Toyota Corolla Cross, Fanclub, Owners, Discussion Thread

[mgalaxy3]

Nothing that shows Toyota is not a leader and their hybrid tech is the best plus most reliable.

BYD and other Chinese stuff still has a long way to go.

Just doing one contract for business and economy reasons does not suddenly mean Toyotas hybrid tech is not the best.

[ifadey]

So you are saying Toyota relying on BYD's hybrid and EV tech to compete in a tough market like China proves nothing?

[daniyalcars72]

its still is the most reliable and succesful on the market i mean look at the prius it lasts a decade on its original batteries without any issue or until you pass the 150k km mark name another company who makes hybrids as reliable and dependable as this?

[daniyalcars72]

buddy dont be so overexpecting this is pakistan name one other company in local made market which doesnt strip their cars of features(honda being on top)..and speaking of which what more features do you want ? the car has 7 airbags,apple car play,parking sensors etc looks like you have set the bar to high as other then space its a good buy ..your ch r is a jdm compare it with other jdms to see how it fairs ..haval is nice but lacks the trust that the toyota badge has plus spare parts etc,not to mention the long term reliability which is a question with the chinese crossover suvs.

[farrukh.xxe]

speaking of which what more features do you want ? the car has 7 airbags,apple car play,parking sensors etc

Jeez, setting the bar that low?
They may be the pioneer in reliability but damn are they boring to drive, unlike H6 and Jolion which is a main point people overlook and just think that features are the only thing the Chinese provide.
Also, even a Swift has six airbags, car play is found on virtually every Haval and parking sensors are not only more annoying but less useful than the 360 degree camera.
And Haval is assembled local fyi, company owned by a friend of mine supplies the wire harnesses for them, and also, do people actually consider Honda anymore?

[OgRe1985]

YES people do consider Honda. City was the most selling sedan in May 2024 with 850+ units.

Toyota is selling more corolla cross than the entire sales of Haval.
Pakwheel pe hi sirf china maal bikta aur bechatay be woh loog jin ka apnay ghar toyota honda khari hoti

[pwuser155178203819]

Buddy, Toyota's decision to use BYD’s Plug-in Hybrid DM-i Platform for launching PHEVs in China isn't a reflection of any deficiencies in their own hybrid technology. Instead, it’s a strategic move to enhance market penetration and cater to the specific demands of the Chinese market.

[pwuser155178203819]

It's not called relying, if Toyota adopts the same practice globally then you can say that. If countries with the biggest population have a specific market demand and potentially a huge business volume, every brand caters to that. Using the existing infrastructure is easier than transformation.

[pwuser167550015690]

Toyota is selling more corolla cross than the entire sales of Haval.

I'm not sure if you're paying attention to the sales figures reported each month but here are the official sales figures from PAMA since Corolla Cross launched in December 2023.

Note: These figures are combined sales because Toyota IMC only reports Combined sales of Yaris, Corolla and Corolla Cross, while Sazgar only reports Combined sales of H6 and Jolion.

• January 2024
  • Toyota - 2,143 Sold
  • Haval - 966 Sold
• February 2024
  • Toyota - 1,759 Sold
  • Haval - 407 Sold
• March 2024
  • Toyota - 1,547 Sold
  • Haval - 503 Sold
• April 2024
  • Toyota - 1,722 Sold
  • Haval - 544 Sold
• May 2024
  • Toyota - 1,562 Sold
  • Haval - 779 Sold

And if it's not clear, these figures include the sales of the entire Yaris and Corolla sedan lines. So unless you're saying both of them have almost no sales, then it doesn't seem like the Corolla Cross is significantly outselling the Haval line even comparing month on month, and the growth trend is clearly visible on the Haval side.

Now, again I drive a Toyota hybrid, but I have no loyalty to any make or brand and will simply choose whoever offers me the best product and value for my money. And looking at these figures, it seems like more and more people are putting their trust in Haval as well.

[pwuser167550015690]

Yeah so by this logic, if most high-end restaurants start serving feces in their plates, you should just shut up and eat it? I would rather go to a place that might not be as fancy but at least serves actual food.

The features you listed like 7 airbags, and parking sensors etc. are bare minimums that should be offered in a vehicle in 2024. If you're settling for anything less than that, then you do not value your hard earned money.

If IMC can't ship a product that can even compete with a 7 year old JDM (let alone beat it), then why should I be giving my money to IMC, when there are others in the same market who are offering much more than that?

[daniyalcars72]

nope but you should at least be sane enough and not be so entitled that you start complaining without seeing the reality on ground. At this price tag if we see honda ,Toyota, Suzuki
..toyota still is still being generous to not strip the car of its features as much as the others..the chinese and koreans have to give more features to survive as they lack the market value and brand reliability of toyota if they also dont give full features then goodbye for them. To survive they have to give their best whereas Toyota or somewhat Honda know that they have the edge of resale value ,reliability factor so they get away with not giving one or two features...
if the features of cross are less to you then looks like you havent seen the honda rs which is around the same price complete joke it is then ..you are comparing a jdm to a local assembled car ..jdm always have better build and features then local made cars no doubt but they lack the dealership support and parts availability plus majority meter reversed so not a fair comparison. You are deluded if you think anyone is settling for less just see the sales figures of cross and it tells the story..the car has good features and hybrid being its main attracton.

Yeah so by this logic, if most high-end restaurants start serving feces in their plates, you should just shut up and eat it? I would rather go to a place that might not be as fancy but at least serves actual food.

[pwuser167550015690]

Asking for basic features is being entitled? I wonder when will our countrymen escape this colonial mindset of just quietly accepting what's being given to us.

And going by the sales figures, Corolla Cross seemingly only has a marginal lead over the HAVAL lineup based on this report I found. I couldn't find the source since the PAMA numbers I have access to from their website don't break out sales of Corolla, Yaris and Corolla Cross separately.

Corolla Cross was mostly stagnant month over month and managed to sell only 25 units more than the HAVAL lineup, which saw an increase of 43%. I expect Haval's numbers to go back down next month, but by the end of the year, we should have a much better idea of how big of a market was it able to carve out.

[zee5han]

Hi Mamoon , hows the paint quality of the rims that you got painted after this time?
I am planning to get mine painted black do you still recommend this guy faizan?

[bridgedoctorali]

Haval has yet to pass the test of time. Loyalty to brand is only because of.: reliability, low cost of maintenance, resale etc. 80% of 20 yrs old Toyota are still on road. I'm car manufacturing Toyota is the No.1 car seller (ref Forbes).

[OgRe1985]

HAVAL ka MG wala haal hunay wala hai...i saw a post on facebook of engine fail of Jolion after just 800KM. Company said its because of bad fuel and now the Company is recommending 50 percent High Octane while refueling

[jklodhi]

Is craze.of cross ovwr now?

This.forum.is dead

[saad0irfan]

Had went to Toyota dealership for maintenance of a Hilux and got the chance to see cross up close.

It's good built quality is nice and it ain't really that congested, but that's it! Even the guy who was showing us the display cars said the cross isn't recieving the expected response.

The head of the dealership said that last month, a total of only 7 cars were invoiced and the month before that, only 5 cars.

Maybe because nobody's buying from Toyota or most probably the market is "down".

[ifadey]

I think the major reason for this is competition. Previously people don't had option to buy anything else other than vehicles from big 3. The buyers are limited due to less purchasing power and they are distributed among different brands.

[daniyalcars72]

so 900 plus units sales isnt the expected response in these economic conditions? just see how the other companies are performing ..honda is facing poor sales of hrv and civic xi and recently they are offering wireless charging in civic for optional 55k extra still even suneel has said he wont expect the sales to increase after this optional addition to civic which may have been given after strong competition from rivals ..only city is selling of honda ..right now all company whether korean or chinese are facing a downtrend in sales

[dms664]

regarding Suzuki, Kizashi and Ciaz both flopped

Add liana as well