PKDM Honda HR-V . Discussion & FanclubThread

[jklodhi]

Yes. Back seat is for 02 persons as middle seat is raised and is not comfortable

[mustafasethi]

average in city is 13.2 and long around 15.5 without ac.

Just got 17 from it going to gujranwala from lahore but max speed was 90.

The middle seat is raised normal sized people can bear it and fit in it. Sportage of Tucson middle seat is not raised

[bazilahmad]

Does anyone have any contact in Honda or know if they launching Hybrid HRV. With cross selling so well, it seems like a good idea to launch

[pwuser167550015690]

Considering how badly the HR-V failed in the local market, I doubt they'd be planning to introduce an even higher priced variant unless they can significantly bring the price down overall.

Atlas would likely be able to improve the sales considerably if they can reduce the price by PKR 1-1.5 million (basically replace the BR-V) and then launching Hybrid variants in the current price bracket would make sense.

[bazilahmad]

With cross selling successfully at 9.3-9.8m. A hybrid HRV at the same price point should sell too

[ifadey]

Honda products are usually expensive than Toyota. I think HRV hybrid may touch 1 crore, or it could be slightly more than that.

[daniyalcars72]

nope honda atlas strips the cars of many features which are otherwise offered internationally then proceed to overprice the car(charge the same price as the fully equipped car which is offered internationally like in Malaysia ,Thailand)..the build quality is also subpar,thats the main reason of dead sales ..if they pull their pants in these areas they can make a dent to corolla cross sales otherwise not even a chance ..and even globally toyota hybrid are much more successful then hondas ..right now the hrv is competing in an unknown territory almost all buyers will prefer a corolla cross over it as its better build and gives fuel avg of a 660cc while power of a 1.8 with many features although little less space inside as its basically subcompact crossover suv. so Honda atlas should launch hyrbid hrv(which is called vezel) and put decent features not strip it and price it similar only then it can give competition to cross not a likely case ..right now they are making profit of off city sales.

[saad0irfan]

power of a 1.8

You mean 98hp?

[daniyalcars72]

real world driving conditions 96hp isnt relavent..torque plays a role as well.

[acpsa452]

Which car would you prefer Hrv or Peugeot 2008.

[alitayyab]

Between the PKDM HRV and the Peugeot 2008, on paper the Peugeot is a better product all around. In reality though the Peugeot comes with some baggage

1. Wet-belt engine
2. Expensive spares and service
3. Very few choices of service centers
4. Peugeot is not the most reliable brand.

That being said, PKDM HRV is not a fun car. Not only it isnt quick, it lacks some really useful features like cruise control of any sort. It is also not as frugal as the last gen from what i understand (NA to NA comparison). Greedy Atlas should've introduced prior gen HRV with all bells and whistles rather than this atrocity that they introduced. Would've been cheaper to get kits and parts, reuse the L15 engine from city (like in the prior gen Atlas introduced HRV imported from Thailand).

I would never buy the current atlas HRV at its current price. That being said I would not buy the Peugeot either. But if my life depended on it I would get the HRV. It might be bare and boring, but it is going to more reliable in the long run.

[acpsa452]

thanks!

i am currently using Suzuki Swift GLX CVT (new PK Swift), if i replace the car with Stonic, would that be a upgrade and will i have more fun driving Stonic car. or Swift is better then Stonic.

Further i you could please guide me a little, i am planning to upgrade my Swift spark plugs, from normal to iridium. is that a good move?

[alitayyab]

I have actually owned a stonic. I sold it after driving for 174km. It is the most boring car i have ever driven. There is a reason the car didnt do well in Korea and even in most other territories and likely one of the reasons it was introduced here as the kits were likely not very expensive. Here are my reasons for selling:

1. The car is super hesitant in gear 1.
2. It has terrible acceleration. It has better torque and power under the hood, but poor acceleration. Poorer than Swift.
3. The interior is not very spacious, nor is it super comfortable. It might look good, but it isnt really.
4. The maintenance isn't economical either and required at 3 months for keeping warranty (IIRC).

The only thing it has going for it, over the swift, is the kit. It has front + rear parking sensors (front parking sensors are useful) + more features inside, arguably better plastics, auto dimming IRVM, TPMS (although basic). Of all the cars I have owned, it had the most flawless paint quality (compared to the likes of Honda BRV, City, HRV, H6 HEV, Peugeot 2008, Suzukis etc) of the cars i have owned over the years.

I own a swift as well, and i can say with a lot of confident it is a way more fun car to drive. It has the usual "suzuki" characteristics (plastics, paint quality), but it is a good all around car.

hope this helps.

[acpsa452]

brother, i currently have Swift GLX 2022. what would be a decent upgrade for me? used civic X, Stonic, HR_V, Elantra 2.0.

my priority is comfort + reliability. please advise

[alitayyab]

I would go with elantra for the following reasons

1. Civic X: It is not the most comfortable ride around. As one gets older getting in and out of the car is kind of an issue. Plus it is not really built well. I drove a towards the end of Civic X era Oriel and it was not a enjoyable ride at all.

2. Stonic: The GLX is better than Stonic. I had a EX+, sold it after driving 174KM! (yes only 174, not 174000). It is very hesitant in low gears, the ride is just okay. It has a lot of kit; sun roof, front parking sensors, auto IRVM, but the ride is just not an upgrade over the swift. The best things about the stonic were its paint quality and tires and that is about it.

3. HRV: Too expensive and absolute disaster of a launch. I dont know what kind of mushroom Honda Atlas were on when they decided to simply remove cruise control; relegating the car to a city SUV. Apart from looks (that too i would say are subjective), it has nothing going for it IMO. Nothing that elantra would not have

4. Elantra: Has most kit, change tires for a better ride.

All cars listed above will have a high degree of reliability as they are built on tried and tested platforms. You can check mymotorlist for most common engine issues for all cars listed.

[jklodhi]

Used civic Turbo 2017 .

Get car which is well.maintained

[acpsa452]

Thanks Ali ️

[pwuser148009591558]

Seems like its going to happen soon. Hybrid HR-V all options for around Rs.9M

[pwuser148009591558]

15.5 on motorway at 120?

My 1.2 city does around 16.5km/l at 120-130km/h on motorway..

Considering that HRV is much higher than city, it has to cut through a lot more air...so I would imagine around 14km/L for HR-V at 120-130km/h

[mustafasethi]

I don't drive above 120. HRV 's speed remains quite fixed at high speeds and I don't feel the need of a cruise control. a month back i went to kamonke from lahore my speed was 120 till kala shah kaku and rest of the way was less than 90. Kamonke is 83 km from my home one way .

I got 16.8 km per litre till i reached thokar but 16.3 was the average being shown when i got home. My hrv is 4300 km driven till now. Honda had told me that it would be better after 10,000 km running.

And by the way i owned a city cvt 1.2 also. It never gave me more than 13 in the city and 14 when going to kalam and back . At speed of 120 on the motorway, the engine used to scream in pain with 5 person (my family) sitting in it. The cvt reduces power in city 1.2 cvt quite a bit. But this is not the case with the 1.2 manual city. All persons which i have met who have the manual are very happy with the car and say it gives very good milage and does not lack in power.

Regarding HRV, other than the back middle seat, which is raised a bit and is not very comfortable for my grown up children whose turn is to sit on the middle seat, the rest I am quite satisfied. And by the way I purchased this for 84.50 with registration charges in 2023 august but now the price is quite low. Well i am not currently looking to sell it, as even though it is a cvt, it still drives quite well.

As it has double overhead cams, the pick of the car after 100 is very very good. its speed does not fluctuate even when climbing in the motorway, it decreases only a little bit, not like my brv manual.

dont' get me wrong , brv manual 0-100 times is 10 second and hrv is 12.5 seconds. but for long drives like till hunza my family prefers brv due to the extra seats and not the hrv. hrv is used till murree only,