The Rxi (Revived)

[Borris]

Can you suggest the best place to restore my Liana? Some place where the mechanics really do know what they are doing. Thanks again.

[car_bus2008]

Hey bro Skill i also own a Liana 2009 LXI FF CNG.Its the first time my car is going for maintenance and is driven 142000km since it landed to our home.

• I want to change its all belts except timing belt.(Price of belts)
• Rear Shock Springs need to be changed because car is up from one side and down from other.(Price of springs)
• Tie rod end makes noise of left side and just got changed the axle of left side.(Price of tie rods)
• How to wash engine of Liana at home with water as i have read somewhere never to wash liana engine with water just to blow air.
  Answers will be preferred quickly.Pic is attached of my Liana if you dont mind.
  
  

[Skill]

Aoa Skill, I bought a Liana Eminent 2007.

I need to restore it to almost new condition. (Mechanical Condition Only

I am satisfied with the exterior and interior.

Can you help me big time and list ALL the things that I can replace with genuine parts to make it just like new.

I can spend anywhere from 100 000 to 150 000

I really want it to be mechanically as good as new one.

The engine seems to be very weak. Can I replace the whole engine or just replacing some parts will do the trick?
The odo says it has done just about 100 000 I don't believe that stat as it has quite a blow-by.

It has CNG installed, which I will remove.

Many thanks for the help.

Which mechanical parts are due replacement,to know,go to reputed workshop and get know completely,you can then discuss it before going for repairs .
100k to 150k is a handsome amount,do not let it reveal to any mechanic
I am always against replacing engine otherwise its your personal preference .(Replacing engine will lead you to excise office and changed engine number vehicles becomes doubtful for many buyers hence resale issues,secondly you will be changing not only engine it might include ecu and some cases complete wiring as well)
Overhauling an engine is far better,you will know what you would be putting in engine .
Cng again your personal matter otherwise cng on eminent is not bad at all.

[Skill]

Can you suggest the best place to restore my Liana? Some place where the mechanics really do know what they are doing. Thanks again.

@nomi700 , @proverbial_slang & @iamadee will guide you best for the workshop in lahore.

[Skill]

Hey bro Skill i also own a Liana 2009 LXI FF CNG.Its the first time my car is going for maintenance and is driven 142000km since it landed to our home.

- I want to change its all belts except timing belt.(Price of belts)
- Rear Shock Springs need to be changed because car is up from one side and down from other.(Price of springs)
- Tie rod end makes noise of left side and just got changed the axle of left side.(Price of tie rods)
- How to wash engine of Liana at home with water as i have read somewhere never to wash liana engine with water just to blow air.
Answers will be preferred quickly.Pic is attached of my Liana if you dont mind.

Nice car and missed to see you lately as most of the folks were busy so no gtg held on my last trip,will see it someday hopefully.
About belts visit https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-2 prices varies from 500 to 700 for bendo brand which is much reliable and if you go for oem then one belt is around 2.5k,it does not have timing belt rather M13A is equipped with timing chain which does not need replacment as soon as it gets out of shape or broken.
Springs are costly at 3s about 15k per spring and you can get qabli springs very cheap around 3k to 5k a set,before buying make sure newer ones should not be pressed like your older ones.
About tie rod,do you mean the rack rod which comes out from kangi or you wanted to ask about tie rod ENDS?there are other balance rod ends also,which one you want to replace?
Rack rod can be seen on post number 78 at https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-4
About detailing engine depends on which state you would be happy,if you want waterless engine cleaning that will be okay with kangroo's engine cleaner worth some thing 400 to 500 pkrs it is aerosol spray,turtle's engine cleaner about same price but this one is spray bottle these are good for initial service if you want more better product then meguir's engine cleaner is available at cost of about 1500 to 1800 on dubai autos kashmir road rwp or on dubai racing I 8 markaz or shahid autos F10 markaz islamabad.some details can be seen here https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-5 & https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-8
If you want more precise detailing then buy turtle's presoak from dubai autos rawalpindi about 550/half litter and follow these steps https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-9

[car_bus2008]

Reference picture,the packing of bushes will be in green color,they are common all over.
Once the cv joint boot is torn,the axles having steel balls with in a steel mesh get dust into themselves and spoil.
Cost of bushes is 2k.
Cost of axles,depends upon your choice.

Skill bro i am talking about this dont know the exact name.But will you please tell me the price of this and thnx for all that writeup.

[Skill]

Skill bro i am talking about this dont know the exact name.But will you please tell me the price of this and thnx for all that writeup.

This is rack rod, cost you about 2500 if you go for joint fuji.

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[Borris]

Thanks for the help Skill.You're right, I don't want to replace the engine. I can go for the overall. I'll not let any mechanic know my budget to get this ride going

[Proverbial_Slang]

Overhauls are always a compromise due to the skill level of mechanics. Perform compression tests on a kabli engine, check for clean top, get a week's guarantee and do the swap. Keep the original wiring.

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[car_bus2008]

Thnx for help Skill bro i am nowadays too much busy for my papers so today i read the price thnx.

[Borris]

Overhauls are always a compromise due to the skill level of mechanics. Perform compression tests on a kabli engine, check for clean top, get a week's guarantee and do the swap. Keep the original wiring.

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Thanks for the help. How can compression test be done on the engine?

[Borris]

SKill if you don't mind I am pasting the quote from Suzuki 3S. The quote is hand written so some spellings might not be correct.

1. Wheel Bearing Front JP 2800 SGP 5400 What's JP? I know SGP might be Suzuki Genuine Parts.
2. Steering Tie Rod RackandSeb 4800 JP
3. Lower Armset 29000 SGP
4. Engine Sheild Lower RH 1400
5. Fender Liner LH 3450
6. Wheel Alignment 500
7. Wheel Balancing 650
8. Power Steering Pipe 6800
9. Axle Boot 425
10. Ac Belt 2865
11. Generator Belt 2650
12. Spark Plug 1060
13. Ignition Coil 18800
14. Tappet adjustment 3000
15. Air Filter 1370
16. Rear Engine Mounting 4250
17. Hose Pipe 370
18. 2 Rear Shock 31800
19. Tappet Cover Jaib Washer 1750+800
20. Brake Service 400
21. Disc Pads 6000

Total for Parts is about 121 090

My family is unwilling to spend this much money on this car and they are shocked that someone could sell such car with so many things needing replacement. They are trying their best to persuade the seller to take it back.

I on other hand think that this car can be fixed and can be road worthy. Its body and interior is of good condition.

This car has direct radiator fan and it heats up. What's the reason for that? How can I get it fixed. When 3s were asked they told me to swap the engine.

Labor total was quoted at 6800

What are your thoughts on this?

Many thanks for the help.

[Skill]

SKill if you don't mind I am pasting the quote from Suzuki 3S. The quote is hand written so some spellings might not be correct.

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[*]Wheel Bearing Front JP 2800 SGP 5400 What's JP?I know SGP might be Suzuki Genuine Parts.jp means japanes parts buy kyk bearing of china's top quality will cost you some thing 650 rps and will long for good couple of years with out any tension.
[*]Steering Tie Rod RackandSeb 4800 Jp buy japanese joint fuji's rack rod in 1800 form open market.
[*]Lower Armset 29000 SGP No need to buy lower arms if they are not broken or welded just buy 4 bushes 2 each for every arm of japanese joint fuji in about 1800/4 and insist the mechanic to fix them on laith.reference picture post # 64 here https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/184886-rxi-revived-4
[*]Engine Sheild Lower RH 1400 do not install it its is just to avoid splash(splash guard),with out it air will be well circulating engine bay:)(note i am trying to cut your unnecessary expenses and with good and reliable parts and not only suggesting but having good experience with these parts in other cars as well)
[*]Fender Liner LH 3450 its upto you, buy this from suzuki or buy a taiwan made from open market in 800 but not cheaper than this,they will not sit in corners and will look ugly,i think taiwan made for 800 is good.
[*]Wheel Alignment 500 go for it.
[*]Wheel Balancing 650 go for it.
[*]Power Steering Pipe 6800 get this pipe dismantled and bring it bilal ganj,match a qabli one will max be for 1500.
[*]Axle Boot 425 go for it.
[*]Ac Belt 2865 get one from market of bendo brand for 500.
[*]Generator Belt 2650 get one from market of bando for 500.
[*]Spark Plug 1060 go for it.
[*]Ignition Coil 18800 buy chinese from open market for 4500 are good for couple of years.
[*]Tappet adjustment 3000 when your engine is about to overhaul then what is this for?
[*]Air Filter 1370 buy ''guard filter'' its good but change it regularly and early than normal interval in 250.
[*]Rear Engine Mounting 4250 buy from bilal ganj and get it match with older one in 800.
[*]Hose Pipe 370 go for it.
[*]2 Rear Shock 31800 get your own shocks repair with in 2000 do not buy qabli shock ever who knows they are repaired or not.
[*]Tappet Cover Jaib Washer 1750+800 go for it.
[*]Brake Service 400 go for it.
[*]Disc Pads 6000 go for it,those are the best.
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Total for Parts is about 121 090

My family is unwilling to spend this much money on this car and they are shocked that someone could sell such car with so many things needing replacement. They are trying their best to persuade the seller to take it back.3s walay baray barron k hosh urra daitay hain aik bar, lolz.

I on other hand think that this car can be fixed and can be road worthy. Its body and interior is of good condition.

This car has direct radiator fan and it heats up get it completely diagnosed from good workshop like garage master2 and get compression checked and cooling system also with proper gauge and try to make it back to automatic fan,install back thermostat valve first instead of going straight away to overhaul. What's the reason for that? How can I get it fixed. When 3s were asked they told me to swap the engine.

Labor total was quoted at 6800 if you want overhaul or swap you may rely on good 3s labour charges are ok

What are your thoughts on this?

Many thanks for the help.

Hope it helps.

[Skill]

All your 3s estimate becomes 127000 and what i suggest you is 27000 only and believe me car will be absolutely road fit .

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[iamadee]

totally agree with Amir bhai (@Skill)....
Whenever you'll go to a 3S and you'll feel like you own a Merc or a Beamer.....

[Borris]

Hope it helps.

Wow! That was really a lot of help. Many thanks for your time.

So, where is Garage Master 2?

and where do you recommend I buy these parts? I don't want to end up buying replicas of replicas.

About Ignition coil, are there two ignition coils or one? Will two cost 4500 from the open market?

[Borris]

About life of these replica parts; will they last as long as SGP? and work reliably as SGP? Thanks

[Skill]

Wow! That was really a lot of help. Many thanks for your time.

So, where is Garage Master 2?

and where do you recommend I buy these parts? I don't want to end up buying replicas of replicas.

About Ignition coil, are there two ignition coils or one? Will two cost 4500 from the open market?

About garage master 2,exact address,ask some lahore member like @jz,i have read some good reviews of them and wait,one more workshop which is magic motors Model town beside gourmet bakers does have the equipments.
Parts i mentioned are not replicas,these are A+ and works very good,tried them before.
coils are 2 in number for 4500.
Buy from green suzuki autos,montgomery road lahore.

[Skill]

[raging_ravin]

this car is getting better and better with time