Shazo, Bad Trade

[captainattack]

Dear for one, you aren't much junior.. we are almost the same age and almost the same time old on PW (although i have been using since it was created, i joined much later as a member)..
Secondly, i didn't decide anything for you or him.. its an open forum.. everyone is sharing their opinion, so did i; read carefully, it says "I think"..
Lastly, what would you have done different?? if you had directly contacted the culprit in pesh, had you not lost your money then?? he was just facilitating you.. getting you a better price than he would have offered you directly.. and to be honest, he has more chances of getting anything recovered than you ever will.. and when he does (IA) he will share the recoveries with you as due.. Shazo is an honest person.. no use tossing mud on someone dear..

Once again, i have not concluded anything on anyone's behalf. I have shared my opinion which i am entitled too. You can keep this thread going for as long as it you want. or the mods.

Peace!

Bro, it's for the person who bear loss to decide whether or not to post such a thread. I am sure you wouldn't have wrote it if you have had read my thread carefully. It's been three months and I never sought this as a resort but this is what you get when you stop responding. Moreover, I asked him to direct me to the person himself, he didn't. I am not sure if you're familiar with trading ethics, If you were you would be suggesting otherwise.. And for getting me a better price? I am sure you're not that naive to think that shazo does all this work as charity and out of goodwill. Everyone who is dealing here on pakwheels is making something out of it and everyone knows it. Nobody does it out of kindness and who do are not in a practice of trading as a regular. They just do it to help people out. Get your facts right before you share your opinion. Like I said, I have no issues with opinions, whatsoever but I don't appreciate people favoring one side of the story when you know that you would have been completely different if it was your own brother. Nobody is willing to bare loss, at least not the people like us who work their *** off to earn this money.

[dms664]

Subscribed!

Such threads are going to eat NMC in the near future.

PS I would like to request the two volunteers who offered to pay on shazo's behalf to plz pay 1500 each and let this story ends.

[captainattack]

Subscribed!

Such threads are going to eat NMC in the near future.

PS I would like to request the two volunteers who offered to pay on shazo's behalf to plz pay 1500 each and let this story ends.

Yes, please do. Thanks for making this short, bro.

[Vajih102]

.....8 pages of argument.....

You need to make your settings to show you Twenty posts per page as is the case ov the real website; by the Time you Commented, it was four pages only, not eight :D.

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[faiz.aslam.121]

I think both guys are confused and not understanding each other.

There are no screenshots by the OP proving that the Middle man i.e Shazo Bhai was/is willing to take full responsibility in case of any mishaps.

Plus, even if the seller ran off with the OP's money, why is the Middle man to be blamed? He is the one who took time out of his busy life and found the item and got yourself a good deal, probably even a discounted one.

A mutual friend is looking for a Modellista kit- I told him that I would help him look for one ( Check my latest thread ) I found a seller on FB and tagged my friend. They are both dealing with each other, I did him a favour of finding the seller, why should I be blamed afterwards, except if I took the responsibility, which I luckily didn't.

What you both can do: Meet each other, have something to munch and just laugh it off.
Shazo Bhai offered you many free services and it seems like he really cared for you ( Btw, I don't know Shazo personally ).

Regarding his " Friends/ acquaintances ) backing him up, where is your proof that they are lying? I am sure they must've had a good experience dealing with him! Mistakes do happen and by even the most perfect people, it's not like Shazo Bhai has teamed up with Nasir Khan and is robbing everyone, do a tiny search and you can notice many people lost their money by trusting NK.

Take it easy, pray to god that only 3000-/ was gone, imagine if a bigger amount? Learn to forgive people. You will get revenge on the day of judgement, why are you so worried?

That's just my opinion. Next time, try to get deals done in your home city or if you do happen to travel to the same city by any chance, then get it yourself face2face.

I bought bulbs from Farhan's friend, who lives in Karachi. I paid in advance, got the item in 2 days. Imagine I didn't, I would never blame Farhan, it was up to me to transfer it or not- No one forced me. It's fun taking risks as long as you can play the game!

[captainattack]

I think both guys are confused and not understanding each other.

There are no screenshots by the OP proving that the Middle man i.e Shazo Bhai was/is willing to take full responsibility in case of any mishaps.

Plus, even if the seller ran off with the OP's money, why is the Middle man to be blamed? He is the one who took time out of his busy life and found the item and got yourself a good deal, probably even a discounted one.

A mutual friend is looking for a Modellista kit- I told him that I would help him look for one ( Check my latest thread ) I found a seller on FB and tagged my friend. They are both dealing with each other, I did him a favour of finding the seller, why should I be blamed afterwards, except if I took the responsibility, which I luckily didn't.

What you both can do: Meet each other, have something to munch and just laugh it off.
Shazo Bhai offered you many free services and it seems like he really cared for you ( Btw, I don't know Shazo personally ).

Regarding his " Friends/ acquaintances ) backing him up, where is your proof that they are lying? I am sure they must've had a good experience dealing with him! Mistakes do happen and by even the most perfect people, it's not like Shazo Bhai has teamed up with Nasir Khan and is robbing everyone, do a tiny search and you can notice many people lost their money by trusting NK.

Take it easy, pray to god that only 3000-/ was gone, imagine if a bigger amount? Learn to forgive people. You will get revenge on the day of judgement, why are you so worried?

That's just my opinion. Next time, try to get deals done in your home city or if you do happen to travel to the same city by any chance, then get it yourself face2face.

I bought bulbs from Farhan's friend, who lives in Karachi. I paid in advance, got the item in 2 days. Imagine I didn't, I would never blame Farhan, it was up to me to transfer it or not- No one forced me. It's fun taking risks as long as you can play the game!

Simple and honest answer? You connected your friend and then you got out of it.

[shazo]

We already have a volunteer willing to return your money on shazo's behalf.

I'm willing to do the same.

Kindly share your bank details so that you can get your money back.

I understand both parties have been wronged here, but it pains me to see 8 pages of argument over a manageable sum of money.

Let's just end this, for good, on a good note.

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Thanks alot for such big words mate, i m n i already tried to make point clear to poster, no need to pay anything to anyone my dear bro, its not like i cannot pay, its simply about the way it is.

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[shazo]

I said what i have to say, n i believe you got what general/local public think about such situation,its not about newbie or senior, you are not minor my friend, @tilsim is auditor and on senior stage what he said is petty authentic, rest if you still believe that i personally asked everyone that jump into in and take my side then bro its my advise to switch your job time before things get weird.
I never ever ignored you, i was exact same guy who stop everytime when i see u at workshop i was same guy who give u updates when u were unavailable. Even when i received your first harsh msg i stopped by you place when ur dentor was giving compound job. Any how if u still have plans no matter to beatin me up, you are invited to join us at hotspot on sat night or sunday evening,
Clear your concept about junior and senior, i was senior ( never reacted like that way) and i treat you like an experienced person, you want it to go in open public then here are the results of almost 13 hours. Still if you say that people here are dumb n dealing in my favor then i can bring legal advisor here as well but after that m sure you will quit pakwheels by statement k sab milay howa hai!
Take cares
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[Lea300]

@poster
seriously you are putting up a great show for all
bhaijan have you started this thread to sort out the issue or do you want to find people who can give you money on behalf of shazo??and if people are turning out to be helpful that never means that you start to blackmail them by saying likhna asaan hai krna mushkil?
Get a life dude ap pr ehsan kr rhae hain wo na keh apka udhar wapis kr rhae so go easy on words!

[captainattack]

@poster
seriously you are putting up a great show for all
bhaijan have you started this thread to sort out the issue or do you want to find people who can give you money on behalf of shazo??and if people are turning out to be helpful that never means that you start to blackmail them by saying likhna asaan hai krna mushkil?
Get a life dude ap pr ehsan kr rhae hain wo na keh apka udhar wapis kr rhae so go easy on words!

I have chosen my words carefully, perhaps people should have done the same instead of being hypocrites. You first decide what side are you on, if one cannot pay on his behalf then stop babbling about it like you give a damn. I am not putting up a show, you are and people like you who think who can come here and play smart. Ke ji main de deta hoon batao kitne chahiye. Bhai do phir itne ho to? Ager nahi de sakte to why claim? You don't get to decide what I should do because nuksan mera hua hai apka nahi so please, keep your allegations and your BS hypocrisy to yourself and spare me of your lecture as I know my way around such BS.

[Haroon_Tarar]

@shazo and @captainattack

please clear this up for me.

captain sb, you stated that you transferred money to shazo's account. whereas, shazo says you transferred it directly to nasir khan's account.

who is right here?

[shazo]

@shazo and @captainattack

please clear this up for me.

captain sb, you stated that you transferred money to shazo's account. whereas, shazo says you transferred it directly to nasir khan's account.

who is right here?

He transferred 3k to nasir's faisal bank account.later i asked him to give me that receipt when i claimed at faisal bank about fraud n poster said that he lost it somewhere, right captain shahb?
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[shazo]

I have chosen my words carefully, perhaps people should have done the same instead of being hypocrites. You first decide what side are you on, if one cannot pay on his behalf then stop babbling about it like you give a damn. I am not putting up a show, you are and people like you who think who can come here and play smart. Ke ji main de deta hoon batao kitne chahiye. Bhai do phir itne ho to? Ager nahi de sakte to why claim? You don't get to decide what I should do because nuksan mera hua hai apka nahi so please, keep your allegations and your BS hypocrisy to yourself and spare me of your lecture as I know my way around such BS.

Buddy hold your horses, people here who mentioned that they can pay on my behalf, trust me they asked me personally on my cell that give me details of this guy, i did Hold them to prevent such transaction. Buddy dnt try to be over smart here, no one gona pay u a single penny, they can they could, but simply they won't, cz i wont allow them to, the money which you are claiming me are in nasir's account and i myself is victim of that fraud which is 3x more then ur tiny lil amount.

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[shazo]

@shazo and @captainattack

please clear this up for me.

captain sb, you stated that you transferred money to shazo's account. whereas, shazo says you transferred it directly to nasir khan's account.

who is right here?

Here is lil evidence, as i mentioned that i swapped my fon in feb, so dnt have records of that all conversation. But i still have some left in new one,
Plz view 2nd blue paragraph, you will find lil answer,

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[Vajih102]

The Second message with blue Background has made me doubtful. was a third person involved to Transfer Money on behalf ov Captain to Nasir? And Shazo, are you saying you didn't get a receipt ov Proof when you asked for it?

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[shazo]

The Second message with blue Background has made me doubtful. was a third person involved to Transfer Money on behalf ov Captain to Nasir? And Shazo, are you saying you didn't get a receipt ov Proof when you asked for it?

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Naa its like normally people do, like i want buy something n have cash in hand at moment, so i ask u my friend/fellow/colleague to make a online payment for me n take cash from me.
M not sure whom account he used to wire money, this txt was only to show that he wired the money to nasir account by any mean!

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[HAshims]

OP transferred the money to NK and now he is blaming the middle man for helping him out LOL.

I cannot explain in words how helpful Shazo is. He's a REAL GEM, trust me there are very few people like him.

[shazo]

Captain bhai shyed asan bhasha ma ap ko thori c samaj aya,
A is a buyer, B knows Mr. X, B referred A to do trading with X cz his price is better then market, later A found that this trade seems reasonable, A wired money to X account, later X died, now A is asking B n claiming him to give his money!

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[sardarsaeed]

@captainattack: Sir let it go. It's not shazo's fault either. The third party defrauded you both. If shazo want's to pay you the amount from his own pocket well and good, if not then think of it as a bad trade as u said. As you transferred the money to the third party's account, you know that shazo is not lying either.

[Lea300]

I have chosen my words carefully, perhaps people should have done the same instead of being hypocrites. You first decide what side are you on, if one cannot pay on his behalf then stop babbling about it like you give a damn. I am not putting up a show, you are and people like you who think who can come here and play smart. Ke ji main de deta hoon batao kitne chahiye. Bhai do phir itne ho to? Ager nahi de sakte to why claim? You don't get to decide what I should do because nuksan mera hua hai apka nahi so please, keep your allegations and your BS hypocrisy to yourself and spare me of your lecture as I know my way around such BS.

O bhai/farishtae numa admi i guess you just dont want to get treated with respect over here. you are putting up a show dude or else all you want to admit is that you are here to speak BS and we all should let you say all that??no this wont happen here because its a forum/more than a forum to us/our respected senior member is involed so we wont let you play with a respect of someone!
aur jahan tk rahi paiso ki baat toh meine apka na toh udhar dena hai na mein ap jaiso ko qarza deta hun laiken phir b apko blackmail ka bohat shoq hai toh send me ur number in pm and i shall contact you kal evening mein a ja aur mere sae Rs 3000 ka kisi bhi restaurant mein chal kr dinner kr lein yeh offer sirf isliyae keh bdmein aurton ki trha pakwheels pr uchalta na phirae tou!

wait krunga dude! aur ab BS ya koe aur ilfaz dekh kr likhna