Tips for Baleno

[xenerking]

bro, is the power steering pump making weird sounds? what is condition of power steering fluid, cherry red means that system is in good condition, however if it is of brownish color having burnt smell, foaming alot, then there is something wrong. maybe there is a leak and air is mixed with PS fluid, you can try take the air out by opening the PS fluid cover and turning steering end to end couple of times so let escape any air in system.

also try replacing the PS fluid, i had good experience with caltex PS fluid for over years in baleno, it has specifically mentioned on it as PS fluid so i choose it over other saying Auto Tranny fluids.

PS pump is of Asin, which is almost bulletproof.

however you can find it in junkyard, 1500-1800 per piece,

my advice is bring at least 03 pieces for testing from your trusted vendor, if Lahore you can visit shakeel autos (township), they will arrange you with that, off course with some premium amount.

also spare some time for replacement, test the pumps by driving after bleeding air properly and if it works for 2-3 hours continuously then i think it will serve you afterwards inshAllah.

[ahmed_pak]

dear thanks for your reply, there is no sound in steering pump and the fluid color is cherry red, the problem is when give accelator steering is soft if drop the accelator steering is hard, mechanic suggest to change the power motor. I am in Karachi and i dont know the cost of that pump and where will buy. Do u have any recommended pls let me know.

[xenerking]

dear i am not familiar with Karachi Markets, please do check the belt tension, if loose then please tighten it, there is a wire connected to sensor on it, please check its connectivity, also check the wheels alignment, how about tire size, is it stock? if you have put over sized tires, then there are chances that new pump will also fail.

[ahmed_pak]

Can u suggest actual size of tyre for baleno 2004

[xenerking]

i think it was 165/70/R13 but you can put 185/65/R14

Baleno 1.6 Gti has OEM size 185/65/R14

[Ch.majid]

175/70R 13 for jxr 1.3

[pwuser150624629966]

My Baleno 2004 have a map sensor problem , it is not going well on petrol, the pick is very low. i changed the spark plus , cleaned the trottle as well as the injectors but of no use ,now the mechanic sqys that its map sensor should be changed. Which sensor should i go for any idea , & how much will it cost.the one which my car have i m attaching the picture

. please advise. Thanks in advance

[abid110]

if there is not check engine light then this sensor is working fine. how is your car on CNG? are you sure your engine is not weak? check your ignition coils and spark plug wires - they could be weak too.

[pwuser150624629966]

Car is very good on cng , have a great pick. But on petrol the car power drops,. I've checked each and every thing ,. But the only thing left is this map sensor .

[aliaamar1101]

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[abid110]

check your Emulator wiring going to injectors. and the injectors themselves too. if its good on cng, lets rule out issues of coil and plug wires.

[abid110]

why shift to petrol when one saves over 40% on fuel costs on running cng?

[aliaamar1101]

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[abid110]

bhai, lets put it in Math - i fill 500 rupees CNG in my Baleno and it returns me over 120KM in city drive of karachi. now, for 120KM run on petrol, i will need atleast 13-14Liter of petrol - the cost/liter is say 88 rupees - and for the same 120KM journey i will be filling petrol worth 1200 rupees means each 3 day run, i save 500 rupees (roughly). in a year, i save over 50k worth of fuel costs. since my car is a 2004 model with sealed engine still, so in these 13 years of CNG running, the car has saved Rs. 650,000/- worth of fuel costs. and lets say the car needs an engine overhaul now (which is NOT needed at all) it will cost max 35 thousand rupees with all japanese new parts - so what do you say - am i gaining or losing?

bhai, i am not talking about JDM/Hybrid cars, but almost all Paki assembled cars can easily run on cng with no issues. yes the issue can be of cng availability in some cities but overall its very practical and pocket friendly. i cannot do further maths to clear it out

[aliaamar1101]

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[pwuser150624629966]

All checked. Wiring, coils, fuel injectors but still issue remained the same. I've also changed the sparkplugs a month ago , but still the problem remain the same. Now the last thing left is the map sensor , i hope soo that the issue may get solved after that , because I've tried almost every thing. I repeat the car is running excellent at CNG , this problem is only on petrol. I'm facing this problem from last 2-3 months.

[cracked]

ok so if your car required 13-14 liters of petrol to cover 120 KMs distance, then your car is seriously out of tune. baleno can return atleast 12-13 kms within city driving. so a properly kept petrol driven car will consume about 9-10 liters of petrol for 120 kms. so 10*88= 880. so basically you saved 380 RS. (provided you get 120 kms in 500 worth of CNG). lets now come to the other side. everyone knows CNG makes the car run less efficiently. cars were designed to be driven on petrol, not CNG. every car that runs in Pakistan has engine which wasnt made locally so its a wrong deliberation that pak assembled car can easily run on CNG with no issues. plus CNG-ed car require more frequent maintenance than petrol driven. the cost you put in maintenance needs to be included as well. ..

[saboor73]

Any history of some cng tuner playing with throttle body screw to set idle rpm?

[abid110]

jdm cars which claims to give 16-17km per liter actually give 13 or so in karachi traffic. a car like baleno can not give 12/13 at any cost. no matter what you do to it and how good you tune it. even if i assume 12/liter on petrol (which is just insane) then a 10liter fuel is needed which is 880 rupees. instead cng gives same kms in 500 rupees. so still there is hell lot of difference. and what maintenance you mean is extra for cng? maybe valves give up early or what? that cost i already included in my calc. that if i saved 650,000 on running on cng in fuel costs, why not i spend 40k to overhaul engine with all new parts and still saving 6lac rupees net i 13years? bhai, paki made most cars came with ff cng! and you agree or not, cars like margalla, cultus, baleno are so good on cng that almost all cars are on cng since their birth. by any means you cannot dump the calculations i have given above. and in the end its marzi of the owner to run his fx on hi-octane or mercedes on cng but facts are facts

[RehanBhatti]

@saboor73
Bro, great question you raised up. How to adjust that screw if some idiot mechanic already fiddled with it??