Pakwheelers, I need help

[fazalwahab11375]

yes I am the lamest perosn on this earth. how can I help you please. Mr Ali mustafa who is actual owner of islamabad underground know that this is a mirror page. just keep on looking. If you dont like this thread. You are not bound to post a comment. just an advise. and I have lot of other things to do and I dont have time for marketting things. I am a Professional Engineer and makes Allah ka shukar a lot of money and having a wonderful life. These pages will never help.

Thanks for understanding. you have to see the cover page what it says. all the images shows the orignal water marked page address. If I wanted to put up something.. I would have removed the watermark. Just look the page looks same but in actual its not.. for your simplicty..

Is this some sort of a marketing scheme? You are the lamest person on earth, on hand you are posting pictures and videos of tuned/modified cars and on the other hand you are saying don't use them. I've got an analogy for your efforts you are making people look at **** and saying don't you go down there.

[napalm]

argh! ye are talking as if I am encouraging people to carry an AK 47 and kill people. There is a simple differentiation which ye don't seem to understand, I quote again "speeding causes 3% of the roadside accidents not kill 3% people on the road". I would definitely discourage people racing on the streets because that is no place for cars to speed but on highways I won't because that is no place for pedestrians to be, government has made overhead crossing for pedestrian use that. God forbid that happens to anyone but I would look at the scenario not just start blaming the speeding guy bro, highways are meant for speedy driving not for people linger around.

So ye mean that if ye run over somebody because of their mistake then ye and ye buddies r not at fault?

Tapatalk recalls: They say Ghengis Khan's gene pool is so strong that even after eight hundred years, one in two hundred Mongolians carry the strain of his barbaric DNA.

[RajaTalha]

yes I am the lamest perosn on this earth. how can I help you please. Mr Ali mustafa who is actual owner of islamabad underground know that this is a mirror page. just keep on looking. If you dont like this thread. You are not bound to post a comment. just an advise. and I have lot of other things to do and I dont have time for marketting things. I am a Professional Engineer and makes Allah ka shukar a lot of money and having a wonderful life. These pages will never help.

Thanks for understanding. you have to see the cover page what it says. all the images shows the orignal water marked page address. If I wanted to put up something.. I would have removed the watermark. Just look the page looks same but in actual its not.. for your simplicty..

Then what is the point of the second page given both have same motive to eliminate illegal street racing? LOL no offense but this ain't gonna make any difference, neither will it reduce road side accidents. Ye can't eliminate speeding but change irresponsible speeding to responsible speeding.

[fazalwahab11375]

Accident is something different. This is murder.

You don't see updates on page. If we all sit hath per hath rakh kay then nothing will happen.

Then what is the point of the second page given both have same motive to eliminate illegal street racing? LOL no offense but this ain't gonna make any difference, neither will it reduce road side accidents. Ye can't eliminate speeding but change irresponsible speeding to responsible speeding.

[RajaTalha]

So ye mean that if ye run over somebody because of their mistake then ye and ye buddies r not at fault?

Tapatalk recalls: They say Ghengis Khan's gene pool is so strong that even after eight hundred years, one in two hundred Mongolians carry the strain of his barbaric DNA.

First of all be optimistic, I'm not a killing machine nor is any racer lol. I have been driving for around 4 years now and never endangered anyone's life Alhamdulillah because I speed responsibly. But know there are slow drivers on the streets who put lives at risk so may I conclude slow drivers must not be allowed on the streets.

[RajaTalha]

Accident is something different. This is murder.

You don't see updates on page. If we all sit hath per hath rakh kay then nothing will happen.

how will posting this on page reduce any so called 'murders'? I think we should rather focus on what's really causing road side accidents and that is untrained/unlicensed drivers on the roads which mostly are taxi drivers, wagon drivers.

[fazalwahab11375]

Sir. I don't like pota kaleeji . I vomit when I see it. So please if you don't like this thread. Just don't respond. No offense. You have 4 year experience and experience is no substitute to safety. We are talking about drag racing on streets not about licensing issues. That is altogether a different ball and game..

BTW I have 18 year of driving so called experience. Everyday when i sit behind the wheel. I make sure I am driving smart.. Not rash..

The pleasure is for few seconds only but the outcome if its illegal can be catastrophic for both parties. Just go in depth what does this mean.. Be safe

how will posting this on page reduce any so called 'murders'? I think we should rather focus on what's really causing road side accidents and that is untrained/unlicensed drivers on the roads which mostly are taxi drivers, wagon drivers.

[napalm]

Originally Posted by napalm

So ye mean that if ye run over somebody because of their mistake then ye and ye buddies r not at fault? undefined> Tapatalk recalls: They say Ghengis Khan's gene pool is so strong that even after eight hundred years, one in two hundred Mongolians carry the strain of his barbaric DNA.

First of all be optimistic, I'm not a killing machine nor is any racer lol. I have been driving for around 4 years now and never endangered anyone's life Alhamdulillah because I speed responsibly. But know there are slow drivers on the streets who put lives at risk so may I conclude slow drivers must not be allowed on the streets.

I'm not saying you are neither is Wahab. But everyone is saying that by virtue of being in a society where normally the maximum speed limit achieved is 80km/h it would be in the best interests of the majority of the citizens that people who indulge in fast driving, did not make their presence felt in their midst.

Another thing, any lawyer can correct me over here; by law nobody is allowed to enjoy their freedom at the expense of somebody else's. Or in other words, if by exercising your freedom you hurt someone either physically or mentally then you my friend are at fault and not the victim.

[Garcia]

@fazalwahab11375 Shame on you dude, you want your own voice to be heard, and when i commented on the video which you stole, you removed it? you want to impose your crappy laws and justice by force? and don't have the guts to hear what others say?
if you are right then why are you afraid of answering others? why in the hell are you whinning about drag races? aren't there serious issues with the country like target killing and bomb blasts? first take care of those. maybe you just want attention

[TheGreatOneAK316]

Mods close this thread, someone is going too political here.

[Garcia]

its funny how the guy lives in USA yet he is worried about pakistan, if he is worried about pakistan then he should come here and do something instead of crying like a school girl on internet.

https://www.facebook.com/fazal.wahab.94 [ Director Engineering, R&D at Hycrete NJ, USA ]

i have also asked Hycrete to see if they support their Director Engineering's move on internet and keen interest in improving pakistan's traffic rules.

there are illegal drag races going on in usa, but he is doing nothing, yet he wants to take actions by creating a scene on internet?
something is fishy

[Isbunderground]

sir fazal wahab by creating a drama, do you want to attract attention and then make a group and start a political party? what is your main goal? why go after drag racing only when there are so much other wrong things going around us, courrupt government, bribes. even the police taking part in illegal things, but you want to focus on drag racing?

[napalm]

A guy is trying to promote something productive for his country and you guys are trying your best to cut him down by indulging in mud slinging activities? Isn't this the same reason that Pakistan is in this mess today? Somebody tries to bring about a social change and a few, short sighted individuals with limited understanding of human interaction and responsibility start booing at him!
And twenty, thirty years later their own generation abuses them for taking a lack of initiative in improving their lifestyle, when they had a chance.
Instead of trying to throw mud at him use your influence to promote proper education with a long term planning of building a track , catering from go kart races to F1.
Why are you so scared of him? Let him do what he pleases, if you cannot assist him; back off.

[fazalwahab11375]

sir.. you need to read the comments there.

A guy is trying to promote something productive for his country and you guys are trying your best to cut him down by indulging in mud slinging activities? Isn't this the same reason that Pakistan is in this mess today? Somebody tries to bring about a social change and a few, short sighted individuals with limited understanding of human interaction and responsibility start booing at him!
And twenty, thirty years later their own generation abuses them for taking a lack of initiative in improving their lifestyle, when they had a chance.
Instead of trying to throw mud at him use your influence to promote proper education with a long term planning of building a track , catering from go kart races to F1.
Why are you so scared of him? Let him do what he pleases, if you cannot assist him; back off.

[fazalwahab11375]

well done sir..

its funny how the guy lives in USA yet he is worried about pakistan, if he is worried about pakistan then he should come here and do something instead of crying like a school girl on internet.

https://www.facebook.com/fazal.wahab.94 [ Director Engineering, R&D at Hycrete NJ, USA ]

i have also asked Hycrete to see if they support their Director Engineering's move on internet and keen interest in improving pakistan's traffic rules.

there are illegal drag races going on in usa, but he is doing nothing, yet he wants to take actions by creating a scene on internet?
something is fishy

[abzia]

A guy is trying to promote something productive for his country and you guys are trying your best to cut him down by indulging in mud slinging activities? Isn't this the same reason that Pakistan is in this mess today? Somebody tries to bring about a social change and a few, short sighted individuals with limited understanding of human interaction and responsibility start booing at him!
And twenty, thirty years later their own generation abuses them for taking a lack of initiative in improving their lifestyle, when they had a chance.
Instead of trying to throw mud at him use your influence to promote proper education with a long term planning of building a track , catering from go kart races to F1.
Why are you so scared of him? Let him do what he pleases, if you cannot assist him; back off.

+1 Spot on !

I was about to write a similar reply.

[zia1288]

sir fazal wahab by creating a drama, do you want to attract attention and then make a group and start a political party? what is your main goal? why go after drag racing only when there are so much other wrong things going around us, courrupt government, bribes. even the police taking part in illegal things, but you want to focus on drag racing?

On an AUTOMOBILE forum AUTOMOBILE related things would be discussed. What has corruption, bribes etc has to do with the AUTOMOBILE forum?

A guy is trying to promote something productive for his country and you guys are trying your best to cut him down by indulging in mud slinging activities? Isn't this the same reason that Pakistan is in this mess today? Somebody tries to bring about a social change and a few, short sighted individuals with limited understanding of human interaction and responsibility start booing at him!
And twenty, thirty years later their own generation abuses them for taking a lack of initiative in improving their lifestyle, when they had a chance.
Instead of trying to throw mud at him use your influence to promote proper education with a long term planning of building a track , catering from go kart races to F1.
Why are you so scared of him? Let him do what he pleases, if you cannot assist him; back off.

+1

[RajaTalha]

Sir. I don't like pota kaleeji . I vomit when I see it. So please if you don't like this thread. Just don't respond. No offense. You have 4 year experience and experience is no substitute to safety. We are talking about drag racing on streets not about licensing issues. That is altogether a different ball and game..

BTW I have 18 year of driving so called experience. Everyday when i sit behind the wheel. I make sure I am driving smart.. Not rash..

The pleasure is for few seconds only but the outcome if its illegal can be catastrophic for both parties. Just go in depth what does this mean.. Be safe

I'm just saying it's a lost cause, say I was a street racer who can stop me? And if ye are saying ye can't drive smart and fast at the same time even with 18 years of experience than Allah hi hafiz ha lol I do it everyday almost but of course on highways not on streets with pedestrians. And experience makes you better, in a way that make roads safer.

[fazalwahab11375]

Well you are experienced BUT you share road with many other people who are not experienced. on foot, on cycle, bike, or another car. and at 100KM/h I am sorry. Your experince will shatter in less than a second.. we will investigate later who was at fault. But by than the damage might have ben done already...of either party.
Stay Safe.

I'm just saying it's a lost cause, say I was a street racer who can stop me? And if ye are saying ye can't drive smart and fast at the same time even with 18 years of experience than Allah hi hafiz ha lol I do it everyday almost but of course on highways not on streets with pedestrians. And experience makes you better, in a way that make roads safer.

[Taimur1209]

When the government actually decides to build a track then street racing will stop. I am too against street racing but these guys have nowhere to go so they race on the streets. Waisay I have been to many street races and I have to say they do take precautions. They always race after midnight to avoid traffic and they do it on less popular roads and long straights where visibility of people crossing or traffic is good.

Stop going against them cause it is useless and try going towards pressurizing the government to build a track to solve this problem once and for all.