Project Suzuki Margalla

[nnabeel]

Sir,
Yahan spot weld kahan miltey hain. normal dentars k pass to electric welding ka saman bhe theek se nahe hota.

[hassankhan03]

@syeddanishanwaar That's a messed up and a really funny story,

About the Mechanical stuff, When the engine was overhauled the Clutch Plates, and Pressure wheels were Overhauled too. < so the Car is OK in that aspect , And Will surely replace the radiator as it's Full of rust, Combined with the Water pump, I'll add the thermostat and auto fan with some coolant in it. The CAr is running a little rich as it gives Black Smoke when accelerated hard.

[hassankhan03]

Alright @Hassan1991 and @Xulfiqar Bhai will look into it.

[Xulfiqar]

This is why I said I would have scrapped the car, there used to be some shops in Karachi who had the equipment for spot welding, but just the labour cost for spotting the roof panel in place usually was similar to gas batee denter refinishing whole car.

Yazdani motors had it, so did the old chap on tariq road who used to work on old english vehicles. ( forgot his name) and so did the famous guy in khudadad colony.

[syeddanishanwaar]

Yep, I was a lot naive back then.

When it comes to restoration, the devil's in the details. You need to focus on a lot of things for a successful restoration.

Radiator, timing belt, engine seals, ignition timing, and also the type of welding as suggested by Xulfiqar is important. Ignition timing should also be set as per original.

You should also focus on the little things like viper installation, radiator fan, and water leaks to avoid facing big problems like I had to face. Lastly, you should go for bhatti paint eyes closed. I went for the normal paint during restoration and the results were not satisfactory.

Btw, what budget have you set for this project?

[hassankhan03]

Update 24-08-2022

Things have started to get real. The Left side sill was cut down as it was rotted by rust. Removal of it revealed rust over Which I think is the Frame, well it was cut off, alongside it the sides of the floorboard also came off.

Is this the Frame or the siill?

Condition of the Floor board (captured from the inside)

Now Here is where I need You guys' advice, The Denter will be welding a new piece there, Which according to the denter is 22 gauge and the floorboard I guess is 18 gauge. So Will it be okay to Weld that piece there? Upon inquiring From the denter he said, it'll be okay and as it's in the sides. Need You People's advice.

[syeddanishanwaar]

As a rule of thumb, don't use a metal thicker than the base metal.

The same gauge or thickness is important as an uneven thickness will lead to a car leaning to the heavier side that can be dangerous on the road. Uniformity is important when welding.

Although the portion is small, even a micro difference in thickness can affect the aerodynamics and safety of the car particularly at high speeds.

[xenerking]

i guess , the samller the guage, thicket is the metal sheet, 22 will be thin, 14 will be very heavy

[hassankhan03]

@syeddanishanwaar So you are suggesting that it is fine to go with 22 gauge metal?

@xenerking Well i know that, So i guess its fine? By the way its the same thickness from which Hood are made of FX,Khyber etc.

[syeddanishanwaar]

I have edited my answer as the previous one created confusion.

[Hassan1991]

Local denters cannot weld 22 gauge it is very thin to bear the heat.
Use 18-16 gauge. Usually floors and sills are made of 16 gauge.

[nnabeel]

Seriously, this is too much rust. replace all the foot peri, floor pans, wheel arches. The car is open now, decide and replace. once it is welded and closed then u will not have the chance to re do it. this much rust will pop up soon after paint.

The frame beneath the foot peri is badly rusted. replace or remake it. u need to do a full rust conversion job before sending to painter.

[brownrose78]

Agreed with @nnabeel Bhai
Rust never ended and it pops any time specially in current monsoon season, they emerge from beneath sheet.

@hassantaewra
Are you using any kind of rust converter

[hassankhan03]

Agreed with @nnabeel Bhai, The rust isn't that bad as the floors are rock solid except on the sides, The Pictures are a little on the contrasty side as am using an IOS device will be sanding away all the rust away before going to the painter, am sure you'll love the end results. The surface rust came From the Plastic sheet that was laid and trapped moisture.

@brownrose78 no atm I ain't using rust converter, the plan is to cut all the rusted pieces and weld new pieces there and remove all the surface rust.

[hassankhan03]

Update 27-08-2022

New Pieces being welded with the outer sills welded.

[Hassan1991]

Try to paint inside of the metal which will be unable to paint after welding with some zinc rich primer or even put thick coat of paint (yes some will burn off while welding but atleast little will left behind).
Because rust will start again due to being bare metal.

[nfsmostwanted]

What did you do to this part of the floor?

[hassankhan03]

Yes @Hassan1991 The inner sill was rubbed with regmaal and dammar applied wiith new piece welded where needed.

@nfsmostwanted New piece will be welded there.

[Xulfiqar]

What you call daamar is bitumen tar, it doesnt stop rust, infact it can trap moisture and rust away metal even faster.

You need a correct primer as mentioned.

[hassankhan03]

@Xulfiqar Bhai than should I use a Rust converter or any way around?