Third Generation Toyota Vitz Guide

[anon35615524]

So should i use Engine Flush once and finally

Whether you use it or not, in both cases it does not matter much, however, if you use it, there can be some benefit (as it will drain out any of the previous oil; brand, grade, etc.), but no harm at all.

My ride came with 0w-20. Last time, I poured 5w-30, however, from next time, i.e. at 25K Kms, when I will be changing engine oil, IN SHA ALLAH, I plan on changing oil brand and grade and stick with it for some long period of time. Currently I have ZIC A+ 5w-20. So, at 25K Kms, I plan on using engine flush at least for once, switch to 5w-20 (or if I change my mind and go for any other brand and 0w-20), and then stick with it IN SHA ALLAH.

And then i plan to stick to same brand in future inshAllah.

[anon35615524]

Oil Filters [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] Bought from Ijaz (Or Ejaz) Autos, Kamran Market, Rawalpindi Saddar for Rs. 725 each.

Please check. I have already mentioned details above.

[anon35615524]

Please contact the companies through their contact nos. available on their official websites, and ask about biggest dealers, wholesalers, retailers, etc. in you locality, who deal with end-users and give some discounts too. They would very happily give details. Their oils will sell and businesses will run; what else would they need?

(I haven't experienced / felt the need to buy engine oil in bulk and at discount, from twin cities yet, so do not know about the details of markets and dealers here. However, if I will get some details, I will definitely share here. IN SHA ALLAH)

[anon35615524]

you keep mentioning to service the throttle body

Rightly said, but I have mentioned in my post:

"... Throttle body service / cleaning or just inspection (which ever applies)..."

If its inspected and found to be clean, then for sure and quite obvious, there is no need for its service. However, if there are issues, then definitely it needs service.

unnecessary chemicals into the engine isnt good

Rightly said, but throttle body cleaners by reputed brands are considered safe.

(I am an old school type guy, and personally, do not favor cleaning throttle body when it is attached with the system. IMHO, it must be properly removed and then thoroughly cleaned with the help of brush and cleaning material. After proper cleaning and when it has fully dried, it may be attached).

[anon35615524]

Rightly said, and regarding the technicalities, I totally agree, however, I still have few things in mind:

When I am about to start the engine and move the key to "ON" position (i.e. I am just about to start the engine), orange (or red) color temperature light for engine lights up, and immediately goes away after may be 1-2 seconds (It may be noted that I haven't started the engine yet).

That symbol goes away along with many other symbols, and blue color temperature light for engine lights up (again, I haven't started my car yet).

When I start the engine, blue light is there, i.e. engine is cold and / or has not attained its normal working temperature, and goes away after 5-7 minutes, when engine has attained its working temperature.

When I start the engine in the morning, I personally observe a pattern of change in engine sound in the first 30 or so seconds (may be ECU is playing its role and adjusting rpms / AFR). After that, engine sound is constant, but blue engine temperature light does not go away. I let the engine warm up for 2-3 minutes totally (mostly 2), and then start driving it. The blue light is still there. In total, after 5-7 minutes, the blue light goes away (of course I do not gun my ride, and drive with extremely light foot. My speed is almost ~10 kmph or even less).

My questions are:

1. Should we not give it at least a minute or 02 before starting driving it?
2. Does start driving the car just after starting it, not harm the engine?
3. Is it perfectly safe to start driving the car immediately after starting it up? when blue light is ON and engine is cold? (of course not driving it harshly)

[anon35615524]

I am only using normal, regular fuel in my ride, since start. AL HAM DU LILLAH, haven't faced any issues till day.

I plan on doing 2 experiments: driving by mixing both in some ratio(s), or driving on high octane throughout (I personally believe driving on high octane throughout doesn't bring any harm to the engine. Yes, it is costly, which is a major concern).

I will share the results here IN SHA ALLAH, and may be, if regular fuel costs me Rs. 5/Km (just as an example) and high Octane costs me Rs. 5.25/Km (just for reference), however, pick, power becomes superb in high octane, there is no knocking, etc. then I may permanently shift to High Octane.

But let me try and get the findings. Do not take anything as final.

[adnan.shaukat]

FYI: last time i filled Hi-Octance in Jan2019, it was 135 PKR/L whereas regular Petrol was 92, so using 100% Hi-Octane is not a good choice - of course you get better pick and fuel average but not worth of its price.

[anon35615524]

Of course I will do complete cost analysis before my final verdict

Rs. 5/Km and Rs. 5.25/Km make sense to me, however, if normal fuel costs me Rs. 5/Km and High Octane costs Rs. 7/km or above, then for sure, I will never opt for it.

[pwuser155009269518]

I want to switch from 5w30 to 0w20 how can i switch?

[pwuser155009269518]

In my case temperature is usually arround 0c. In the moring when i start my car temperature symbol is green. After almost 5 minutes it disappears.

[anon35615524]

temperature symbol is green. After almost 5 minutes it disappears.

Please check and confirm. It will be blue in color.

[anon35615524]

Very simple, just pour 0w-20 from next time.

In 0w-20; Total, Shell, ZIC and Caltex Chevron are available.

[pwuser155009269518]

Confirm it is always green at the start and than vanishes.

[pwuser155009269518]

Thats why want to switch towards 0w20 all brands have this grade. Plus quetta's temperature goes well below zero.

[aunabbas_90]

I changed it yesterday, have switched to LiquiMoly 5W-30 Will inshAllah share the experience and results here.
Element Air cleaner was clogged, replaced.
Air filter is genuine n okay so dint replace it.

[anon35615524]

Rightly said, and regarding the technicalities, I totally agree, however, I still have few things in mind: When I am about to start the engine and move the key to "ON" position (i.e. I am just about to start the engine), orange (or red) color temperature light for engine lights up, and immediately goes away after may be 1-2 seconds (It may be noted that I haven't started the engine yet). [image] That symbol goes away along with many other symbols, and blue color temperature light for engin…

I have made some corrections and changes in my post, and have included some pictures too.

I mentioned about green color. I just confirmed today, and is also evident in the pictures; there is no green color light for engine temperature. Only 02 colors are there; blue and orange (or red), and when engine is operating normally at normal working temperature and cooling system is working perfectly, there is neither blue light nor orange (or red light).

Please check the post above. May be, you could find the answer to your query.

[Djaymx]

Does start driving the car just after starting it, not harm the engine?
Is it perfectly safe to start driving the car immediately after starting it up? when blue light is ON and engine is cold? (of course not driving it harshly)

Blue light only means engine has not reached optimal op. temperature, modern engine oils make it possible to use the car right away (or after 10-30s as you may feel engine oil has circulated, give it slight revs to make sure) as the engine oil viscosity changes with temperature it is generally safe to drive when engine is cold. The only difference would be fuel burning efficiency on cold engine is quite low, and reaching optimal temperature takes 3-5 minutes esp in cold temperatures.
Cold ignition: The number of cold ignitions harm the engine a lot more, so some wear and tear is normal. Running engine Has sufficient oil pressure to perform preventive measures even on a cold engine, esp if you’re using fully synthetic exclusively you have nothing to worry about. Engines last a long time if they are kept running but cold ignitions, clogged cooling system, gummed up oil channels etc are the real killers. For newer cars esp there is nothing to worry about.

[anon35615524]

Rightly said and got it!

0w-20 is equally suitable and recommended oil grade for Toyota Vitz, by the OEM itself, and considering weather conditions of Quetta; no problem at all.

If 0w-20 can work perfectly in PKDM Honda Civic, BRV and even city (all brand new latest models, 2016-2017 and above), throughout the country, then for sure, 0w-20 can work perfectly in your ride too, especially considering cold temperatures of Quetta!

[anon35615524]

Last time I checked, Total Quartz 9000 Future series 0w-20 is only available in 4L packing (neither 3L, nor 1L)

Shell Helix Ultra 0w-20 is available in 3L packing (1L and 4L needs to be checked).

ZIC 0w-20 is available in all 1L, 3L and 4L packings.

Caltex Chevron is available in 1L and 4L packings (so 1L x 3 = 3L can work).

In this era of competition, I think, if you choose any of these 4, it would serve the purpose well (provided, engine oil is 100% genuine and original). Secondly, you get what you pay for!

Choose any of these, but then stick with it, and change oil after every 5K Kms. 700-750 Rs. Oil filter for Vitz doesn't last more than 5K Kms. So, do not drag the oil + filter more than 5K Kms.

I hope, it helps. Thank you.

[anon35615524]

have switched to LiquiMoly 5W-30

That's Good! But isn't it sort of semi-synthetic? Secondly, it may last 8-10K Kms, may be even more, but what about oil filter? It may not last more than 5K Kms?

Will inshAllah share the experience and results here.

For sure. Do share the results.