The Alternative Energy Thread - Generators, Solar, UPS, Wind

[Faisal_Computer]

Hi,
Can you please give me estimated price for.

6 PC with 19 inch LED
1 Fan
2 tube lights

backup must be for atleast 8 hours
Br

[myhonda]

Normal cheap ups do not produce pure sine wave which harms electronics , APC Ups , They produce pure sine wave so they are a lot better!
But the ones in Pakistan are very old models from late 1990s to early 2000

We have all APC UPS manufactured after 2010 ......... ya i no that sum people r imortin APC UPS thro containers but those UPS r junks ........ thy repair n sell them ..... we hv upss which we trade in from our clients when thy go for hi rating UPS n don want small UPSs ny more .........

[myhonda]

Hi,
Can you please give me estimated price for.

6 PC with 19 inch LED
1 Fan
2 tube lights

backup must be for atleast 8 hours
Br

2.2 KVA in APC UPS can run this load easily ..... it works with 4 batteries ...... its a pure sinewave ups with output 220 volt is fix .... as for backup times it all depends on batteries .. if u r using local wet batteries than backup time ll be 2 - 3 hours n if u r using dry cell heavy duty batteries like NARADA , SACRED SUN etc etc thn its ovius backup time ll increase many folds .....

[Faisal_Computer]

2.2 KVA in APC UPS can run this load easily ..... it works with 4 batteries ...... its a pure sinewave ups with output 220 volt is fix .... as for backup times it all depends on batteries .. if u r using local wet batteries than backup time ll be 2 - 3 hours n if u r using dry cell heavy duty batteries like NARADA , SACRED SUN etc etc thn its ovius backup time ll increase many folds .....

price for 2.2Kv ?
also tell me warranty and repairing and after sale service ?
Br

[myhonda]

Brother Apc is not pure sine wave it has filtered output so thats why fans dont give noise. I am using the 3000va model. No doubt it is a good ups. It has been trouble free since i been using it.
I am also using two 3000 watt pure sine wave ups. All three have been checked on oscilloscope . Apc was found to be non pure sine wave. Also no where on their site they state it is pure sine wave.

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dear below under is a link and its details from apc ...... yes apc is not using pure sine wave in its technical specs but if u search apc surt 3 kva which is an online double conversion topology ups . here also in its specs thy hv mentioned sine wave instead ov pure sine wave n its pretty clear that all online upss are puresine wave without ny doubt ..... but if u look for back ups 650 va it says STAND BY topology which is modified sine wave like homage n other local ups ....... following under are the links :

Smart UPS vs Back-UPS difference? | Universal Transfer Switch

Buy APC Smart-UPS RT 3000VA 230V - Technical Specifications and Information | APC

Buy APC BACK-UPS CS 650VA 230V ASEAN - Technical Specifications and Information | APC

Smart UPS - [pure sine wave output|http://nam-en.apc.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1356/], some models support add on battery packs, ALL outlets are battery backup/surge protection, available SmartSlot for add on accessories, powerchute business edition via USB or serial and included benefits, TVSS ground screw, optional EPO, automatic voltage regulation

Back UPS - step approximated sine wave, only a few older models support add on battery packs for more runtime, some outlets are battery back up and surge and some are surge protection only, no ability to add accessories like a network management card, uses powerchute personal edition only via USB, data line protection, no EPO, only some models have AVR

basically, a Smart UPS is a network and server class UPS that is more beefier and can handle larger loads. Back UPS is more of a consumer type device for smaller computer type loads.

lastly, some units also offer different topologies within each family -> http://nam-en.apc.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/727

[myhonda]

price for 2.2Kv ?
also tell me warranty and repairing and after sale service ?
Br

warranty is one year depending on price n yes we hv all the required tools to repairs any apc ups from 500 va to 300 kva ...... for price i have sent u a PM ........

[omar4494]

Also shoot me price in PM for 2.2 kva, I am also lookingone now a days.

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[myhonda]

check the ups charger with a ampere clamp meter .. mite b possible ur ups is not charging it . as u were tellin that the lite didnt go the hole whole day tu its ovious that may be ur ups is not charging it ....... if after checking the ups turns out to be ok then check the battery thro a battery tester ..........

[myhonda]

Also shoot me price in PM for 2.2 kva, I am also lookingone now a days.

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k ...... i can do it ....... i think u r in lahore ..... u can visit us ny time ........ we r in johar town

[huzaifa.haroon]

We have all APC UPS manufactured after 2010 ......... ya i no that sum people r imortin APC UPS thro containers but those UPS r junks ........ thy repair n sell them ..... we hv upss which we trade in from our clients when thy go for hi rating UPS n don want small UPSs ny more .........

But the prices of new models are sky high too!
Though i know it is a trusted company , I have Used APC for 2 years or so ...!

[myhonda]

But the prices of new models are sky high too!
Though i know it is a trusted company , I have Used APC for 2 years or so ...!

Next tym if u switch to APC again thn do let me no ....... i ll update u the price of that time ...... dont worry i hv been sellin apc for 1999 ..so i no which the price ov every model .. mite b poosible u hv landed in rong hands cuz once an APC user is always an APC user .... do let me no the price wen u ll willin to buy .... i m in lhr so i cant help u there but i cn give u the least possible price n ll guide u how to check the authencity ov the ups .... so no one can ever blufffffff u .......

[qwertypoiu]

Where are you located in johar town, pm me the price of 2.2 one as well.

[big_show]

Thank u so much for the info abt the apc ups. Im Planning to buy apc ups, and this info comes in handy.

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[myhonda]

Where are you located in johar town, pm me the price of 2.2 one as well.

PM sent ......... contact details r mentioned there ....... its opposite xpo centre main gate 1 entrance ..........

[myhonda]

I have apc 3000xl.Can i put it in standby mode so it run&charges batteries when wapda is on&turn off when wapda is off.it is very hot to touch now days so i want to give it rest sometimes by avoiding running on batteries when not in use.
The 2nd thing is if i turn off apc by pressing power off button&the wapda electricity goes&come back the circuit breaker for apc trips off.why it behaves like this

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Yes, u can put it in standby mode ...... just press the off button ...... all load will be off ....... it will charge the batteries when wapda is there n wont discharge wen wapda is off ......

wen u turn on ur UPS n breaks trip means ur there is load which is on ... wen ever u switch it on from standy mode first turn off all the load attached with it ..... once the ups is in ac mode thn u can switch vrything on .......

[myhonda]

i have an APC-650VA (400W) with 9AH internal dry cell battery. I use ADSL Modem, Wireless Router and Cordless phone on it. Total load ? 4W. Runs 2-3 hours. Bought it at 11K brand new.

in case ov new purchase or service ov APC ...... do contact us .....

Best Regards

Murtaza Ajmi Khan
Sales & Marketing Lead
Cell: +92 321 499 70 60
murtaza@uwt.com.pk

UniWorld Technologies
Flat # 7, 3rd Floor, Tariq Centre, HIII, Johar Town, Lahore. 54770- Pakistan
Phone: +9242 3595 14 95, Fax: +9242 3617 04 99.
Email: sales@uwt.com.pk, support@uwt.com.pk
URL: UniWorld Technologies
FaceBook Page : www.facebook.com/APCUPSSYSTEMS
LinkedIn : UniWorld Lahore
Skype Id : murtaza.ajmi1

[myhonda]

Been using Systek UPS for last 7 years now... initially i was using their 1000 VA (500 watts) UPS with 2 batteries + 1400 VA (700 watts) UPS with 3 batteries and now since last 3 years i am using their 3000VA (1500 watts) with 3 batteries + 1600 Va (800 watts) with 4 batteries.
My 7 years experience with them has been an outstanding one. I literally run everything except my fridge/Freezer/AC on them. They are pure sine wave, robust, resilient, well made, do not abuse batteries and with an excellent after sales service. i can go on and go on for hours but to sum it up "Their UPS are best bang for bucks".
I have relatives and friends who are using Hommage, Mercury and APC... amongst these only APC units come close to Systek. Homage and Mercury are good initially but do not last that long.
The biggest downside of Systek is their initial price. So about 4 to 5 friends of mine are using a locally made UPS by a guy called Asad. He has his own manufacturing set up near hall road and makes everything from scratch. Met him a few times as well, nice chap and knows all the basics as well as details of UPS. His products have also proved to be very reliable and in last few years i have yet to hear any complaints against him. The biggest plus about him is that you know his place and you simply take your UPS to him and he will have it perform like new within a few hours e.g. Last week a friend UPS failed due to a local electrician so we took him to hall road, went to anarkali and picked the UPS on our way back about 3 hours later.
Hence if i ever have to recommend a UPS i would say Systek or the one by Asad. no 3rd option for me.

For God sake u r comparing a local ups with a branded UPS like APC ..... APC 1 KVA makes 670 watt ...... n its 3 kva makes 2700 watt ..........

[myhonda]

@sammalik, Its installed this morning, So it will take few days to observe... But its small in size, silent and intelligent UPS with good charging speed...I consulted lot of people regarding that...There are two best options

1- Find some local UPS manufacturer who can provide you warranty and good support service. If you like I can refer a manufacturer who provide two year complete warranty of his UPS at home service. (economical Solution)

2- Go for some branded/company made UPS... An expert told me no brand remain constant, Every brand has some good and bad reviews... He advised to stay away from HOMAGE which has lot of complaints this season and have pathetic support. So options left APC (the real king), Systek and Cyberpower

A) APC refurbished/secondhand American UPS... No.1 & no match in quality. But problem is: It require double UPS wiring and second draw back is there is no Warranty available.

B) Systek provide free home delivery and installation service, They have standard model which are nicely built (smart & silent) plus they have proper complaint center and field staff and provide good support. Top banks in Pakistan use Systek in their branches

Batteries: This season experts are suggesting AGS/Phoenix Or Volta (which is short in market).

No matter from where you purchase UPS, Always make sure you get good support service.

Some one has mis guided u ..... APC runs with both single n double wire ...... by default it generates it owen nuetral but as mostly clients are switching from local or pak cheen dosti ups to APC so we have to convert it from double to single wiring ups . now it uses wapda neutral .......... and as warranty is compared we give warranty from 3 months to one year depending on the clients location n yes the most how much he is willing to pay ........ for more queries abut apc contact us .....

Best Regards

Murtaza Ajmi Khan
Sales & Marketing Lead
Cell: +92 321 499 70 60
murtaza@uwt.com.pk

UniWorld Technologies
Flat # 7, 3rd Floor, Tariq Centre, HIII, Johar Town, Lahore. 54770- Pakistan
Phone: +9242 3595 14 95, Fax: +9242 3617 04 99.
Email: sales@uwt.com.pk, support@uwt.com.pk
URL: UniWorld Technologies
FaceBook Page : www.facebook.com/APCUPSSYSTEMS
LinkedIn : UniWorld Lahore
Skype Id : murtaza.ajmi1

[myhonda]

I have a very bad experience with Systek. I bought two UPSs from them several years back. Both of them went bad within the warranty period. One UPS Excelsior series 1KVA broke down 6 times within the warranty period. Even after getting fixed, it did not work properly. During loadshedding it would work fine, but when the light came back on it would not switch to Wapda, instead it kept draining batteries until they were dead. I got so sick and tired of it, when the warranty period expired and it went dead, I did not bother taking it to them for repair. Systek is JUNK as far as I am concerned.

Finally poeple are paying attention now .....

[myhonda]

.. APC doesn't require double wiring just your normal single wire works
.. it has no effect on appliances when it switches
-- you can manually adjust it setting by downloading its software and hooking up with serial port on its back (haven't tried it yet )
.. it gives you the exact rated load
.. it consumes less power and gives better output due to better power factor
.. in lhr it is for 12000 and in pindi around 14000 for 1500va model
i think it is the best of them all

but yar u hv to convert it into single . cant just insert a single output wire in the ups . it wont give ny volts ... yes the software is called power chute . just download it from apc site n connect ur laptop / desktop computer with the ups ... install software ... n it will tell u every thing u need from ups . u can also adjust sum settings according to oyur requirements ..............