it will be good

[sleeper]

What kind of warning light it is? Any shape?
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Regarding temp gauge there will be 2 lights, 1 blue and red...blue wud be on fr a while when car starts in morning...red will come on when the car has got pretty much heated.
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@omersiddiqui5482 are u sure the heat up light will come when it starts to heat up, and not wen the cae has heated up fr some time.....i dont know about other cars but my 06 mira's AC switched off itself moment car's temp started rising, it was well before the gauge cud reach till 'H'.....i think ths can be a trick to know if car is startn to heat up but no light comes up on the speedo....i may be wrong

[muhammad.irtiza]

The warning light is the one when we engage the handbrake. And yes, the handbrake was not engaged. Today oddly I couldn't see it, maybe because my hand is getting set on the car. But it pays to be sure and I need to know if this is normal or not otherwise I can claim the car was handed over to me not as advertised.

[sleeper]

Handbrake light can come on if the brake fluid is low....pls check that and top it up...

[rjtoxious]

1. It depends what kind of warning light comes, if a kettle shows up it means engine oil is low, if the hand brake light appears it means brake oil is low.
2. 3K RPM and 60KM/h Max speed along with 30-32Psi in tyres will give you a very good average, however it depends on your travel. If your daily traveling is more then 50KM and mainly on highway then you will surely be getting 15+ average, however if your travel is below 50 and is mainly in city in crowd places or mostly signals then you will get 13+. First gear is always a short shifting gear because it gives an initial boost to car, as its a 3 cylinder car so it will immediately require the next gear.
3. Whenever car will be heat up it there will be a red light (flag type) appear, some says there is a blue light as well if the engine is cold however I have been to places with -3 and more but never ever got a blue light. Always make sure there is coolant present in the water bottle above the mark so that you may never face heating issues.

[muhammad.irtiza]

Thanks for your help regarding this matter. I will surely look into this. It appears that either the brake oil was low or I had accidentally left the handbrake up a tiny bit because I am not seeing the warning again.
Yes the car has what appears to be it's original coolant. These long life coolants can last very long. The battery is also in perfect nick. Sadly, the gear shifter has lost its silver color because maybe the last owner rested his hand on gear, but it's nothing major. A lot of swifts and wagon R have discolored knobs. The first gear on my 3-cyl cultus had a slightly higher ratio but then it may just be my imagination

[nfssaad]

i dont trust fluids on a used car no matter the mileage.

i do a full flush of ALL fluids on a used car

[muhammad.irtiza]

It appears that the brake oil is adequate. I'll ask the dealership then. The only explanation is that it is a gear shift indicator, since it only appears if I am in 3rd or 4th gear on very low speed (don't ask I am relearning stick shift), or there is some big problem. Let's hope it's the former not the latter. I will refer to its owner's manual also today.

@nfssaad Same here, but in this case I myself have inspected the oils and fluids and all appear to be fresh. From a deep inspection the car is decievingly new. Not a single hint or rattle or flaw in the drive, shifting, etc of the car. I bought along trusted mechanics and under unanimous agreement this car was bought. But I can afford to be picky here because the car is in 'warranty ' for 10K kilometers and I have a leverage. Given that, I will not ride on chance. During the 1K inspection, I will change engine oil.

[sleeper]

Pls fill it to max....the light may still come sometime...my mehrans light wud come on when braking hard...on speed breaker...pothole....cos the fluid moved a bit away from its sensor when the car jerked

[nfssaad]

regarding brake oil level.

If brake pads and brake shoes are new, and brake disc and brake drum are new, then oil level should normally be at max level.

good oil is clear transparentish. any darkness means it has absorbed moisture and should be changed.

as the brake pads and discs and drums start wearing down, brake oil level will go down. it should NOT be topped up.

when new brake pads are to be installed, a C clamp will be used to push the caliper piston inwards to accomodate the new thick pad. this will push oil back to the oil reservoir bottle again making it maximum.

if you had topped up brake oil and then gone for a pad change, pushing the piston back will make brake oil overflow from reservoir bottle. makes a mess.

brake oil is REALLY bad for paint, it will eat it. and when paint is gone metal is exposed, which will start rusting.

[muhammad.irtiza]

Checked the owner's manual today... There is no such thing as a gear shift indicator. The only thing left is that braking system needs attention. I will take the car to SNA Motors this Tuesday to collect the documents and I will see to it attended.

Speaking of Owner's Manual.

PAKSUZUKI WAGON R OWNER'S MANUAL RESTORATION

So I doubted I will evem get an owner's manual, but to my surprise the owner's manual, and even the smallest of accessories like tyre pressure reducing pin were accurately kept in thermopole boxes in trunk.
However, the owner's manual was nothing to write home about. It appeared to be soaked before, had pages stuck together, and it had fallen apart into many pieces. I arranged the pages orderly and this is how it looked:

Then I went to the stationary shop and got it stapled. When i reached home, I started Ironing it to restore it. Oddly enough, the manual has become very usable now that everything is in order and fixed.

[Massive_One]

Tyres have a max life of 40000 Kms and your have probably been driven 5000kms more.

Sir where did you get these numbers from ?

I've never witnessed such, in fact my car is driven 54 thousands km on stock tyres now and they are still not worn out... probably would go till 60k km ..

[omersiddiqui5482]

@Massive_One dear

@muhammad.irtiza mentioned that the car is 44000 kms driven in the beginning of the threads.

And also check for life of Tyre dear.