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SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-10 04:24:44 +0500 #41

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SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-10 04:28:45 +0500 #42

@sdogar

yes why not XQ is the best choise because it is pure systhetic oil formulated from PAO (polyalphaolefins) API Group 4,
so use it and first change it after 6k second 10k and third and so on after every 15k

use genuin oil filter along with and replace it at every 5k with top up .

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-10 05:24:34 +0500 #43

@faisal

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BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">MALIK OIL</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ASGHAR</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">NATIONAL MARKET</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0301 - 5436117</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A6+1">2</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PEARL LAB</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">RAFIQUE</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">COMMERCIAL MARKET</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0300 - 5255422</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A7+1">3</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">PAK AUTOS</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">SHAHID</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">GOLRA MORDE</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0333 - 6866125</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A8+1">4</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">SAFDAR KHAN</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">SAFDAR</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">AARA BAZAR</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0333 - 5417598</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A9+1">5</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">ALI AUTOS</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">HASSAN</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">I - 10</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0300 - 6504227</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A10+1">6</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">MAHMANAD OIL</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">BILAL</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">G - 9</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0345 - 9737007</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A11+1">7</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">HAZARA OIL</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">BAKHAT MUHAMMAD</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">G - 10</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0333 - 5264335</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A12+1">8</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">AL LATIF AUTOS</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">RIZWAN</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">I - 9</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">0333 - 5120536</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17 x:num x:fmla="=+A13+1">9</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">KHURSHID AUTOS</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">KHURRUM</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">F - 10</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; 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Thinking (Thinking) 2010-06-10 05:45:59 +0500 #44

@Zic

Couldn't understand the viscosity grpah completely. Please explain in simple words the impact of SAE rating with use of oil relation to ambient temperature.

Also i changed oil of my 2 cars Corolla 2D and margallah to ZIC gear 5. Later what i understood was that Gear 5 is mainly the differential oil and not the Gear oil. i chose it because of bigger operating range with relation to temperature.
There is no specific complaint with gear 5 however i am worried if it will cause any harm to my cars. Both do not have any problem with gears.

Should i change again to gear ff?

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-10 08:31:51 +0500 #45

@Thinking
Viscosity grades are not read like temperature ranges like you are thinking bro
20W50 , 10W40 do not mean it like temperature range from 20 centigrade to 50 centigrade ,
these are multigrade viscosity if i say 20W50 its mean is a oil who has the property of 20W and 50 grades
all W grades denotes that oil is tested in extreem cold condition so there for W means Winter , and other no. with out letter W is that grade with is tested in hot temperature conditions
ok if understand then give me feed back other wise needs more clarification then informe me it would be my pleasure

sencondly as you mentioned that you have changed Transmission oils in 2.OD and Margalla with ZIC G5,
In this regard i would suggest you to drain it and refill with
ZIC GEAR FF , 75W85,
As these are OME recommended gear box oils
finally ZIC Gear 5 will not creat any substential problem instantly but gradually by its use a back lash can be started
so go with ZIC GEAR FF, 75W85

FOR further qurry infrom

zank (zank) 2010-06-10 09:21:46 +0500 #46

Subscribing to the thread.
I have used Zic A+ for my 2004 Cultus quite for long. After a semi-overhaul, rings and piston change, I still havent opted for a synthetic oil at the first oil change and used Petromin Ultra 7, and its giving good results so far. But I will look to revert back to synthetics, Zic A+, next oil change.
But what I see, comparing the specs of both these two, the Viscosity level at 100 degress Centigrade (which is quite normal for any engine) has quite some difference. Ultra 7 has 15.2 whereas Zic A+ has 9 max
What do you think about this comparision in specs, will it create difference in first hand experience?
Plus the addresses you mentioned for Khi authorized dealers does not seem proper. Please revise them, I think they are incorrect, or got mixed up.
Thanks.

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-10 09:44:20 +0500 #47

zank;2247125:

Subscribing to the thread.
I have used Zic A+ for my 2004 Cultus quite for long. After a semi-overhaul, rings and piston change, I still havent opted for a synthetic oil at the first oil change and used Petromin Ultra 7, and its giving good results so far. But I will look to revert back to synthetics, Zic A+, next oil change.
But what I see, comparing the specs of both these two, the Viscosity level at 100 degress Centigrade (which is quite normal for any engine) has quite some difference. Ultra 7 has 15.2 whereas Zic A+ has 9 max
What do you think about this comparision in specs, will it create difference in first hand experience?
Plus the addresses you mentioned for Khi authorized dealers does not seem proper. Please revise them, I think they are incorrect, or got mixed up.
Thanks.

yes you are right about the figurs you gave but some main stats. you should compare if choosing any oil i.e

VISCOSITY INDEX
property of any oil which denotes the rate of change of viscosity with regard to temperature

for example if an oil XYZ has its viscosity 120 cSt at 40 centigrade
when checked its viscosity at 100 it became 15 cSt at 100 centigrade

so what u see oil XYZ lose viscosity 105 point with just 60 centigrade increase of temprature on the other hand

if an oil ABC has its viscosity 89 cSt at 40 centigrade
when checked its viscosity at 100 it remain 9
its mean the viscosity lose of oil ABC is 80 point with just 60 centigrade increase of temperature

so that oil which lose its viscosity less with the increase in temperature
is better choice and this property called VISCOSITY INDEX

REMEMBER ONE THINK MAIN OIL'S PROPERTY ALONG WITH OTHER IS VISCOSITY INDEX THE HIGHER VISCOSITY INDEX THE BETTER THE OIL
AND LOW VICOSITY INDEX MEAN LOW OIL QULAITY
So next time make compaison of visocity index too and then chose wisely

ZIC A+ viscosity index is 157 if your other brand's visocity index is above it then you can go with that
so see it and inform for further clarifications
thanks

Thinking (Thinking) 2010-06-10 10:03:52 +0500 #48

@ ZIC

Thanks for the information regarding transmission oil.

Regarding Viscosity my understanding is still not clear and i am still confused by below mentioned graph

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zank (zank) 2010-06-10 10:11:52 +0500 #49

SKZIC;2247177:

yes you are right about the figurs you gave but some main stats. you should compare if choosing any oil i.e

VISCOSITY INDEX
property of any oil which denotes the rate of change of viscosity with regard to temperature

for example if an oil XYZ has its viscosity 120 cSt at 40 centigrade
when checked its viscosity at 100 it became 15 cSt at 100 centigrade

so what u see oil XYZ lose viscosity 105 point with just 60 centigrade increase of temprature on the other hand

if an oil ABC has its viscosity 89 cSt at 40 centigrade
when checked its viscosity at 100 it remain 9
its mean the viscosity lose of oil ABC is 80 point with just 60 centigrade increase of temperature

so that oil which lose its viscosity less with the increase in temperature
is better choice and this property called VISCOSITY INDEX

REMEMBER ONE THINK MAIN OIL'S PROPERTY ALONG WITH OTHER IS VISCOSITY INDEX THE HIGHER VISCOSITY INDEX THE BETTER THE OIL
AND LOW VICOSITY INDEX MEAN LOW OIL QULAITY
So next time make compaison of visocity index too and then chose wisely

ZIC A+ viscosity index is 157 if your other brand's visocity index is above it then you can go with that
so see it and inform for further clarifications
thanks

Petromin Ultra 7's Viscosity Index is 130 (ASTM D-2270) for its 20w50 Oil. Their 10W40 oil has Viscosity Index of 161 though, but I think Storm hasn't introduced that oil in PK yet.
Thankyou for the info SKZIC

RedBull_ar (RedBull_ar) 2010-06-10 11:46:28 +0500 #50

whats the ideal operating ( 100'C ) kinematic Viscosity value or range for most new engines?

Fawad85 (Fawad85) 2010-06-10 12:11:42 +0500 #51

hello which oil is best my corolla 82 and also tell me where i get in mardan bcos here also available fake zic oil...

VCheng (VCheng) 2010-06-10 13:57:20 +0500 #52

Not necessarily.

A wide Viscosity Index means the use of VI improvers added to the base oil. These will degrade more quickly, leading to shearing down and change of the properties of the oil, some formulations more than others.

More VI improvers do NOT mean it is a better oil just by themselves. It means just that: that the oil has a wide VI when new.

Some of best oils have narrow VIs by design.

The choice of the oil should be based on the base oil and the additive pack, and these have many more factors than just VI.

One should choose the proper viscosity range based on the operating temperatures, the environment, and the use of the engine.

However, having said that, what you are saying may be CORRECT for the oils that are available in Pakistan, so please ignore my comments and accept my apologies if they do not apply there.

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-11 03:18:48 +0500 #53

@Thinking
thanks and keep studing engine oil guide and shortly i am upgrading it and going to give more advance knowlegde about lubricants

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-11 03:19:47 +0500 #54

@zank

wellcome

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-11 03:43:38 +0500 #55

@RedBull

very good question

first of all you should be well awar of Compression ratio while observing ideal kinematic viscosity value at 100'C,
High Compression ratio means very narrow Pistan Ring and cylinder clearance.
and now a days manufacturers are incresing Compression ration for improving there volumatric efficincy
in this regard the maximum compression ration of all EFI (Electronic Fuel injection systems) is 11:1 to 13.5:1 , so in all new EFI engine one can use any engine oil starts from 5W and more advance one can use 0W oils too
coming to your question the ideal Kinematic viscosity for 100'C for EFI is 6 to 14 cSt (all 0W oils KV @ 100'C is 3.8 cSt,and all 5W oils KV @ 100'C is above it and bellow 5 ~9)
Finally oil clearance for Crank shaft of Corolla ,STD 0.015 ~ 0.033 mm
Referance Corolla engine manual 4AF, Chapter Engine overhaul,page 51.
so in these standards clearance all 5W and 10W oils are ideal.
for more information mail me again

Thanks

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-11 03:51:04 +0500 #56

@Fawad85.

for Corolla 82 gasolin engine use ZIC HIFLO, API SM
if Altered diesel engine use ZIC SD 5000. API CH-4

For Mardan contact our Sales person Mr.Ashfaq (0333-9883715.)

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-11 04:33:16 +0500 #57

@VCheng.
You are right in some extent but the true behind VI Improvers is its limit
All VI Improvers has some limit to increase Viscosity Index, which is 18 ~ 25 %
Now keep it in mind if a base oil has its viscosity index with out VI Improver 80 then how much VI Improver increase its VI.
Finally I assure you that if Viscosity Index of any oil above 145, it does not mean that it is all because of VI Improver.
More over ZIC ENGINE oil are being produced from API Group3, and API Group 4, (which’s Viscosity Index are originally high) and in SK Lubricants Korea, which is the largest refiner in ASIA, and is producing it with Yubase and VHVI tech. which means our all oils are originally have high viscosity Index and so very low quantity of VI Improver is being use in ZIC ENGINE Oils

Ghuncha (Ghuncha) 2010-06-12 06:56:21 +0500 #58

in the api doc its is clearly mentioned that the newer diesel rating one is back compatible ..

about CL4 for instance
"Introduced in 2002. For high-speed, four-stroke engines designed to meet 2004 exhaust emission standard implemented in 2002. CI-4 oils are formulated to sustain engine durability where exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) is used and are intended for use with diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 0.5% weight. Can be used in place of CD, CE, CF-4, CG-4, and CH-4 oils. Some CI-4 oils may also qualify for the CI-4 PLUS
designation."

secondly i remember some years back zic people gave membership cards for discounted products, having a fixed quota for a given time period, that was a good attraction and i myself benefited from that, y don't you people start that again?

SKZIC (SKZIC) 2010-06-12 09:43:37 +0500 #59

[QUOTE=Ghuncha;2250221]in the api doc its is clearly mentioned that the newer diesel rating one is back compatible ..

about CL4 for instance
"QUOTE]
@Ghuncha
Dear All Diesel API are not back word compatible because

CF-2 is only graded for Diesel TWO STROKE ENGINE And Latest CI-4 grade oil cannot be used where CF-2 is recommended
Secondly as far as sales promotional activity is concerned we HITEC Lubricants are regularly lounching such activities for our valued costomers

Ghuncha (Ghuncha) 2010-06-12 13:07:44 +0500 #60

i meant that if a 4 stroke diesel needs cd, than ch-4 can be used in it, this is what the api manual is saying