Pushto singer Ghazala Javed, father killed in Peshawar

[shamiforu]

May Allah rest her soul in peace, She was sure a gem and lot lot better than us.

2468 get a life and let Allah decide who I know is alwadood.

She was like a fresh sweat air in this frustation filled land

[2468]

May Allah rest her soul in peace, She was sure a gem and lot lot better than us.

2468 get a life and let Allah decide who I know is alwadood.

She was like a fresh sweat air in this frustation filled land

He surely is Al-Wadood, that's why continuously giving us time to repent and revert, no wonder why we receive floods and earth quakes

[Dispatcher]

No person is right senses could spray 6 bullets in the head of an Unarmed Girl and in the name of Religion. Everyone has a right to spend life according to their own choices. Some earn living by singing and others snatch other's livings through Corruption like the person 2468 mentioned. There is no comparison for God's Sake man. No one has a right to take someone's life and be a Judge unless their maal or jan is in immediate danger. That's cold blood murder. May God Rest Her Soul in Peace. RIP.

[ZarQaaVi]

i dont know why people get so scared about judgements ,
listen up judgement phobic people , as long we have the ultimate code of conduct , i. e the Quran , we can always refer to who is bad or good , righteous or evil according to Quran .

people today , say ..... " HUMANITY IS THE BIGGEST RELEGION "

thats utter B U L L C R A P

for a muslim islam should be the ultimate relegion , and we should be dealing with disbelievers as told in the Quran , love when needed , war when needed ....

people like these would feel symphathy towards people like BUSH and OBAMA too who have killed millions ....

oh after all , WOH BHI INSAAN HAIN ...!!!

crap crap crap ....

standing ovation from me to 2486 on his stand....

[ZarQaaVi]

plus , whosoever is targetting this murder as a relegious murder ?

DO YOU HAVE ANY PROVE that it was a murder on relegion ? there re other reasons too , i seriously condemn this act of murder ...
but STOP blaming everything on religion without any grounds.... simple ....

[rkhnsh]

Her ex husband killed her because she left him without his will. She got Khula. Religion has nothing to do with it.

[AsadGhumman]

Allah pak mujhe aur meri qaum ko hidayat de ya phir mujhe intiha pasando k is mulk se kahin aur chalay jane ki tofeeq ata farmae (Ameen)

[Dispatcher]

Giving standing ovation for appreciating cold blooded murder of an unarmed female singer (not involved in any politics etc),what is that if not fanaticism. I think Pakistan's GDP will see 10 times growth rate and initiator(fanatics) would get S/O from whole Nation for implementing the Islamic Sharia Law for stealing billions of dollars of civilian resources every budget year. That will be the success for all those religious fanatics to prove that they are capable of handling this country in the future.

I cannot understand the Lyrics but I am very sad to see the death of those Optimistic Eyes and the reason of that was being born in a third world of the third world country like Pakistan where leaders could see only with Greed and countries like Israel and India are providing funds to these fanatics to destroy the country's Economy as proven in the past.

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[capsat]

written on the gate of a graveyard "This place is full of those people who thought that the world could not run without them"

[raza1]

He surely is Al-Wadood, that's why continuously giving us time to repent and revert, no wonder why we receive floods and earth quakes

Thats the difference between us and jew / christian researchers, who are far ahead from us and whole world (including the brainwasher mullahs) is getting benefit from their researches and development.

We simply label everything as Allah ka azaab bcaz of wrong doings of few people, why? Allah talah Adil hai, aur woh kisi kay saath na insafi nahi karta. In floods and quakes innocents children also die, what was their fault?

Please leave the extremism and try to take the things lightly. We are not thekaydar of islam and we are not supposed to declare anyone jahanumi, for God sake please.

Let me share you a story;

A prostitute died and no one was willing to offer her janaza prayers. A very muttaqi person came and offered her janaza prayer. He was asked about the reason, he told everyone that I am a very religious person and have never left any namaz roza etc. once i was offering prayers on a hill, a white bearded person came there and started offering prayers beside me. He was very great ebadat guzaar, even greater than me. I used to take break for some rest etc, but that buzurg never took any rest. I was impressed with his way of ebadat and hence decided to ask him that how did he reach at this level.

When buzurg finished his prayers i asked him, huzoor, aap itni ebadat kaisay kartay hain, aap nay yeh makaam kaisay hasil kia? He replied, aap nay kabhi koi gunah kia hai? I said no!
Bus phir aap is makaam tak nahi pohanch saktay.

I asked him again: what do u mean! Please explain.

He replied, bhai aisay to jhar koi ebadat karta hai, lekin gunah karne kay baad ebadat ka apna maza hai. Aap bhi falaan jaga jao aur gunah karo, phir dekho aap kaisee ebadat karo ge.

I was impressed with his explanation and went to meet this prostitute. She was surprised to see me at her place and asked the reason for me being there. I told her the entire story of that buzurg. She replied, huzoor yeh batain shaitaan kay ilawa koi nahi kar sakta, aap wapis jayay, aur us kay paas lahoul parhyay. Agar woh na bhaga to phir aap aa jaye ga meray paas.

I did as she told me and shaitan ran away. Then i offered the prayers and during prayers i went asleep. I saw a dream that someone was asking me to wake and offer her janaza prayers as we have given her death as we have forgiven her all sins and dont want let her live in the world further. Now you go and offer her janaza prayers.

End of story.

I know you will make fun of this story.

But you will agree that Allah talah rehman aur raheem hai.

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[ZarQaaVi]

Giving standing ovation for appreciating cold blooded murder of an unarmed female singer (not involved in any politics etc),what is that if not fanaticism. I think Pakistan's GDP will see 10 times growth rate and initiator(fanatics) would get S/O from whole Nation for implementing the Islamic Sharia Law for stealing billions of dollars of civilian resources every budget year. That will be the success for all those religious fanatics to prove that they are capable of handling this country in the future.

I cannot understand the Lyrics but I am very sad to see the death of those Optimistic Eyes and the reason of that was being born in a third world of the third world country like Pakistan where leaders could see only with Greed and countries like Israel and India are providing funds to these fanatics to destroy the country's Economy as proven in the past.

put aside the economic impact and other for the sake of commonsense ,
you got problem with sharia law ? are you ready to reject the Law of quran ?

you not happy with the " relegious fanatic" handling the sharia matters , FINE , do one thing , keep whichever government system you want , just implement the shariah law , and YOU run the government > is it fine now ? all the control is yours to keep .

secondly , my standing ovation was for his stand i.e you cannot put every GOOD bad , pious evil person in the category of humanity and save them ... some crimes need a sentence , a judgement and justice , YOU CANNOT COVER UP EVIL PEOPLE for HUMANITY REASONS. , i already said i was against this murder , so dont dare to blame it on relegion without any solid proof , it was a murder on personal issues .

[BackToCivicFaiez]

put aside the economic impact and other for the sake of commonsense ,
you got problem with sharia law ? are you ready to reject the Law of quran ?

you not happy with the " relegious fanatic" handling the sharia matters , FINE , do one thing , keep whichever government system you want , just implement the shariah law , and YOU run the government > is it fine now ? all the control is yours to keep .

secondly , my standing ovation was for his stand i.e you cannot put every GOOD bad , pious evil person in the category of humanity and save them ... some crimes need a sentence , a judgement and justice , YOU CANNOT COVER UP EVIL PEOPLE for HUMANITY REASONS. , i already said i was against this murder , so dont dare to blame it on relegion without any solid proof , it was a murder on personal issues .

I agree with you....

people just blame it on "religious fanatics" cuz its more convenient....

its a strategy to defame Islam and anyone who is following it properly...

they make a fake taliban just to destroy the image of the actual taliban fighting american occupiers in afghanistan.

[ZarQaaVi]

exactly bro , u just made it pretty simple ..!!

[Dispatcher]

Well, I do not want to enter into a never ending discussion or have courage to go into circles to convince anyone who may have strong preconceived ideas or do not have the vision to think with open eyes and mind.

In Islam the penalty of stealing is amputation. To implement this the self proclaimed saviours of true religious beliefs and Takhedars have to first come into action from bottom up not top down. If fanatics could even stop corruption by implementing this single Sharia Law than 90% problems of Pakistani society including prostitution etc would resolve as the people will have the opportunity to live with comfort. This inflation is due to theft and the money is laundered to foreign countries.

By the Grace of All mighty I consider myself a follower of Islam but at the same time won't allow anyone hijack Religion for their personal agenda, at least when I could see it on my screen. Before fighting America these warriors have to fight against the enemy within. America is just acting on its own interest and one of those interest is to get close to weapons of mass destruction and to take revenge of 911. And this is happening in form of bomb blasts, drone attacks and Allah know what else...in Arab countries.They will retreat when its 100-1.

Coming back to the point, there are several similar target killings in that area of Peshawar in last few years and various religious groups have claimed responsibility. But yeah I was referring to the appreciation by 2468 as a fanatic thought. This is the failure of law enforcement agencies. I do not blame real Talibans for this. As they won't attack women and children.

[ZarQaaVi]

1. this is actually not an never ending debate for a Muslim who has firm belief on Quran and hadith .

2. spare with the fact who has closed or open eyes and instead provide with your objection list against the so called shariah demanding " closed eyed " people like me .

3. To implement this the self proclaimed saviours of true religious beliefs and Takhedars have to first come into action from bottom up not top down.

A law is always established at the TOP , it is meant to be established at the TOP , and when its LAW of QURAN we are talking , if not you then some else definitely will become a THEKEDAAR , following the footsteps of sahaba , as they were THEKEAAR TOO .
A law is always ment to be established on a state level not on a ground level . so it is TOP DOWN , NOT BOTTOM UP.

1. the inflation is NOT primarily due to corruption . it is due to the interest based financial system that keeps lending money that doesnt exists .

2. the people you say are trying to hijack the religion are risking their EVERYTHING for it , their life their money their children everything everything , just to establish the law of Quran , and if they are sacrificing so much , THEY DESERVE IT .

3. we all know who actually does it , and who is actually blamed , raymond davis is caught here , explosives expert , pushto speaker , agent of blackwater , who does all the bombing and our sold out government blames it on taliban .

4. look , Muhammad ( saw) always spread the individual relegion ( turning people muslims) with love and care and respect , but when ever there was a matter of defense , or establishment of shariah , he used the sword , out of 33 battles , only 5 were defensive and rest were all offensive including the most famous fatah e makkah . the only asset he ( saw) left after his demise were 11 swords .

shariah is not completely different from democracy , let me give you an example ,

take the current SAUDI system , make a caliphate or a parliament ( its free choice here )
a. establish the islamic crimal law system
b. ban the interest based banking
c. introduce gold coins
d. remove the hypocricy saudis have , e. g , agreement with USA against desert shield , in which US will buy oil from saudia , and make payment in dollars , and the dollars are bound to stay in US only , plus US will build bases in saudia arab , this mainly and a few other measures.

this is what all the mujaheddin are fighting for , and this was the reasom osama objected and was thrown out of arab .

hope this explains enough .

[Haider53]

[Haider53]

A prominent Pakistani female singer, Ghazala Javed, was shot to death Monday by two unidentified gunmen, according to local news reports.
Initial police investigation indicated that the 24-year-old singer’s ex-husband Jehangir Khan may be behind the attack. Last year, Javed asked him for a divorce, which is considered a dishonor in the highly conservative male-dominated society.
However some are speculating that the singer’s abrupt death is a remainder of the dark history of “artist prosecution” in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa region.
The 24-year-old singer, who was popular across the Pashto-speaking communities, had to leave her hometown three years ago because the rise of Taliban made it difficult for artists to perform in the country. The group is known to strictly prohibit singing and dancing in public.
Due to this threat, Javed had to record many of her songs in nearby Dubai.
She is not the only artist whose career was hindered.
The oppression against artists in the country has a firm root, dating back to a decade ago when Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), a coalition of five far-right Islamist parties, gained power in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. The MMA attempted to rid the area of performances, especially of music, in public places.
Some artists, like comedian Alamzeb Mujahid, gave up their careers and left the country. Singer Gulzar Alam grew tired and fearful of his continuing arrests and those of his family members, and finally decided to give up his gig.
Though the gradual collapse of MMA encouraged those like Alam to return to show business, Islamabad has yet to provide a safe environment for artists, especially female performers.
In 2009, female singer Aiman Udhas was allegedly killed by her brothers, who deeply disapproved of her career, a year after MMA lost power in the region. The ex-husband of Javed was also fiercely against her profession.
Even as the governmental restriction is lifted, it seems nearly impossible to eradicate the deep prejudice and discrimination.
No matter who was behind Javed’s death, the case is likely to remain a bitter reminder of how difficult it is for a woman to live freely in the restrictive male-dominated society.

[Haider53]

[BackToCivicFaiez]

1. this is actually not an never ending debate for a Muslim who has firm belief on Quran and hadith .

2. spare with the fact who has closed or open eyes and instead provide with your objection list against the so called shariah demanding " closed eyed " people like me .

3. To implement this the self proclaimed saviours of true religious beliefs and Takhedars have to first come into action from bottom up not top down.

A law is always established at the TOP , it is meant to be established at the TOP , and when its LAW of QURAN we are talking , if not you then some else definitely will become a THEKEDAAR , following the footsteps of sahaba , as they were THEKEAAR TOO .
A law is always ment to be established on a state level not on a ground level . so it is TOP DOWN , NOT BOTTOM UP.

4. the inflation is NOT primarily due to corruption . it is due to the interest based financial system that keeps lending money that doesnt exists .

5. the people you say are trying to hijack the religion are risking their EVERYTHING for it , their life their money their children everything everything , just to establish the law of Quran , and if they are sacrificing so much , THEY DESERVE IT .

6. we all know who actually does it , and who is actually blamed , raymond davis is caught here , explosives expert , pushto speaker , agent of blackwater , who does all the bombing and our sold out government blames it on taliban .

7. look , Muhammad ( saw) always spread the individual relegion ( turning people muslims) with love and care and respect , but when ever there was a matter of defense , or establishment of shariah , he used the sword , out of 33 battles , only 5 were defensive and rest were all offensive including the most famous fatah e makkah . the only asset he ( saw) left after his demise were 11 swords .

shariah is not completely different from democracy , let me give you an example ,

take the current SAUDI system , make a caliphate or a parliament ( its free choice here )
a. establish the islamic crimal law system
b. ban the interest based banking
c. introduce gold coins
d. remove the hypocricy saudis have , e. g , agreement with USA against desert shield , in which US will buy oil from saudia , and make payment in dollars , and the dollars are bound to stay in US only , plus US will build bases in saudia arab , this mainly and a few other measures.

this is what all the mujaheddin are fighting for , and this was the reasom osama objected and was thrown out of arab .

hope this explains enough .

you are correct...

what people dont realize is the fact that taliban has access to alot of funds, millions of dollars etc...and if the taliban commanders wanted they could give up and go to a foreign country and live a life of luxury...
but they give up all that and live a very very simple life for the sake of their religion. Also their objectives have been completely consistent, to implement shariah law in afghanistan. I dont know what kind of a muslim could possibly object to them.

[raza1]

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