Suicide Attack in Data Darbar Lahore

[wik_a]

it's a sad news indeed that people of the minority group are being targeted like that

Which group? They were Muslims, I believe.

[2468]

Having a slight hint in my mind that TE is referring to people who seek help from other than Allah, but are they really in minority:S

[Naweed]

I am not labeling soldiers as corrupt but their officers, soldiers do what they have been ordered to do.

Just one question, the news clips that True-eye has linked, do u think that the Airforce officer who was flying the aircraft planned and carried out the strike on his own or it was due a vast web of intelligence sources, some planners and some executers where may be one link gave a wrong information or did a wrong calcukation.

I'm not in support of anyone here but don't ever think that workers of our forces( no matter what rank) are not muslims or they don't have a love for their country. And true it is that black sheep are in every walk of life. Never blame the system just point your finger at those you try to play wrong.

I wish you could spend just one day with any unit of Pak-Army employed in operational area (whether in tribal areas or on the Indian border) you'll have the true picture of the word "sacrifice"

[c123pk]

@Naweed, if ully agree with you but only if our country wasnt sold to the amreeka by our Generals.

This is where it all started :

YouTube - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto-Security Council Speech (15th Dec 1971) English Subtitles

[TrueEye]

Which group? They were Muslims, I believe.

the expression was rather used as symbolic.. they were muslims, but so are the ahmadis and barelvis..but nevertheless it's unfortunate in any case

I wish you could spend just one day with any unit of Pak-Army employed in operational area (whether in tribal areas or on the Indian border) you'll have the true picture of the word "sacrifice"

apparently the suicide bombers also "scarify" their lives, better yet, in most of the cases it's a gratuitous/complimentary service..

[c123pk]

@ True Eye, our soldiers are our pride, without them Pakistan is nothing, India will eat us and not even burp :S but the problem is when our Army commander sells himself to amreeka and says "Yes Sir",
I believe only a Democratic leader has the power to say "No", but not the likes we have today :S

[c123pk]

Iran khatam ho gaya kia ? its not even a established Nuclear state but still it gives a Danda to amreeka, we are a nuclear state and every single leader of ours that i see is either sold OR is there for his own benefit OR is coward enough to say No Sir !

[wingster]

HELLO!!!! are you guys out of your senses. baat kahan se kahan le jate ho? we should be mourning the deaths of the poor fellows and here you are starting the blame game.

I assume some of you are muslims. i ASSUME because some of the comments i see here can not come from the mouth of a muslim. it doesnt matter to you if u were not effected by it???? well i dont know what to say to that.... except that we all will pray for u.

lets not drag Pakistan army into this. u sleep soundly in ur homes in ur air conditions and ur fans while it guards the frontiers in sunny days and cold nights, out in open in dirt and mud with mosquitoes and insects everywhere. so please, dont label the army corrupt just because there are some corrupt officers in it.

WELL COME TO PAKWHEELS !
this is a common practice here

[2c]

it breaks my heart

[shahbaz_lalani]

WELL COME TO PAKWHEELS !
this is a common practice here

+1

@ the topic,

I feel very upset for the victim's family,I cannot pray as I donot believe in God.

But I can never believe that this was carried out by a Muslim.This must be a false flag operation.The people who are brainwashing these kids CANNOT BE MUSLIM.Be it sunni shia,no muslim regardless of caste can do this kind of act in such a sacred place.

However I donot wish to stray away from the topic's purpose.My condolences are with the victim's family and I strongly condemn these type of acts.

[KamranAslam]

A sad and cowardly act.
Who ever have done it, have no right to be called Human, religion is a far-cry for them (S-O-B's) :@

[Kaisar1]

I don't have the words to describe my pain. Data Sahab is the Respectable place for every Muslims.
absolutely they are not human. why Allah don't pull their ropes for killing the innocent Muslims?

[madhouse12]

I am not labeling soldiers as corrupt but their officers, soldiers do what they have been ordered to do. And they are doing their duties cause we are paying for their heavy expenses. When we are paying for something we have to be concerned where our money is going. Don't talk like we are sleeping in AC, IMF didn't donate us those acs and work hard to earn it. Like everybody else is doing their duties they are doing that too, and if they feel so pitty over sacrificing their lives then they should not be a part of arm forces.

soldier ki pay pata hai kitni hoti hai? what you are PAYING for is the equipment they have to protect YOU. you are not paying for their lives. you CAN NOT pay for their lives. u ASSUME k pay kerdiya to it ENTITILES you to service. what if they refuse your pay and refuse to provide you service?

ask any common soldier in Pakistan army. ask him why he joined the army. the answer will not be "for the pay".

chalo i'll pay you double what a soldier gets. will you go and live that life?

yes the AC's were bought by hard earned cash. but what gives u the freedom to enjoy those acs?

i am very sorry to see that you consider soldiers your servants. really sorry.

go and ask the elected official of your area where your hard earned money is being spent. can you do THAT?

[shahbaz_lalani]

soldier ki pay pata hai kitni hoti hai? what you are PAYING for is the equipment they have to protect YOU. you are not paying for their lives. you CAN NOT pay for their lives. u ASSUME k pay kerdiya to it ENTITILES you to service. what if they refuse your pay and refuse to provide you service?

ask any common soldier in Pakistan army. ask him why he joined the army. the answer will not be "for the pay".

chalo i'll pay you double what a soldier gets. will you go and live that life?

yes the AC's were bought by hard earned cash. but what gives u the freedom to enjoy those acs?

i am very sorry to see that you consider soldiers your servants. really sorry.

go and ask the elected official of your area where your hard earned money is being spent. can you do THAT?

Very well said.

[jz]

people keep this thread fight free

[khurem]

@ True Eye, our soldiers are our pride, without them Pakistan is nothing, India will eat us and not even burp :S but the problem is when our Army commander sells himself to amreeka and says "Yes Sir",
I believe only a Democratic leader has the power to say "No", but not the likes we have today :S

Can you pls explain what is the connection between a democratic leader and saying No to America? I believe the opposite in fact as a democratic leader only lives on support from all allies and forces, and the biggest force right now is that from the world. So he can never. In democracy you have to please everyone, and issues which are critical for nation as a whole cant get resolved as the democratic leaders does not have what it takes (read 'balls') to make a bold decision. That's why Kalabagh Dam can never be built by a democratic leader. An autocratic leader like Saddam Hussain, Fiedel Castro and Qazzafi or a person who has the power to make decisions all by himself like Ahmedinejad can easily say No to America.

And as for all appologist Taliban supporters here, you can never justify killing anyone in a suicide bombing, no matter what. You only comment here easily in your comfy rooms because your dear ones have not lost their lives or limbs in those suicide bomb attacks claimed by Taliban.

Just a question for all of you, Suppose a man goes in your home, brutally slaughter your mother or your only child. You get all in revenge and gets that person and ask why he did this. He says because his mother and child was also killed in an attack by Army. So I retaliated. Will you condone him? Just put it on yourself and think. Then you won't be giving these irrational insensitive comments about Taliban being wronged too, so its all justified.

[haali]

Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon

1 adh member k ilawa kisi ko Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon kehnay ki taufeeq nahi hui, isss thread se hum apni Qaum k "mental disorder" ki intensity dekh saktay hain...

Jo kutch yahan discuss horaha hain, wo Pakistan k 80 Channels per roz discuss horaha hai, kon sahi hai kon ghalat, ye faisla Allah k ilawa koi nahi kersakta.

1 baat per he kisi ka ittefaq nahi hai to inn Mulk-dushman-forces se khaak laraingay.

[devilslayer]

Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon

1 adh member k ilawa kisi ko Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon kehnay ki taufeeq nahi hui, isss thread se hum apni Qaum k "mental disorder" ki intensity dekh saktay hain...

Jo kutch yahan discuss horahi hain, wo Pakistan k 80 Channels per roz discuss horaha hai, kon sahi hai kon ghalat, ye faisla Allah k ilawa koi nahi kersakta.

1 baat per he kisi ka ittefaq nahi hai to inn Mulk-dushman-forces se khaak laraingay.

+1

[khurem]

Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon

1 adh member k ilawa kisi ko Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon kehnay ki taufeeq nahi hui, isss thread se hum apni Qaum k "mental disorder" ki intensity dekh saktay hain...

Jo kutch yahan discuss horaha hain, wo Pakistan k 80 Channels per roz discuss horaha hai, kon sahi hai kon ghalat, ye faisla Allah k ilawa koi nahi kersakta.

1 baat per he kisi ka ittefaq nahi hai to inn Mulk-dushman-forces se khaak laraingay.

Bro, if someone doesn't write Inna-lillah-e-wa-inna-ilaihe-rajioon, it doesn't mean he has not said this in the heart. This is pre-assumption.

Aur mulk dushman forces se larnay se pehle first yeh identify karna zaroori hay k mulk dushman force hay kon. Taliban, Army, USA, India, or someone else jis ki itni jurrat hoyee k Data darbar main hamaree sacred shrine main itne zyada logon ko shaheed kiya? It's not a sin to discuss who killed these innocent souls and are they criminals or justified in their actions.

[v8]

This was another sad incident of the same chain

If we correlate things, chains will lead back to 9/11. It is all part of Big Game Plan settled by US with Israeli think tanks against muslim world. Their plan to de-part / weaken our country is one of that. Its all part of that chain;
-Bringing terrorists in our land like Swat & Waziristan and then we're forced to kill our own people like in Lal-Masjid :mad:
-Creating / Bifurcating provinces to promote civil-war (Abbotabad Incident) and Target Killing in Karachi :mad:
-Targeting religous places (Prade Lane Rwp, Data sb Lhr, Ahmadi's Mosque Lhr and many more). Again to promote civil war! :frown:
Bolton market blast: Targeting economy giving loss of more than Rs. 30 Billion in one shot
IMF Loan: Planned in a such a way that it automitically targets to weaken our economy, increasing inflation at highest levels.

In last ten years, the bad has got worst and they will continue doing it till their targets are acheived.

We can restrain them by Unity, Courage and Patience. But question is how, our young bloods are always ready for rubbish like Audio-GTG :S
So shamefull.

If we don't wake-up as a nation, i'm afraid, we'll break apart! (God forbid)