Tips and Tricks to invest in KSE

[spangle]

Engro is at its lowest rate . its the guranteed best tym for investing in Engro Corp. mark my words today rate is 98.80/- with in a 40days it will reach @ 109/-

[Xulfiqar]

How much you want to invest... Instead of investing in the property go for the car importing business.. There is more success ratio for earning money..

quite an iffy business but I think you can peddle any car easily in Pakistan because of our "sheep people" because the car is sold as is where is no matter is its sick or dead.

Personally speaking a good investment is one which you can actually gauge the movement of your money, the mentality of simple P/L in our culture has destroyed many sectors due to small time peddlers. In a business you should know more than 270 ways to carve your way from A to B and onwards.

If you only know of one or a handful then stay away from such business, your chances of losing your shirt are high, unless you want to have a little 2no. in your practice, which I highly disagree with, If I can make honest money to eat dalchawal and live in a regular house then Im happy, I will prefer organic growth over the years than steroidal growth.

[BackToCivicFaiez]

Engro is at its lowest rate . its the guranteed best tym for investing in Engro Corp. mark my words today rate is 98.80/- with in a 40days it will reach @ 109/-

I have noted this down. Lets see.

And tell me one thing, before investing , is avg price vs current price the only thing people consider before investing...?

What if the price falls down further? Maybe you're not aware of whats causing this fall in price...Maybe there's a solid reason behind this fall of share price. And maybe the fall will continue...?

Is this just tukka investing? You just assume that the price will go down and come back up again after some time? And also, is it just self fulfilling expectation? I think short selling damages long term goals of a listed company, what do you think?

Unbock 2C

[rashid81]

Im so happy to see Stock Market related topic on Pakwheels this is another signal of long term downfall for us :P. I hv seen in 2005 & 2008 crash that whenever everybody especially "Janta" takes some intrest in KSE as they hear "Laooooooooo Maaaaaaaal" "Laooooooo Maaaaaaal" everywhr. What we need is some fresh blood in KSE so that we can bleed them. I suggest u guys to visit www.pakinvestorsguide.com before investing.

I also request mods not to delete the site link as we are running this site just to guide peoples with no profit no loss bases.

[BackToCivicFaiez]

Good website....

Unbock 2C

[tiptop]

I would advise all that if you are new in Stock business never invest more then Rs. 50k for first few years as you have 95% chance of losing your money. However, after some years when you know the trick of the trade, then increase your investment gradually.
The mutual funds are far better then direct trade by newbies and small investors. I have found UBL Fund Managers good for investments as they have a variety of funds to suit everyone's needs. (and their service is good)

[BackToCivicFaiez]

I would advise all that if you are new in Stock business never invest more then Rs. 50k for first few years as you have 95% chance of losing your money. However, after some years when you know the trick of the trade, then increase your investment gradually.
The mutual funds are far better then direct trade by newbies and small investors. I have found UBL Fund Managers good for investments as they have a variety of funds to suit everyone's needs. (and their service is good)

but they loose money most of the time...and you dont really get to know exactly where they are investing..?

Unbock 2C

[imrankarim]

I have noted this down. Lets see.

And tell me one thing, before investing , is avg price vs current price the only thing people consider before investing...?

What if the price falls down further? Maybe you're not aware of whats causing this fall in price...Maybe there's a solid reason behind this fall of share price. And maybe the fall will continue...?

Is this just tukka investing? You just assume that the price will go down and come back up again after some time? And also, is it just self fulfilling expectation? I think short selling damages long term goals of a listed company, what do you think?

The main cause for the engro coming down is urea prices and govt hav imported the urea.. and its production is stoped due to gas disconnection...

Wait till its price will reach 96..Infact the actual price for engro share is Rs 86.. Its share price will increase again...

[imrankarim]

quite an iffy business but I think you can peddle any car easily in Pakistan because of our "sheep people" because the car is sold as is where is no matter is its sick or dead.

Personally speaking a good investment is one which you can actually gauge the movement of your money, the mentality of simple P/L in our culture has destroyed many sectors due to small time peddlers. In a business you should know more than 270 ways to carve your way from A to B and onwards.

If you only know of one or a handful then stay away from such business, your chances of losing your shirt are high, unless you want to have a little 2no. in your practice, which I highly disagree with, If I can make honest money to eat dalchawal and live in a regular house then Im happy, I will prefer organic growth over the years than steroidal growth.

I agree with you brother but the point is to earn money...There are many people who have find out 270 ways of the business.. Its better to learn from them and keep on moving instead of making your own ways...

Simple one thing...if i buy a buss here in Pakistan and start my own transportation bussines... The big people out there wil not let me successfull.. if would be better if i join any of these big group... I have to pay them a little and than.. i have no obstacles in earning... Try flowing with stream ..instead of making your own way...

In pakistan there are many oppurtunites.. to earn and make money.. stock market.. land... car.. UPS... whear stock...rice stock...

[Xulfiqar]

I agree with you brother but the point is to earn money...There are many people who have find out 270 ways of the business.. Its better to learn from them and keep on moving instead of making your own ways...

Simple one thing...if i buy a buss here in Pakistan and start my own transportation bussines... The big people out there wil not let me successfull.. if would be better if i join any of these big group... I have to pay them a little and than.. i have no obstacles in earning... Try flowing with stream ..instead of making your own way...

In pakistan there are many oppurtunites.. to earn and make money.. stock market.. land... car.. UPS... whear stock...rice stock...

The problem I usually see in Pakistani business is that everyone assumes that business means general book keeping and moving "maal" or cutting costs on every head, specially HR <---- this is not always the best path. I can quote you examples of general purchases in any company - they choose the cheapest supplier with no study into quality and EOL of the equipment being purchased.

Your point of going with the flow would be good when the flow is known to be good and clean. Tell me a business in Pakistan which you can call clean. You can make your correct and clean path within the flow if you want. It is possible, just takes some patience and determination. Your statement of using other peoples experiences is 100% dead on accurate. That is how you build a proper design. If you have grasped this point correctly and know for sure that you are a little above than the rest of similar businesses then you can win.

lets take for example a medium sized general lube/oil distribution business in Pakistan, 90% of them are "naukri paal rahe hain" according to a business relative of mine, they do not have in depth knowledge of lube properties and applications which they could use to expand their customer base.

In all simplicity a good trade is one which one can completely grasp, and the acid test comes in when the SHTF, thats what separates the men from the boys.

[rashid81]

Sab kidher gone???? Investment tu nahe kar di kisi nay

[imrankarim]

Sab kidher gone???? Investment tu nahe kar di kisi nay

lol....investment ki hi.. tu idhar baatain kar rahy hain.. i guess... stock market walay.. yehan kaam hian....

[BackToCivicFaiez]

The main cause for the engro coming down is urea prices and govt hav imported the urea.. and its production is stoped due to gas disconnection...

Wait till its price will reach 96..Infact the actual price for engro share is Rs 86.. Its share price will increase again...

u and spangle were right. its at 108rs right now...

now tell me how to invest:P? do i physically go to karachi stock exchange? or is it done online? if online, then how? and minimum investment how much? and which company/bank/broker you use?

Unblock 2c

[rashid81]

u and spangle were right. its at 108rs right now...

now tell me how to invest:P? do i physically go to karachi stock exchange? or is it done online? if online, then how? and minimum investment how much? and which company/bank/broker you use?

Wait. Let the election year pass...

[imrankarim]

u and spangle were right. its at 108rs right now...

now tell me how to invest:P? do i physically go to karachi stock exchange? or is it done online? if online, then how? and minimum investment how much? and which company/bank/broker you use?

Unblock 2c

You have to open a bank account first.. Than you have to go to the brokage house, for the account opening... right now comission slab for KASB is very low, soon i will be trading with them.. There are many others as well.. like BMA, invest cap.....

When the account will be opened.. They will give you an online termianl from where you can trade.. Account can be opening vary from brokage house to other.. Some open even at 10k, some open at 25k and some open at 300k...

One thing if you want to come into this business..make your self a risk taker and have strength to hold the stress on mind... If you have bought almost 1 lac share of any company and just 0.50 rs par share down.. This means u totally have a loss of 50,000 Rs.... In one day you can earn millions and on the same day you can have a loss of billions.

If you entering for the sake of fun...than first learn it by studying the market trends.. how the share moves upwrard... when there is a buy call and when there should be a sell call...spare your time and than move in.. or you can read the researches done by the different brokages house.. investorguide360.com you can visit here... pakinvestorguide is a good forum you can learn many things from there as well...

First try to learn the market trends than get in the market.. Many people came in this.. made money and go... and few people bear too much losses that in the end they were with the hear attacks.. or depression...

But the business is where you get profit and loss as well...Best of luck if you also want to be in the pool..

[BackToCivicFaiez]

You have to open a bank account first.. Than you have to go to the brokage house, for the account opening... right now comission slab for KASB is very low, soon i will be trading with them.. There are many others as well.. like BMA, invest cap.....

When the account will be opened.. They will give you an online termianl from where you can trade.. Account can be opening vary from brokage house to other.. Some open even at 10k, some open at 25k and some open at 300k...

One thing if you want to come into this business..make your self a risk taker and have strength to hold the stress on mind... If you have bought almost 1 lac share of any company and just 0.50 rs par share down.. This means u totally have a loss of 50,000 Rs.... In one day you can earn millions and on the same day you can have a loss of billions.

If you entering for the sake of fun...than first learn it by studying the market trends.. how the share moves upwrard... when there is a buy call and when there should be a sell call...spare your time and than move in.. or you can read the researches done by the different brokages house.. investorguide360.com you can visit here... pakinvestorguide is a good forum you can learn many things from there as well...

First try to learn the market trends than get in the market.. Many people came in this.. made money and go... and few people bear too much losses that in the end they were with the hear attacks.. or depression...

But the business is where you get profit and loss as well...Best of luck if you also want to be in the pool..

how much is minimum for KASB? what documents are needed? and do they offer leverage as well?

[nido807]

You have to open a bank account first.. Than you have to go to the brokage house, for the account opening... right now comission slab for KASB is very low, soon i will be trading with them.. There are many others as well.. like BMA, invest cap.....

When the account will be opened.. They will give you an online termianl from where you can trade.. Account can be opening vary from brokage house to other.. Some open even at 10k, some open at 25k and some open at 300k...

One thing if you want to come into this business..make your self a risk taker and have strength to hold the stress on mind... If you have bought almost 1 lac share of any company and just 0.50 rs par share down.. This means u totally have a loss of 50,000 Rs.... In one day you can earn millions and on the same day you can have a loss of billions.

If you entering for the sake of fun...than first learn it by studying the market trends.. how the share moves upwrard... when there is a buy call and when there should be a sell call...spare your time and than move in.. or you can read the researches done by the different brokages house.. investorguide360.com you can visit here... pakinvestorguide is a good forum you can learn many things from there as well...

First try to learn the market trends than get in the market.. Many people came in this.. made money and go... and few people bear too much losses that in the end they were with the hear attacks.. or depression...

But the business is where you get profit and loss as well...Best of luck if you also want to be in the pool..

bro is the procedure same if we want to do it frm isb?

[imrankarim]

how much is minimum for KASB? what documents are needed? and do they offer leverage as well?

They charge 0.03 for shares less than 100 Rs.. and 0,06 for share value greater than 100..No document is requried.. just attested copies of NIC thats all.. They will give you a form, it need to be attested by the Bank manager that you have account there....

I would suggest you to open the account with KASB bank because. If you request for the cash.. The KASB sercurites will give you check after 2 days than you will deposit it in your account and that amount will be available in your account 2 days.. means almost 5 days.. are required if you have an other bank account.. If you open in the KASB bank amount will be avialable to you after 2 days.

[imrankarim]

bro is the procedure same if we want to do it frm isb?

Yes, its the same procedure every where.. kasb securities in Blue area, BMA and invest cap are also in blue area..

You just need to go there.. they will give you a form, attest it from the bank and 2 attested NIC copies thats all you are required,

[BackToCivicFaiez]

They charge 0.03 for shares less than 100 Rs.. and 0,06 for share value greater than 100..No document is requried.. just attested copies of NIC thats all.. They will give you a form, it need to be attested by the Bank manager that you have account there....

I would suggest you to open the account with KASB bank because. If you request for the cash.. The KASB sercurites will give you check after 2 days than you will deposit it in your account and that amount will be available in your account 2 days.. means almost 5 days.. are required if you have an other bank account.. If you open in the KASB bank amount will be avialable to you after 2 days.

the account holder's presence is also required ?