The Phantom Of City Sadar Road

[dms664]

Many many congratulations sir, it sounds great.

And, "AIK AZAAD MULK KAY AZAAD SHEHRI KI HESIAT SE HAM SAB KO APNI KHWAHISHAAT KA IZHAAR KARNA CHAHIYE". "SIR AAP KI GAARI KO DEKH DEKH KAY AANKHAIN KHARAAB HO GAI HAIN, KYA KABHI ISS MAIN BETHNAY KA BHI MAUQA MILAY GA"? If yes, than please i am going to be the first one to sit on the co driver's seat with you. I really want to see myself on top of the world.

Guys, lets make a list, off course with the permission of the owner
1. Noman Hadi
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8.

count me in

[chali]

many many congratulations sir, it sounds great.

And, "aik azaad mulk kay azaad shehri ki hesiat se ham sab ko apni khwahishaat ka izhaar karna chahiye". "sir aap ki gaari ko dekh dekh kay aankhain kharaab ho gai hain, kya kabhi iss main bethnay ka bhi mauqa milay ga"? If yes, than please i am going to be the first one to sit on the co driver's seat with you. I really want to see myself on top of the world.

Guys, lets make a list, off course with the permission of the owner
1. Noman hadi
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3.
4.
5.
6.
6.
7.
8.

hey every one?i would be the first one,ask fawad bhai

[fouadhafeez]

To me the cranking required to start the engine seemed rather prolonged, once started the engine sounded lovely though!

Asal mein, the engine still isn't being started from the conventional starter switch...and you might have noticed Irfan having to "hotwire" it, first thing in the morning. It fires up nicely, Doc. I can only attribute the long crank to faulty "hotwiring" technique on Irfan's part.

Any plans for bead locks, otherwise I feel keeping tyre pressure 15psi + would be necessary, as filling up these monsters with ordinary portable pumps would be impossible if it ever does deflate during offroading. Would be worth enquiring what sort of tyre pressures ordinary tractors here use for their rear tyres during normal use?
To be honest, I have no such plans for now (for beadlocks, that is). However, this can't be rules out at some latter point in time. I guess we'll have to see. Albatta, a compressor for quick tire inflation IS on the cards. I'm inclined towards keeping a 20 psi pressure in those tires, to keep the ride nice and soft. AND cater for "unplanned" off-road incidents!

[fouadhafeez]

Many many congratulations sir, it sounds great.

Thanks, buddy.

And, "AIK AZAAD MULK KAY AZAAD SHEHRI KI HESIAT SE HAM SAB KO APNI KHWAHISHAAT KA IZHAAR KARNA CHAHIYE". "SIR AAP KI GAARI KO DEKH DEKH KAY AANKHAIN KHARAAB HO GAI HAIN, KYA KABHI ISS MAIN BETHNAY KA BHI MAUQA MILAY GA"? If yes, than please i am going to be the first one to sit on the co driver's seat with you. I really want to see myself on top of the world.

Guys, lets make a list, off course with the permission of the owner
1. Noman Hadi
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
6.
7.
8.

Because of the tremendous outpouring of affection for this beast (as is manifested by the interest, and concern, and attention everyone showers upon it), I actually feel as though it belongs to everyone, and that I'm just its custodian! It'd be my absolute pleasure for all enthusiasts to be its driver...and for me to be co-driver with them. So a list isn't really required!

[fouadhafeez]

[fouadhafeez]

The Update

Ok...so I spent a fair amount of time in the Phantom's seat, thrashing it about, some.

Analytically speaking...there're a lot of things that need to be fixed for the beast to be considered "right". In no particular order, these are as under:-

1. The front and rear shackles DEFINITELY need to be re-positioned, so as to cater for some sway and flex in the leaf springs.

2. The 7:37 guchha gives it HUGE power and take-off. Perhaps even TOO much (I mean...wheelspin with 42 inch tyres?!). The possibility of using a 9:37 guchha after all, which can be VERY easily modified for differential locks, MUST be looked into.

3. The Death Wobble IS very much present. I suspect this is because of poor ends and connecting rods...and the lack of steering dampers. Another aspect that MUST be corrected.

4. Brakes are perfect!

5. Steering is exceptional. For such a big, hefty beast...with big, hefty tyres, the turning radius is small and the power steering works like a dream.

6. Articulation is good. The actual fit and finish of the mudguard is going to add at least another inch gap between the wheels and the mudguards. The dead-end bump stops need repositioning!

7. We had initially planned for "slim" front seats to prevent the ride height of the driver banging his head against the roof. Well...happily there's at LEAST 8 inches gap between my head and the roof, while I'm seated on the stock FJ40 driver's seat. This gives us a lot of flexibility in choosing comfortable furniture for the front. Range Rover seats would look kind of blazing hot, methinks.

8. The tranny is fabulous. Nikku Ustaad told me of a visit he received from a Quetta-waal, while the engine and gearbox were lying with him to be fitted. PKR 200K were offered for the gearbox, alone! That makes me very happy, indeed! As far as its performance is concerned, it's an absolute beauty. Slick, precise, and gives wonderful performance.

9. The positioning and placement of the shaft is a work of art, unto itself. Great job by The Dream Team.

10. This monster BEGS to be painted matte black. Guru Ji, however, has different ideas, with regards to colour!

[qwertypoiu]

you should have taken a picture of it with the mehran.

[fouadhafeez]

you should have taken a picture of it with the mehran.

LOL

Actually, this was a completely random picture. The angle of the vehicle provided just the right capture. A pity I only had my mobile phone at hand, to snap it.

[chali]

[fouadhafeez]

I discussed this at length with Nikku and Jamil Ustaads. Jamil tells me that the mudguards are actually going to go up by about another inch, by the time he finishes the vehicle (they're still a work in progress, after the initial fabrication). By shifting the front and rear shackles inwards, by about 4 or so inches, the vehicle should also gain a couple of inches height. In addition to this, we're also going to position the bump stops in such a manner that they'll prevent any sort of rubbing from occurring (that is, by preventing any further travel of the shocks/springs). Hopefully, this SHOULD solve any potential problems with regards to rubbing. THIS aspect, however, is pretty much inevitable, when you mount such huge wheels.

And anyways...if the wheels rub too MUCH against the mudguards...we'll simply remove the wheel-arches, altogether!

[chali]

u can also increase height by adding 2-3 inches bigger shackles from existing ones

[fouadhafeez]

u can also increase height by adding 2-3 inches bigger shackles from existing ones

Another excellent idea! Will discuss with the Asaatiza Karaam, tomorrow.

P.S. To be honest though, I'm not too keen on it growing MUCH more in height. It's already a VERY tall beast. For it to become taller, surely CAN'T be good for ratio / proportion and aesthetics...let alone mechanical equilibrium.

[aamir567]

Good to see Phantom on the road.
It is looking like a MONSTER

[fouadhafeez]

Good to see Phantom on the road.
It is looking like a MONSTER

Shukran, Guru Ji!

[SuhaibKiani]

The Update

2. The 7:37 guchha gives it HUGE power and take-off. Perhaps even TOO much (I mean...wheelspin with 42 inch tyres?!). The possibility of using a 9:37 guchha after all, which can be VERY easily modified for differential locks, MUST be looked into.

Just stick to 7:37 for now, 9:37 is for wimps only
Kudos on progress for far!
Mashallah!
SK

[fouadhafeez]

Just stick to 7:37 for now, 9:37 is for wimps only

Well THAT certainly made me spit out my coffee, as I broke out into uncontrolled laughter from reading it in the morning!

Kudos on progress for far!
Mashallah!
SK
Thank you, brother. I have the feeling however, that it's STILL quite a long haul to the finishing post.

[fouadhafeez]

Just stick to 7:37 for now, 9:37 is for wimps only
Kudos on progress for far!
Mashallah!
SK

Had a long discussion with the Dream Team on the aspect of the 9:37 axles / diff locks. We're sticking to the 7:37 after all...for the simple reason that the 9:37 / diff lock option can be exercised at any time.

Besides...your words drew a peal of laughter from everyone present in the discussion...

..."9:37 is for wimps, only"

[fouadhafeez]

u can also increase height by adding 2-3 inches bigger shackles from existing ones

We're opting for this, as well. The Phantom will have extended shackles, front and rear.

Well advised, Ali!

[fouadhafeez]

What a hot T-Shirt would this make?

[chali]

We're opting for this, as well. The Phantom will have extended shackles, front and rear.

Well advised, Ali!

thanks